Page 1 of 97 12341151 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 1928
  1. #1
    Brigadier General Madeleine's Avatar
    Member Since
    Apr 2004
    Location
    The Medusa Cascade
    Posts
    8,576

    Default Torchwood Episode Discussion (Spoilers for all eps aired in the UK)

    This thread is exactly what it says on the tin.

    Madeleine

  2. #2
    Lieutenant Colonel The Signal's Avatar
    Member Since
    Aug 2005
    Location
    The End of the Universe
    Posts
    4,281

    Default Re: Note to Users

    I'm going to reserve judgement until after "Day One", I wasnt hugely impressed, some people were afraid that they might have pushed the bar, and theres already signs that they might have done that (I mean realism is one thing, but theres only so many f***'s you can include in a script before it gets to the stage. Writing was moderate, some bits were great, Jack asking the murder victim what he saw for instance, while other bits werent quite so good, such as the bar scene, which wasnt overly convincing.

    Great to see Jack again, and to learn a little about Torchwood. So theres 4, with London gone (not only good to have it mentioned, but we now know the time frame of the series, and that Jack knows what the Cybermen were), another missing, and I didnt hear what Jack said about Torchwood 3 (or was it 2?), maybe some sort of foreshadowing of a future story, either in this or Doctor Who?

    Acting varied, Toshiko was good, Owen wasn't bad, not much on Ianto, Jack was great, Gwen was the weak link, I felt. Special mention has to go to Susie, and I didnt bloody see that coming! Russell T. Davies is fantastic at keeping secrets!

    Jack's immortality, I would guess is a side effect of being ressurected by the heart of the TARDIS, so I guess he has some sort of connection to it? Should be interesting when he meets the Doctor again, though it takes away a little of the danger from the series, if you know the lead is gonna be fine no matter what.

    Another thing, something about "globe research" anything to do with the Globe Theate Spoilers for Doctor Who
    Spoiler:
    the upcoming shakespeare ep? Is Jack looking for the Doctor?


    Little details are always good, The Doctor's hand in a jar for instance, and the mentioning of a "transdimensional Chamelion Circuit.

    Overall, it'd only be about a 7/10, but like I said, not a final judgement just yet, and it was a 6 until the Susie bit, so that might be the better one to go by...

    6/10
    Last edited by The Signal; October 22nd, 2006 at 01:57 PM.
    Equality is not a concept. It's not something we should be striving for. It's a necessity. Equality is like gravity. We need it to stand on this earth as men and women. And the misogyny that is in every culture is not a true part of the human condition. It is life out of balance, and that imbalance is sucking something out of the soul of every man and woman who is confronted with it.
    - Joss Whedon - Equality Now

  3. #3
    First Lieutenant Blitz's Avatar
    Member Since
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Northampton UK
    Posts
    886

    Default Re: Torchwood Episode Discussion

    Well, from clips I saw... (Tv downstairs, Me upstairs) it seemed ok

    I like the pteradctyl Some of the acting seemed forced at times, but the first ep is always a bit...rocky i like so far
    Blitz

    www.myspace.com/twilightpeace

    One was an experiment made to cause destruction in any condition except water, the other was an aquatic expermiment to destroy the world...but in the end...Stitch and Nim: They made an amazing Hula team

  4. #4
    Major General Reefgirl's Avatar
    Member Since
    May 2005
    Posts
    10,122

    Default Re: Torchwood Episode Discussion

    I only watched the first one, what a disappointment

    No mention of how Jack got back to Earth,

    The set came from DS9 (The wheely door thing)

    And Purlease the instant sexual attraction spray, gimme a break.

    The whole thing felt like it was written by a gang of teenage boys who'd seen too much Buffy.

    I was really diappointed, not even the prospect of drooling over Capt Jack can make me watch next week

  5. #5
    Lieutenant Colonel The Signal's Avatar
    Member Since
    Aug 2005
    Location
    The End of the Universe
    Posts
    4,281

    Default Re: Torchwood Episode Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Reefgirl View Post
    No mention of how Jack got back to Earth
    They did say that they wouldnt explain it as early as last year when the show was first announced.
    Equality is not a concept. It's not something we should be striving for. It's a necessity. Equality is like gravity. We need it to stand on this earth as men and women. And the misogyny that is in every culture is not a true part of the human condition. It is life out of balance, and that imbalance is sucking something out of the soul of every man and woman who is confronted with it.
    - Joss Whedon - Equality Now

  6. #6
    First Lieutenant
    Member Since
    Dec 2004
    Location
    London, UK
    Posts
    844

    Default Re: Torchwood Episode Discussion

    Well I liked it, though what was up with the pterodactyl?

