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    If you were in charge of writing the next episode and could learn more about them, what would it be? I'd like to know more about this gift of life. Do they use it on humans they keep as companions to extend their lives? The possiblities with that alone are endless.
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    Hmm...an episode idea? I would have the team capture a VERY OLD Wraith worshipper who will tell them...stuff.

    Quote Originally Posted by female Wraith View Post
    LOL. I am not fighting with you Just participating in a discussion. We see only one side of the Wraith because we are at war with them. But I wonder how their worsippers see them? If Shepard wasn't captured by Colia should we know about the Gift of Life????
    As the Wraith in Common ground said: There is much about the Wraith that you don't know....
    Hehe, sorry about that. Gets very heated around here sometimes.

    And a big "Indeed" on that "there is much to know" stuff. It'll be nice to get some more info on the Wraith, that's for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laura the Asgard View Post
    If you were in charge of writing the next episode and could learn more about them, what would it be? I'd like to know more about this gift of life. Do they use it on humans they keep as companions to extend their lives? The possiblities with that alone are endless.
    If I did the Wraith episode I'd explain shipbuilding and reproduction in the same episode. They're both huge annoying issues that don't get addressed.

    The way I would have it work is with everything potentially begining from a single hivequeen.

    The first thing a queen would do when she reaches maturity, and assuming she needs to start from scratch like this, is seek out humans or other sentients to turn into Wraith. She does this by injecting them with some sort of venom or retrovirus from her hand suckers as opposed to sucking their life out.

    Wraith that are made this way are the "human male" type Wraith. They are psychically linked to the queen and following their transformation from human into Wraith they instictively fear, obey and respect her.

    The Wraith retrovirus carried by queens also will also mutate other living things into other types of "Wraith flora and fauna" other than more human type Wraith. A queen could infect a tree, for example, and turn it into some sort of biological machine. The virus would be attuned psychically to the queen allowing her to shape and mold whatever she infects into whatever type of form she requires (within reason).

    While the male workers she has made go out and gather prey the queen will start building a nest out of various corrupted local organisms. As the nest continues to grow the Wraith males will bring back more humans to be turned into additional Wraith. Eventually the nest will gain the ability to produce Wraith drones (noface guys) and the role of the male Wraith will change. The drones will now take over most hunting and gathering duties while the males assist the queen more directly in building and upgrading the nest. Eventually the nest will grow to produce darts, and soon after will consume most of the local biomass. When all biomass in the area is exhausted the nest, now a fully formed hiveship, will take flight, and eventually hyperspace flight, in search of new feeding grounds.

    The Wraith queen, once she gets older, will turn her attention toward creating herself a sucessor or subordinate queen. She will meticulously select a human female child she deems worthy and transform her into a Wraith the same way she did the males. This female will become a queen when she grows up. If rapid expansion is required or desired however the queen may make new queens much sooner, when she's making the first males, and out of older female children who are already near puberty. She will then dispatch them to distant areas to start new hives there.

    Young Wraithqueens might stay with the "mother" queen only until they feel confident enough to strike out on their own. The majority though will stay indefinately connected with their mother and form large extended families or "tribes/clans" with their own offspring mother and sisters. In my version all Wraith of a given tribe could be traced back to a single matriarch who spawned the entire bloodline 10,000 years ago in the manner described.

    The process described is how I would have a Wraith queen start from scratch if she had to. A queen who was created by another queen wouldn't have to actually go through any of that crap and msot modern Wraith would regard the whole process rather like humans might regard building a house yourself out of trees you chopped down. In most modern instances a mother queen would just grow her offspring a hiveship out of some biomass somewhere or lend her a bunch of drones and darts so she could quickly grow her own.

    Hive keepers would be Wraith queens who'd grown old enough and stopped reproducing offspring queens. They would instead focus their attention on caring for the needs of the tribe in general and deepening their understanding of their own ability to manipulate nature with the natural Wraith virus or through other more inventive means. In other words they'd be part scientist/inventor and part motherly/repected figure to other Wraith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laura the Asgard View Post
    If you were in charge of writing the next episode and could learn more about them, what would it be? I'd like to know more about this gift of life. Do they use it on humans they keep as companions to extend their lives? The possiblities with that alone are endless.
    Hmmm....In my imagination the Wraith are separated in different clans. Only some of the clans have worshippers.

    First of them don't have worshippers they prefered to rule like the Hive King in Sateda - cruel, with many victims and destroyed planets after rebeloin. May be only the hives like this one in Sateda have Runners.

