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    Chevron Why delete all reference to them?

    I considered this carefully and it still makes no sense. The ancients were about acquiring knowledge and preserving it not about censorship of knowledge. Plus we know the knowledge still exists in the Ancient Repositories of Knowledge because O'Neill fashioned a replicator disassembler from that knowledge.

    So why delete all reference to them in the Atlantis datasbases?

    Did the Asuras ancients just not share their knowledge with the Lantean Ancients??? It makes no sense.

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    Default Re: Why delete all reference to them?

    Quote Originally Posted by principia
    I considered this carefully and it still makes no sense. The ancients were about acquiring knowledge and preserving it not about censorship of knowledge. Plus we know the knowledge still exists in the Ancient Repositories of Knowledge because O'Neill fashioned a replicator disassembler from that knowledge.

    So why delete all reference to them in the Atlantis datasbases?

    Did the Asuras ancients just not share their knowledge with the Lantean Ancients??? It makes no sense.
    Because the Ancients couldn't admit they'd failed at something.
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    Default Re: Why delete all reference to them?

    Quote Originally Posted by mappalazarou
    Because the Ancients couldn't admit they'd failed at something.
    to be honest the ancients seem the kind to be honest with themselves.

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    Default Re: Why delete all reference to them?

    I think it was the Ausrans that deleted all of that KNOWLEDGE , There must have been a way to kill of destroy the Ausrans in that data base that they didnt want anyone else to learn about ...

    The Ancient Repositories could have been made after the Ancients came back to the Milky Way Galaxy , and would have had the info about the replicator disassembler couse of Reese and the TOYS she was building ...

    Also The Ancient Repositories could have been made during the time Reese was just built , and her Creater would have put all his info about her and what she was abotu , Or would have had is mind downloaded in to there with all that info about all the replicators ...

    The replicators in the Pegasus Galaxy might be built on a more advance technology and the replicator disassemblers might not work on them the same way they work on the ones in the Milky Way Galaxy ..

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    Default Re: Why delete all reference to them?

    Quote Originally Posted by principia
    Plus we know the knowledge still exists in the Ancient Repositories of Knowledge because O'Neill fashioned a replicator disassembler from that knowledge.
    O’Neill may have simply built the disrupter weapon by using the general knowledge of the Ancients, not necessarily by using knowledge specifically pertaining to the Replicators or Asurans. The Ancients were pretty smart people, and they probably could have came up with a similar weapon capable of destroying the Replicators even if they knew nothing about them. So there may be no such knowledge in the Ancient Repository.

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    Default Re: Why delete all reference to them?

    The Asurans didn't have the opportunity to delete the knowledge. It had to be the Ancient's, unless an Asuran returned to Atlantis while Asurus was being attacked, that would mean that all of the Ancient's had left which I doubt. But, it could have been a virus which I also doubt. It was the Ancient's.

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    Default Re: Why delete all reference to them?

    Quote Originally Posted by principia
    I considered this carefully and it still makes no sense. The ancients were about acquiring knowledge and preserving it not about censorship of knowledge. Plus we know the knowledge still exists in the Ancient Repositories of Knowledge because O'Neill fashioned a replicator disassembler from that knowledge.

    So why delete all reference to them in the Atlantis datasbases?

    Did the Asuras ancients just not share their knowledge with the Lantean Ancients??? It makes no sense.
    I took their action to just be one of protection and not of censorship. Maybe the Altlantians thought that the Asurians were a threat but since they created them they would not kill them (or did not have time because of the war with the Wraith) but if for some reason they returned to Atlantis, or someone else did, by deleting the information it reduced the threat of the Asurians by theoretically preventing anyone from returning to that planet.

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    Default Re: Why delete all reference to them?

    I actualy thought the reason they couldnt find them in the database was because they werent exactly called the Asurans 10,000 years ago.

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    Default Re: Why delete all reference to them?

    They wanted to be perfect, the fact that they had made a horrible mistake angered them in a way. Like Daniel said, Ascension does not make a person all knowing. The Ancients aren't as perfect as they want to make people think. Even they are fallible.

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    I'm curious, did they ask the hologram? what the asurans were
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    Default Re: Why delete all reference to them?

    Quote Originally Posted by Metonic
    I'm curious, did they ask the hologram? what the asurans were
    Since they deleted all reference of them, how would the hologram know?

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    Default Re: Why delete all reference to them?

    Quote Originally Posted by Descent
    Since they deleted all reference of them, how would the hologram know?
    Like what someone else said , What if there looking for the WRONG word ... Maybe the Ancients had it under something else ... Would make sense , they would be able to find anything on them if they didnt know the right words to call them ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Descent
    Since they deleted all reference of them, how would the hologram know?
    well, the hologram would be able to.. well idk.. maybe find a hidden refrence... she probably had journals loaded onto her... hell maybe morgans back lol
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    Default Re: Why delete all reference to them?

    Well so far we only know the Asuran's side of the story or at least part of the Asuran's story. We don't know what the Ancients thought of the Asurans. The Hot Zone virus was probably created by the Asurans so maybe they started the conflict with the Ancients.

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    Default Re: Why delete all reference to them?

    Blah blah blah blah blah we don't know history blah blah blah blah blah

    Stick to the point of this thread.

    Doesn't matter if we have a biased view. The fact of the matter is.. teh ancients still deleted references to the replicators in the database. They didn't have to know what the ancients called teh replicators... Rodney had an entry in the database that said "it was an outpost where they conducted research, which was completed". From there, he was unable to specify what kind of reseach. Ergo, the data was deleted.

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    Default Re: Why delete all reference to them?

    Why delete all reference to them?
    Count Dooku deleted it

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    Default Re: Why delete all reference to them?

    Quote Originally Posted by Metonic
    I'm curious, did they ask the hologram? what the asurans were
    Spoiler:
    Hologram? What Hologram?

    The Ancients pulled Morgan la Faye back into their plane of existance and Atlantis no longer has a hologram.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barca
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    Hologram? What Hologram?

    The Ancients pulled Morgan la Faye back into their plane of existance and Atlantis no longer has a hologram.
    Spoiler:
    Morgan only posed as the hologram while Sg1 was there. There is a normal hologram in Atlantis every day.

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    Default Re: Why delete all reference to them?

    The project that lead to the evolution of the Assurans was a top secret project during a time of war, it would not be in the ancient database because the database is sort of like their version of wikipedia or the encyclopedia. All the data it contains is common knowledge. The experiment in Trinity wasn't mentioned in the database either. Its possible that only high ranking council members or the military high command would have been permited to access those files. If it is on Atlantis the data is probably buried in the records of the high council on a hidden database somewhere in the city.
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    Default Re: Why delete all reference to them?

    cite sources of assumptions, please.

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