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    Visit the Episode GuideATLANTIS SEASON THREE
    VENGEANCE
    EPISODE NUMBER - 319

    The Atlantis team investigates the disappearance of one of their allies, only to find an old enemy engineering a race of powerful monsters.

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    Hm the Episode was pretty much like I expected.

    Spoiler:
    Michael doing genetic iratus experiments on his own which is causing problems

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    Interesting episode...

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    I can't believe next week is the Atlantis finale & SG-1 will be half way done next week. Life will suck when both Stargate shows finish their seasons & next year will suck even more with only 1 Stargate show

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    So what happened?

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    Nearfantastica had posted the plot in a thread about Vengeance. Just going to quote....

    Quote Originally Posted by Nearfantastica View Post
    Carson was not mentioned in the ep, for the person that wanted to know.

    Spoiler:
    The team gates to a planet that is refuge to the civilization in season 2 that escaped the giant volcano. That society has been out of contact with Atlantis, and the team go to check it out. When they arrive, they discover that everyone is dead, and there is one life sign on the detector. They follow it into an underground cavern similiar to the Genii fortresses. Once there, they encounter a lab where it appears someone has been doing experiments with Iratus bugs and humans. The team is then attatcked by a giant alien Iratus/Human hybrid that looks like a giant blue cockroach with the same teeth as a Predator (re: Predator movies).
    It turns out that Michael has been doing experiments trying to build an army of super bugs, since he's no longer welcome among the Wraith. There are hundreds of super bugs on the planet, and the team must fight to get out of the stronghold. Michael has taken the control crystal from the DHD.
    There is a scene in the underground between Sheppard and Michael where Sheppard tells Michael he doesn't have a problem killing him. Michael lowers his weapon and steps closer to Shep, stating: "I don't mind dying. Because I know you and your team will never escape."

    In the end, Sheppard commandeers Michael's Wraith Dart, scoops up Rodney, Ronon and Teyla, and uses the dart's DHD to get them home.

    In the end, they ask Caldwell (who does not make an onscreen appearance) to go and check out the planet, but Michael has disappeared, along with the hundreds of super bugs. All and all, it was a slightly creepy episode with an "Alien" feel. Sheppard even references the film.

    The opening sequence is a gym scene between Rodney and Ronon with Ronon "teaching" Rodney how to fight. Rodney is wearing Karate gear almost exactly like what David Hewlett is wearing the the Dog's Breakfast Trailer. It was very cute. Silly without being another worn out "Rodney in place for humor" scene.


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    Not seen it personally but looks very interesting, can't wait to see it!


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    Sounds very interesting

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    Yeah, but I am a bit afraid that
    Spoiler:
    Michael gets a kind of "Ford Nr.2". I want Michael dead or recurring, but not this kind of "He is out there"-Character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SGFerrit View Post
    So what happened?
    Nearfantastica made a detailed-enough run down of the ep here:
    http://forum.gateworld.net/showthrea...10#post6262610
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    One of the better episodes of the season imo. I guess the 'Zombies' (they kinda looked like the zombies from Half Life 2 imo) are gonna be the Atlantis version of the Super Soldiers in s4. Though slightly odd how they suddenly turned from 'extremely hard to kill' at the start of the episode, to Ronan picking them off with single shots on the run lol... :s Michael will probably be a fairly large antagonist in season 4 too, by the looks of it. They seem to be setting him up as a renegade Wraith who will be an enemy of both the Wraith and Atlantis.

    Also, I think Team Shep needs a refresher course in military tactics.... All this wandering off by themselves, splitting up and going solo when facing an unknown number of hostiles, splitting up and going solo when their communications were jammed...., chattering away like no tomorrow when 'tracking' a bogey - in tunnels none the less (sound carries a long, long way in a tunnel...). I know Sheppard is the only US military officer on the team, but that's what training is for... Ronan and Teyla should be both adequately versed in US military tactics by now.

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    No mention of Carson, in a story relating to his character's main (if not only) arc?

    Submersion was forgiveable, but this isn't

    I won't be watching this one either.

    Part 2 coming very soon!! (this is a fic btw, not the Fandemonium novel)

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    Yeaaaaah. Not watching this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sueKay View Post
    No mention of Carson, in a story relating to his character's main (if not only) arc?

    Submersion was forgiveable, but this isn't

    I won't be watching this one either.
    what a crappy way of deciding what you do and don't watch.
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    P90, it's a disgrace and a disservice to the show's best character. The least they could do is say his name.

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    You are not going to watch the entire show until in an Episode somebody says something like "ohhhh remember Carson, wasnt he a poor guy..." ?????

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    I just watched it. Very good episode. One of the best.

    Hey, don't bother that nobody mention Carson. The situation was sooo screwed for the Atlantis team so they didn't have time to think about Carson.

    About the Vengeance

    - Michael looked very, VERY angry and who can blame him??
    - He also looked older. I wonder why. May be because of the experiments with the retro virus he can no longed feed in a right way?!
    - Rodney said that Michael is very smart. There was a guess that he has been a scientist before. One of the best.
    - For the first time the hive is mentioned as a family.
    - There were some Alien like creatures.
    - Michael said he is lonely and want to continue his life but not as a human.
    - I really felt sorrow when I was watching Michael in this episode. It seems the bad guy wasn't he but some other people with interesting sense of double standarts' morality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudeljaeger View Post
    You are not going to watch the entire show until in an Episode somebody says something like "ohhhh remember Carson, wasnt he a poor guy..." ?????

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    I understand what the complaints are. Carson was the focus of the "Michael" story arc and for Michael not to even mention him is strange, since Michael doesn't know he is gone. In fact, when I heard Carson was being written out, I assumed it would be by Michael's hand. It certainly would have been a better swan song than an exploding tumor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by female Wraith View Post
    - I really felt sorrow when I was watching Michael in this episode. It seems the bad guy wasn't he but some other people with interesting sense of double standarts' morality.
    i agree he was a randomn wraith that was part of a expertiumant that at the time there didn't think it would lead to this.

    this was a good epsiode glad to see connor again this has been a good arc with micheal. he did look differnt in this epsiode.......i was mad that ...again there didn't mention carson
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoolishPleasure View Post
    I understand what the complaints are. Carson was the focus of the "Michael" story arc and for Michael not to even mention him is strange, since Michael doesn't know he is gone. In fact, when I heard Carson was being written out, I assumed it would be by Michael's hand. It certainly would have been a better swan song than an exploding tumor.
    Hey I do not have problems with the complains, but with stop watching the show because of this. I mean, does SGA only consists of Carson? This Episode was obviously very interesting if you look at the other posts, so why miss this fun just because some stupid freaking sentence was missing where they cry after Carson...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudeljaeger View Post
    Hey I do not have problems with the complains, but with stop watching the show because of this. I mean, does SGA only consists of Carson? This Episode was obviously very interesting if you look at the other posts, so why miss this fun just because some stupid freaking sentence was missing where they cry after Carson...

    I think everyone's just talking about believabilty here. Not mentioning Carson in Submersion makes sense. They don't have to go all "BOO HOO" every time they go off-world, etc. But to bring back a story arc where Carson was a very integral part and not even mention him? That just doesn't make any sense.
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