    Other kind of Hives are more like the Hive in Season 2 with Queens who like to be like Goddesses in the eyes of the humans. They are runnuing very carefully their planets - one culling in 500 years with no more than 30% of population to be taken in one culling. I think that the Queen in Hive in Season 2 actually was going to feed upon enemy teritory - may be an ex possession some of the hives that were destroyed during the Siedge in Season 1. In her own teritory she acts in a different way - every human there is a worshipper and they live with the idea of sacrifice. I suspect that in the worshipper's planets all criminals and volunteers are collected and send as a gift to the Queen. May be they are put in statsis for the time when all members of the Hive will be awaken and because of this there are no mass culling in these worlds. Because if you collect all criminals and others for a long time you will be ready to face the Queen needs when she and other Wraiths are awakened. We saw in Defiant in Season 1 that the devices in supply ships could keep in good condition many humans for centuries.

    The Gift of Life is given only to the those who truely worshipped the Queen - she can understand when one is devoted to her and when is not. To keep the stability of the worlds she may be give the Gift and to those who are in the local governments and the priests who run the temples for worshipping the Queen.

    And one more idea..... I suspect that some of the Wraiths find humans attractive. The Queen in Hive obviously liked Shepard not only as a meal....And the girl Nira ....well....hmmm....she was in some kind of relationship with the male Wraith)))))) LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by PG15 View Post
    Hmm...an episode idea? I would have the team capture a VERY OLD Wraith worshipper who will tell them...stuff.



    Hehe, sorry about that. Gets very heated around here sometimes.

    And a big "Indeed" on that "there is much to know" stuff. It'll be nice to get some more info on the Wraith, that's for sure.
    I hope that in the next episode we shall learn more things for the Wraith

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    i hope that we get to see more of the wraith soon
    there was a interview with rachel luttrel on scifi world i think and she siad there is a episode at the end of season 3 with a wraith queen so maybe we will get to see more of the wraith in that episode

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    Quote Originally Posted by wriathlord View Post
    i hope that we get to see more of the wraith soon
    there was a interview with rachel luttrel on scifi world i think and she siad there is a episode at the end of season 3 with a wraith queen so maybe we will get to see more of the wraith in that episode
    Mmm? Could you give a link to read it?

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    here hope this works
    http://www.thescifiworld.net/intervi...uttrell_02.htm
    the bit about the wraith queen is near the end of the interview
    at the question where do you think the show will leave fans at the end of the season

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    Quote Originally Posted by wriathlord View Post
    here hope this works
    http://www.thescifiworld.net/intervi...uttrell_02.htm
    the bit about the wraith queen is near the end of the interview
    at the question where do you think the show will leave fans at the end of the season
    What news! So we shall see a Wraith Queen in an episode in the end of Season 3. I think that will be Vengeance but why she said it will be heavy Teyla' related? Hmmmm....I really want to see more Wraiths. Thanks for the link

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    well teyla has wraith dna in her so maybe it has something to do with that
    well i am off to see sg-1 200 so i will be back tomorrow

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    I'm not so sure about the Wraith Queen turning humans into Wraith thing-considering how Michael was treated-and since I got the impression that the Wraith were more like social insects such as ants or bees. I figured that a more human-like form of reproduction would be a good way to keep the population from exploding.

    But, we don't know yet.

    I'd love to see a Wraith Queen, especially if she was interested in working w/ Atlantis (perhaps for an alternate food source?) Guess what I wanted when I saw the article about Jewel Staite being in Season 4?

    Poor Michael: Atlantis seriously bit the hand that fed them on that one.

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    I'd like to see a wraith hive that coexists with a culture of human wraith-worshipers that is entirely devoted to feeding the wraith and see it as the ultimate expression of love for their gods as well as a potential path to spiritual immortality such that they actually compete for the honor of being eaten by high-ranking wraith.

    The wraith, it seems to me, want security. Their two main concerns are security from violence and food security. It is often a balancing act between the two because their food actively attempts to murder them in many cases.
    All of their actions have been in furtherance of these two goals, from the destruction of advanced human civilizations and the war with Atlantis to their attempts to reach Earth.
    If one could provide them with a secure food supply then peace is an option.
    Asgard cloning technology supplies the obvious answer. A properly equipped cloning factory could churn out enough mindless forced-grown clones to feed the entire wraith population and if they can only feed on conscious sentient humans then it is rather trivial with supplying a human mind to these clones, as well. If done correctly, all of the clones will even remember volunteering to be food.

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    Please feel free to count me into the ranks of The Wraith Defenders club- it is fabulous to see likeminded people who are on this thread. Hasn't it grown so fast in so few days...I wish this thread well for always.

    Have you ever noticed how polite a Wraith is when speaking to someone- how well spoken the Wraith can be?