    I liked the bit with the Doctor's hand, but I can't help wondering what Jack thinks he can do with it.

  7. #7
    Lieutenant Colonel The Signal's Avatar
    Member Since
    Aug 2005
    Location
    The End of the Universe
    Posts
    4,281

    Default Re: Torchwood Episode Discussion

    "Day One" - Not great, they pushed the bar again and its getting tired already, the "came ad went" and "feeling a bit of a..." lines were truely cringeworthy, we get it, your post watershed!

    Other than that, some decent character moments for Gwen and Jack, Owen may just be comic relief in all this, Toshiko didnt really do much, and why is Ianto even there, do we need a regular receptionist?

    Jack's obsession over the Doctor's hand, and the secrecy about his past along with his prevention of Gwen getting too attatched makes for an interesting contrast.

    Finally, if RTD makes Gwen and Jack into a ship I may scream! Jack's not the sort of guy to get tied down with any one person, tied up with several people maybe.... (sorry, couldnt help that )

    Overall, despite decent acting and core story, the pushing of the watershed bar, and the tongue in cheek gags sets this back to another

    6/10
    Last edited by The Signal; October 22nd, 2006 at 01:57 PM.
    Equality is not a concept. It's not something we should be striving for. It's a necessity. Equality is like gravity. We need it to stand on this earth as men and women. And the misogyny that is in every culture is not a true part of the human condition. It is life out of balance, and that imbalance is sucking something out of the soul of every man and woman who is confronted with it.
    - Joss Whedon - Equality Now

  8. #8
    First Lieutenant
    Member Since
    Dec 2004
    Location
    London, UK
    Posts
    844

    Default Re: Torchwood Episode Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by The Signal View Post
    5 Jack's not the sort of guy to get tied down with any one person, tied up with several people maybe.... (sorry, couldnt help that )
    And yet you mock the came and went line

  9. #9
    Captain Billz's Avatar
    Member Since
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Bracknell, South England
    Posts
    1,800

    Default Re: Torchwood Episode Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by pbellosom View Post
    Well I liked it, though what was up with the pterodactyl?

    I liked the bit with the Doctor's hand, but I can't help wondering what Jack thinks he can do with it.
    Obviously the pterodactyl came hrough the Rift in Cardiff by mistake. Its a Rift in space and time, no-one ever said it was locked on a specific time period. It must have shifted to the dinosaur years at one point while the pterodactyl was flying.

    Im guessing Jack thinks that if he keeps hold of The Doctors hand that he will eventually come back for it. He obviously never knew that The Doctor could regenerate body parts during his regeneration cycle.

    Im also going to use the Rift as an excuse as to how Jack wound up back in 21st century Cardiff.

    Overall, both off tonights episodes get an 8/10 from me. Did anyone else think that the army sqruadron investigating the meteor site might have been U.N.I.T? Im wondering because they didnt seem surprised when Torchwood showed up.
    Teselecta: "Silence will fall when the question is asked."

    Doctor: "And what is the question?"

    Teselecta: "How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?"

    Doctor: " *Brainfart* ".


  10. #10
    Major General Reefgirl's Avatar
    Member Since
    May 2005
    Posts
    10,122

    Default Re: Torchwood Episode Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by pbellosom View Post
    And yet you mock the came and went line
    I heard Boy George use it once to discribe Culture Club's drummer Jon Something, bitter or what

  11. #11
    Colonel Flyboy's Avatar
    Member Since
    May 2004
    Location
    Great Britain
    Posts
    7,933

    Default Re: Torchwood Episode Discussion

    Spoiler:
    Quote Originally Posted by Billz View Post

    Overall, both off tonights episodes get an 8/10 from me. Did anyone else think that the army sqruadron investigating the meteor site might have been U.N.I.T? Im wondering because they didnt seem surprised when Torchwood showed up.
    YES! I was PRAYING that they were UNIT. I for one am very fond of the old UNIT guys and I can get that torchwood are more important, but I at least want to see a UNIT presence, and that would have been perfect. However, judging by beret and cap badge (which I DIDNT get a good look at, damn it...) I'm GUESSING that they're Royal Corps of Signals... But hey.

    I'm liking the darker side to things. The F*** in the first five minutes made me role my eyes. It seemed like it was there to be noticed.
    Love seeing the police deal with things, love seeing the fact that people DO die and the consequences of that. The two eps today kept making me shout and or gasp. Bloody unusual for TV to make me do that.