    Tight from the first moment I saw my first Wraith, Steve, on Atlantis I fell in love with this spieces- their grace, their elegance and evident intelligance, with the way they move, speak and their whole way of being. It was Steve's dignity under hardship and duress in the face of captivity that impressed me.

    It is the only the food source that present's the problem and the fact they take the lifeforce of humans as food to feed their hunger. Hunger is horrible thousands of humans die every of hunger every year. In Japanese prisoner of war camps prisoners sometimes betrayed other prisoners to the authoritie
    s just so their children could eat- for as little as an egg and a jar of food stuff. The Wraith' need to eat is not evil, unfortunate but not evil, they having no other choice and yes they do seem to leave the humans to be free range and natural!.

    What was evil is what was done to Michael after he helped them so much. My friend who is native American says the way that the settlers once treated them reminds him how the Alanteans treat the Wraith- including viruses and genocide and firing on unarmed camps. He says what really defeated them was the destruction of the food source the buffalo- was hunger. He also mentioned that apache who worked with the army as scouts against their own people- suffered the same fate as Michael, stripped of their status and thrown in with the very people who they had gone against.

    Yeah I admit I find the Wraith very sexy and extremely beautiful with their long white hair and the way they dress in those long black leather coats. I love their feline eyes and deep vibrant voices. all those who know know Steve is my favourite, Although i do like Shawn, the Wraith from Condemned, and Gabriel from Common Ground. I'd be the first to volunteer for field research between compatilbilty Wraith and human!!!

    I also think the Wraith ships and Technology are fascinating- a ship that heals itself- everything about the Wraith is worth knowing and I want The Wraith to be the main enemy, perhaps ally for real in the future so we can learn so much more about this wonderfully fascinating Kind.

    The Wraith for ever and always!

    So count me in for the Wraith Defenders Club
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    Your demons without wings, we glide
    We are angels in black with a hunger
    Not your sheep to change or guide.
    We are angels in the blackness for ever

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    i agree with what you siad in your post kaeyla i find every aspect of the wraith to be fascinating and i hope we will get to see more of the wraith for years to come
    i find the wraith sexy as well i really like the wraith queens but i would like to see more of the keepers in future episodes

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    sorry forgot to mention that in the latest issue of the offical magazine of stargate there is a section on the wraith and if anybodys interested i can try and scan it in to my computer and post hear

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isil'zha View Post

    I'd love to see a Wraith Queen, especially if she was interested in working w/ Atlantis (perhaps for an alternate food source?) Guess what I wanted when I saw the article about Jewel Staite being in Season 4?

    Poor Michael: Atlantis seriously bit the hand that fed them on that one.
    There is something in every Wraith Queen that makes her irresistable. I don't know what is it ...

    LOL. Michael was so angry last time ...I think when he takes his revenge the feeding will be a salvation for the humans in Atlantis.

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    i think so to cant wait to see what happens in the episode vengence

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    Yes I hope Michael does come out alive intact and as a Wraith if Vengeance is the episode he is in- Hello WraithLord yes I got the copy of the Official stargate magazine with the Wraith it is fabulous.. all you Wraith folk out there make an investigation to it- only wished they would have a poster of a Wraith as well.

    REmember Let's keep the Wraith!
    We are angels of death in black leather
    Your demons without wings, we glide
    We are angels in black with a hunger
    Not your sheep to change or guide.
    We are angels in the blackness for ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by hyzmarca View Post
    I'd like to see a wraith hive that coexists with a culture of human wraith-worshipers that is entirely devoted to feeding the wraith and see it as the ultimate expression of love for their gods as well as a potential path to spiritual immortality such that they actually compete for the honor of being eaten by high-ranking wraith.

    The wraith, it seems to me, want security. Their two main concerns are security from violence and food security. It is often a balancing act between the two because their food actively attempts to murder them in many cases.
    All of their actions have been in furtherance of these two goals, from the destruction of advanced human civilizations and the war with Atlantis to their attempts to reach Earth.
    If one could provide them with a secure food supply then peace is an option.
    Asgard cloning technology supplies the obvious answer. A properly equipped cloning factory could churn out enough mindless forced-grown clones to feed the entire wraith population and if they can only feed on conscious sentient humans then it is rather trivial with supplying a human mind to these clones, as well. If done correctly, all of the clones will even remember volunteering to be food.
    Hmm..I don't think the Wraiths are affraid of violence they just want that action to be focus in the enemy not between them.
    Clonning...what about the clones? Even mindless they are humans with rights. I am not sure the clones have to provide the Wraith with food only because that is the wish of their progenitor. They are not criminals and from that point they didn't volunteer for anything. If one want to be a volunteer he must give his own life sourse ...giving clones is cheating. And I think that man/woman will be no longer recognize as a worshipper by the Wraiths.