    As for "Day One" not impressed by the whole sex alien thing being done THIS early on in the series, but I can overlook that due to superb writing. RTD would have made it an object of pure lust, an ep that simply got people going. But the guy who wrote this, made me at least, shocked, horrified and feeling REALLY sorry for the poor girl. Great drama. In my eyes.




    "Five Rounds Rapid"




  12. #12
    Lieutenant General Alipeeps's Avatar
    Member Since
    Mar 2006
    Location
    counting the shadows
    Posts
    19,591

    Default Re: Torchwood Episode Discussion

    Honestly? I wasn't impressed. Hubby and I kept looking at each other and saying, "This is a bit crap, isn't it?" It definitely felt like it was trying too hard - practically screaming "Hey look, we're the Dr Who universe but we're darker/sexier/more dangerous! Look, we have
    Spoiler:
    people shagging in toilets, real swearwords and lesbian snogging!"

    It was all just a wee bit "Oh puh-lease!"

    A lot of the acting was not great and the storylines didn't really pull me in, The humour seemed forced and all in all... it was just *meh*.

    Oh and did anyone else notice the glaring plothole?
    Spoiler:
    If every sodding police officer (including Gwen's ex-partner) seems to know to let any old stranger wander onto a crime scene as long as they say the magic word "Torchwood", how come Gwen had never heard of Torchwood?!!

  13. #13
    Data ShadowMaat's Avatar
    Member Since
    Apr 2004
    Location
    Doctor Horrible's Lab
    Posts
    17,531

    Default Re: Torchwood Episode Discussion

    Wow, and here I was being all hyped up and impressed and severely annoyed that I didn't realize there were TWO eps and will have to wait that much longer to see ep 2. *shrug*

    I think it was a lot better than Rose was, although I haven't really had time to sit down and think out the problems. There's a high degree of silliness to it all, but I'm used to that from Doctor Who and wouldn't expect anything less of Torchwood.

    As for Jack being immortal, I LOVE that twist (although shouldn't the cameras have caught that whole scene?) and I don't see how it detracts from any sense of danger. Most shows naturally protect the leads from death, anyway (and in much more convoluted and varying ways). At least with Torchwood it's up front and seems (to me) to be a believeable reason.

    Besides, I don't recall anyone saying, "Oh, what a ripoff! If the Doctor dies, he'll just regenerate!" Same kinda "get out of death free" card working here, only with a different set of rules. *shrug*

    I love the show so far. I hope it thrives and lasts a few seasons, at least. Captain Jack on his own show. Fantastic!

  14. #14
    Lieutenant Colonel
    Member Since
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    4,348

    TV Re: Torchwood Episode Discussion

    Torchwood premiered? Gee, guess I missed it.....I'll have to try and catch it. Always looking for good TV.......
    On fighting:
    Farrah: "A swordsman does not fear death, if he dies with honor."
    Dr. Who: "Then he's an idiot."

  15. #15
    Captain Billz's Avatar
    Member Since
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Bracknell, South England
    Posts
    1,800

    Default Re: Torchwood Episode Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Lida View Post
    Torchwood premiered? Gee, guess I missed it.....I'll have to try and catch it. Always looking for good TV.......
    It gets repeated on BBC2 on Wednesday at 9pm. There have obviously been alot of mixed feelings so far so it would be cool to hear your feedback after you watch it.
    Teselecta: "Silence will fall when the question is asked."

    Doctor: "And what is the question?"

    Teselecta: "How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?"

    Doctor: " *Brainfart* ".


  16. #16
    Lieutenant General Alipeeps's Avatar
    Member Since
    Mar 2006
    Location
    counting the shadows
    Posts
    19,591

    Default Re: Torchwood Episode Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Billz View Post
    It gets repeated on BBC2 on Wednesday at 9pm. There have obviously been alot of mixed feelings so far so it would be cool to hear your feedback after you watch it.
    Wednesday at 9pm! But that clashes with new Season 3 Atlantis on Sky 1!

  17. #17
    Captain Darkstar's Avatar
    Member Since
    Nov 2004
    Location
    Finally On Earth: 2007, What A Ride!!
    Posts
    1,502

    Default Re: Torchwood Episode Discussion

    Episode One Was ok, the whole acting and swearing actually came as a bit of a shock after setling in to watch then realising such words begining with "T" and that's not torchwood, i almost forgot it was adult TV, the acting was a little better than Dr Who and therefore the realism i guess was there as a result, it was over the top to make a series thats more sexy, violent, a rugged than before, I'm still not covinced yet, but you know what happens to many shows like that, they sometimes end up as hit shows.......and some flop horribly.
    I'll post about episode two later
    For all the pollution woes on Earth, will the Human race end up taking those problems into space in the future?