    Welcome to the club


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    Please feel free to count me into the ranks of The Wraith Defenders club- it is fabulous to see likeminded people who are on this thread. Hasn't it grown so fast in so few days...I wish this thread well for always.
    Welcome)) This is the palce to share common ideas and thoughts about our favourite Wraiths I hope this thread will last for a VERY long time! And it will grow like a hiveship LOL

    Have you ever noticed how polite a Wraith is when speaking to someone- how well spoken the Wraith can be? Tight from the first moment I saw my first Wraith, Steve, on Atlantis I fell in love with this spieces- their grace, their elegance and evident intelligance, with the way they move, speak and their whole way of being. It was Steve's dignity under hardship and duress in the face of captivity that impressed me.

    To be polite is a mark of a high culture. Even when you are sucking the life out of humans or you are poisoned and agonizing you have to do in a proper manner I also noticed how the Wraith speak - with a good grammar and no slang. Always a pleasure to listen their English

    When I saw a Wraith the first thing that comes in mind was that he is intelligent and knows what he wants and knows how to gain it. And Steve ...he was very handsome and cool))) During the whole time he had a honor and dignity which I didn't notice in anyone else. His lost was a real waste. And for what? For a development of a "cure" against the Wraith...a cure that cost the life of the half of the Hoffin' people. I wonder how many were culled last time? I doubt the half of the population was being taken for food. And this time when the Wraith find that Hoffin's world is poisoned they will just kill ALL and repopulate with new people. So the ultimate goal - to be free from the Wraith - will not be gained. They made a suicide and the pity part of whole thing was they even didn't realise it.
    Of course when the damage had been done our brave Atlantis team just packed and left. Heroes We saw the same thing in Condemned.

    It is the only the food source that present's the problem and the fact they take the lifeforce of humans as food to feed their hunger. Hunger is horrible thousands of humans die every of hunger every year. In Japanese prisoner of war camps prisoners sometimes betrayed other prisoners to the authorities just so their children could eat- for as little as an egg and a jar of food stuff. The Wraith' need to eat is not evil, unfortunate but not evil, they having no other choice and yes they do seem to leave the humans to be free range and natural!.

    I read in a magazine that every year 15 MILLIONS died in Africa because of lack of water. And other millions dies every year from hunger and other things. Fact! In a world without Wraiths people died like we have a mass culling of a Wraith Armada. We all agree that the Wraith are not evil they do what they have to survive. And I am sure they could be far more worse - they can stop sleeping for long periods and begin an industial farming and clonnig of humans as we do with the chickens and cows. But they don't do it.

    What was evil is what was done to Michael after he helped them so much. My friend who is native American says the way that the settlers once treated them reminds him how the Alanteans treat the Wraith- including viruses and genocide and firing on unarmed camps. He says what really defeated them was the destruction of the food source the buffalo- was hunger. He also mentioned that apache who worked with the army as scouts against their own people- suffered the same fate as Michael, stripped of their status and thrown in with the very people who they had gone against.

    Yes, it looks the same way. But if there are survived native Americans/indians I don't think they - I mean Atlantis - will left any Wraiths alive even in the zoo. I was amazed when I watch what they did to Michael. That was a sick idea and left a bitter taste.

    Yeah I admit I find the Wraith very sexy and extremely beautiful with their long white hair and the way they dress in those long black leather coats. I love their feline eyes and deep vibrant voices. all those who know know Steve is my favourite, Although i do like Shawn, the Wraith from Condemned, and Gabriel from Common Ground. I'd be the first to volunteer for field research between compatilbilty Wraith and human!!!

    LOL. I didn't know the Wraiths in Condemned and Common ground have been named)) I like them too. And the clothes of the Queens were so cool....I wonder we saw different types of design of clothes so may be there are fashion tendencies among the female Wraiths.

    I also think the Wraith ships and Technology are fascinating- a ship that heals itself

    The Wraith technology is really fascinating. The Hive was hit by a nuke but was still able to keep the life support system and the weapons. While when Deadalus was hit the life support just disappeared I only wonder why the Wraith ships don't have shields??

    The Wraith for ever and always!

    So count me in for the Wraith Defenders Club


    You are already in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wriathlord View Post
    sorry forgot to mention that in the latest issue of the offical magazine of stargate there is a section on the wraith and if anybodys interested i can try and scan it in to my computer and post hear
    Just post a link

    Quote Originally Posted by wriathlord View Post
    i think so to cant wait to see what happens in the episode vengence
    All that waithing is....to make stronger the hunger of the fans. But I am affraid some of us begin to feel starvation)) LOL

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