    We can all call our ships Sports Utility Ships to curtail the carbon emissions and hypersleep at night

  18. #18
    Lieutenant Colonel Mr Prophet's Avatar
    Member Since
    May 2004
    Location
    Huntingdon
    Posts
    3,933

    Default Re: Torchwood Episode Discussion

    Taken together, I found lots of things to like in the first two episodes of Torchwood, and if it did seem as though they were just doing a few things because they could, well hopefully they've got that out of their system after Day One, which came a little close to the point of farce.

    I liked the Welshness; I liked the humour (mostly); and I liked the fact that most of Torchwood are scum. I liked Ianto a lot (Would you be wanting me to do any attacking, sir?).

    Honestly, I barely noticed the swearing. It's nothing you wouldn't hear if you stood behind a perception filter on the playground of a middle school (or in some staffrooms).

    Hmm. Someone asked about Jack's revivification appearing on the cameras, but I noticed that the base of the monument doesn't seem to show up on the screens. It would be easier to assume that she missed or something.
    Behold the majesty that is...GERALD!
    - Read The Prophet's fan fiction at The Lost Vegas Public Library.

  19. #19
    Major General Willow'sCat's Avatar
    Member Since
    Jun 2005
    Posts
    10,202

    Default Re: Torchwood Episode Discussion

    I've only watched the first ep as I have to wait and wait for the second one.

    I LOVED this!

    As a first ep it was so much better then I expected, I was thinking it would be nothing but explanation and well sure it was but it also had a little twist in the tail, not just one but two. (Oh he wants to see a Doctor )

    Jack IS back! John was great, I could never buy Jack as distant or a loner, not really, so I am glad they are going with him needing to have people around him, people he can trust. Also he plays so well with others, all kinds of others.

    Gwen, was a surprise, I like her, I don't normally like the females in these things, they all seem so unrealistic but Gwen seems to be normal. I didn't know how much I liked the Welsh accent until she started talking...love it!

    Random things:
    The mentioning of the Chameleon circuit! (TARDIS WAS HERE!)
    MPreg! *sorry but I loved that*
    The drug fest... I didn't like either of them. Not Jack's little cocktail for Gwen and definitely not the other in the little spray bottle... Oh sure it is all fun and games till someone gets hurt.
    The swearing! Well I have to ask what swearing? This is what *some* people were getting their knickers in a knot over? *shrugs*
    The only thing I was upset about was the BIG watermark logo on the middle of Jack's head every time they did a close up! What is wrong with BBC3! That has to go. Why spend all this money on HD then do that!

    Overall, I seriously did love this. I was not disappointed, I was actually more disappointed by "Rose" when it screened. Maybe I expected more form Doctor Who; I don't know, but I really loved this as an opener, as an introduction episode. We do get some intel on the rift, they do at least pay lip service to Army of Ghosts/Doomsday and they kind of mention Torchwood's other selves (Torchwood 4????).

    I don't rate these things but well, much better then I expected.

    Fave line: "I show you something fantastic, you find fault!"

    .... still waiting for the next eppy.

  20. #20
    Airman
    Member Since
    Jan 2005
    Posts
    29

    Default Re: Torchwood Episode Discussion

    I loved the first episode - it was all I was expecting from the show and more. However, the second one was a bit more of a let down. I think some of the sex could have been toned down a bit and the effect would still have been the same (or even greater due to "implication effect"). Anyways, I'll have to watch next week's episode to make up my mind.

Tags for this Thread

Similar Threads

  1. The Story so far... (Torchwood Spoilers)
    By Admiral Mappalazarou in forum Torchwood
    Replies: 16
    Last Post: November 5th, 2006, 04:27 AM
  2. Torchwood Teaser (video + pix SPOILERS)
    By TRexx in forum Torchwood
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: October 16th, 2006, 12:23 AM
  3. 200th episode preview discussion big spoilers
    By GatetheWay in forum Season Ten
    Replies: 1065
    Last Post: August 18th, 2006, 05:47 PM
  4. Replies: 3
    Last Post: September 28th, 2005, 07:17 PM
  5. Doctor Who (spoilers for any ep aired in the UK)
    By Major Clanger in forum Doctor Who
    Replies: 736
    Last Post: September 22nd, 2005, 11:38 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •