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    One thing I'm having a problem with is the lack of "first contact" missions we get to see. In risk of comparing shows, SG-1 had a bunch of missions where they simply wandered onto a planet and the met the people. This has only happened on Atlantis when they met the Athosians. I want to see what some of the civilizations look like in Pegasus.

    It was still a fairly good episode, though. Nothing exceptional, but nothing horrible.

    I knew from the start that someone was accidentally tipping off the Wraith. I'm surprised it was Teyla's neckless, though. I thought that someone might've gotten tagged when they escaped the tree-covered Wraith ship in the first episode.

    Now that the Athosians are both in the clear and moved out of the city, we might finally get to see Teyla do something besides be eye-candy who has to babysit the same small group of people constantly. Plus I was getting really tired of Halling. The actor needs to tone down the melodrama just a smidge.

    Lt. Ford: The puddlejumper co-pilot who nearly dies in every episode. He's either getting shot at by Wraith, bumping his head, getting absored by an energy blob, or getting sucked into the vaccum of space. The only thing he ever does is provide military presence in off-world scenes, and throw out the occasional joke possibly involving a really bad name. We did get to see his expertise in weaponry in this episode, so I guess that's a plus.

    I wonder if Dr. Weir discovered one of those Jane Jetson hair-styling helmets on Atlantis. Or maybe she just brought some hair-care products alongside her toothbrush and other toilettries.

    I stand by the theory that maybe these are just the fodder-wraith we've seen. For all we know, there could be some meglomaniacal Wraith waiting in motherships, equally as evil and cunning as some of our favorite System Lords (ie. Baal, Yu, and Apophis). There's still a lot of episodes left to air this season, so they might be building up to the main villain's intro.

    Escrima-style fighting kicks a**.

    I don't know about the rest of you, but I was expecting a bug to crawl out of Sgt. Bates' butt, and hit everyone with the stick also up his butt. He wouldn't be so uptight if he was getting some Athosian bootay, like Maj. Sheppard.

    I think my only problem with Dr. Weir is intentional. She looks very uncomfortable in the leadership role, and I think that's the point. She comes off as overly stiff, possibly because she needs to set an example. She's already on a first name basis with her crew (Rodney, John, Carson, ect.). I think she's going to be a very casual leader with time.

    But despite any complaints I might have, it's still only the 5th episode. A whole lot can happen before the season is through.
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    Excellent character development between Weir and Teyla in this episode. The scene in the interview room between Teyla, Weir and Sgt. Bates(?) was great. Teyla basically ignored Bates and spoke to Weir as one leader to another. And, with tone of voice and expression, Teyla let Bates know just what she thought of his "interrogation" skills. Weir did, too.

    The scenes between Weir and Teyla in this episode have really started developing their working relationship. This may the one really unique aspect of Atlantis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mio
    Anyone else notice that after they came through, one of them yelled 'Shut down the gate!' or something to that effect?
    I forget who said it, but there are two explainations:

    1) Person who said it knows very little about gate travel.
    2) It's a new feature built into the Atlantis gate, which could come in handy...

    Anyway, great episode. No 38 Minutes, but good none-the-less, better than SG-1's "Season 3 episode" (I've started to notice a trend with the 5th episode of an SG-1 Season )

    I love these name you folks are coming up with when you can't remember the character's names though Sgt. Secutiry, Dr. Ponytail (I really like that one )

    So, now Mr. Wraith will probably be forgotten about for a few episodes, then bad things will happen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slainte
    Excellent character development between Weir and Teyla in this episode. The scene in the interview room between Teyla, Weir and Sgt. Bates(?) was great. Teyla basically ignored Bates and spoke to Weir as one leader to another. And, with tone of voice and expression, Teyla let Bates know just what she thought of his "interrogation" skills. Weir did, too.

    The scenes between Weir and Teyla in this episode have really started developing their working relationship. This may the one really unique aspect of Atlantis.
    Yes, I totally agree!
    And as far as the "spy" is concerned - I thought it was pretty obvious that the Wraith must be attracted by Sheppard or something about the re-activation of Atlantis. Why torture their visitors throughout the entire ep? Suspicion is one thing, but they're not the only new thing around to focus on!
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    The ep was good.

    One thing I like about Atlantis is that they give us information about the Ancients and the galaxy a little bit each episode, instead of everything in 2 eps like SG1.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Teal'c

    So, now Mr. Wraith will probably be forgotten about for a few episodes, then bad things will happen
    As for Mr. Wraith, in the episode "The Defiant One", Sheppard is stuck on a planet alone with a very pissed of Wraith, most likely this is the wraith they captured in this episode.(hightight)


    Best ep so far, next to Rising
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    Shockwave: Spoiler space or I'll have to kill you.

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    SPOILERS for 38 MINUTES (and Suspicion, of course)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz Lightyear
    Inadvertent in what way exactly? That the recon teams keep tripping silent alarms at all the planets they visit? What were you thinking of?
    First off, what about those special genes? The Wraith lay dormant until Sheppard and his merry band of genetic lucksters showed up on Teyla's world, now they show up wherever Shep goes. I'd be taking a careful look at the people on Shep's team. There's also a lot of tech floating around which the SGA crew doesn't understand. If someone is carrying around something they're trying to puzzle out (like McKay for example), then it could be that there device acts as a transmitter. Then there's the fact that Shep fell victim to that bug. It was injecting SOMETHING into him. Maybe it was more than a simple neurotoxin. I'm sure others have had close brushes with the Wraith, isn't it possible that one or more of them could have been "tagged"? One of 'em could even be the local equivalent of a za'tarc. If you're keeping yourself open to all of the options then you should be willing to consider something beyond, "It must be them dirty stinkin' aliens!"
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    haha, edited our posts at the same time :>

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowMaat
    Nuby- how about editing your post above shock's to warn people that there are unwarned spoilers in the post below yours? If he's too stupid to remember it on hiw own and there are no mods around to fix it, we can at least try and help some of the others from getting unwittingly spoiled..."
    Don't worry, I've edited it and put the spoilers in white, I just forgot for one moment

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    White text isn't that good. Since if someone quotes you it will show up as regular text.

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    Well, I don't really think anyone is going to quote that post


    I kinda expected it to be Teyla's necklace, they spend a lot of time with it in Rising, part 1

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    I thought the episode was pretty good. I knew that somehow Sheppard was part of the reason the Wraith kept showing up. I just never thought it was the necklace that Teyla was wearing. I kept thinking it had to do with the bug from last week.

    The finding land on the Atlantis planet was cool. I hope though they don't just move Teyla's people (I can never remember their name.) to the land mass and then never deal with them again. I'm hoping they work together for growing food, etc. and develop a trusting relationship with each other.

    I'm thinking capturing that Wraith may have been a bad thing to do, but then it should give some good episodes in the future (if the TPTB don't mess it up.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowMaat
    SPOILERS for 38 MINUTES (and Suspicion, of course)
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    First off, what about those special genes? The Wraith lay dormant until Sheppard and his merry band of genetic lucksters showed up on Teyla's world, now they show up wherever Shep goes. I'd be taking a careful look at the people on Shep's team. There's also a lot of tech floating around which the SGA crew doesn't understand. If someone is carrying around something they're trying to puzzle out (like McKay for example), then it could be that there device acts as a transmitter. Then there's the fact that Shep fell victim to that bug. It was injecting SOMETHING into him. Maybe it was more than a simple neurotoxin. I'm sure others have had close brushes with the Wraith, isn't it possible that one or more of them could have been "tagged"? One of 'em could even be the local equivalent of a za'tarc. If you're keeping yourself open to all of the options then you should be willing to consider something beyond, "It must be them dirty stinkin' aliens!"
    Yes, that was the biggest flaw in the episode. They didn't consider inadvertent tipoffs like unique isotopes from Teyla's world. Think they should have to make the reveal stronger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlemigueljr
    I don't know if its a plot hole, but that whole little necklace activation thing is confusing me.
    Actually, the whole bit with the necklace was pretty cool and very clever.

    To me, one glaring plot hole was the fact that the wormhole was shut down by the receiving end.

    As long as it has an open connection, the the gate won't shut down on either end. If the wraiths were trying to overrun Atlantis 1, wouldn't they have done something to keep the gate open for the remainder of the 35 minutes?

    On Stargate, Hammond used to put the iris up the instant the team came through, which wouldn't turn off the gate but it would stop unwelcome tourists. The fact that the SGC couldn't shut down the gate has been the basis for several episodes, including that Sokar one.


    The second glaring plot hole was that annoying Sgt. in charge of security. Three words to the writers and the director: Chain Of Command. Since Sheppard is the ranking military officer AND the officer in charge, that Sgt. would also report to him, not just Weir. He also wouldn't be THAT insubordinate early on to either commander.

    I found the Sgt. and the accusation of the Athosians as spies very tired and trite.
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    SPOILERS FOR *Suspicion*, *38 Minutes*
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    When McKay first appeared on SG-1, I really wanted him to walk face-first into something hard. When I heard he was returning in Atlantis, though, I was looking forward to it. I knew he would add an element if interest especially since he was a known character.

    When he was in the hospital bed, I lmao. He is very good with comedy and I love his sarcasm. (birds of a feather) I like David Hewlett's (sp?) interpretation of the character. Absolutely perfect. The more I watch, the more I like him.

    I liked Dr. Weir's hair in this ep and I thought the blue shirt looked nice too. It'll be interesting to see how many clothing changes everyone makes since they were only able to bring along a limited amount of stuff.

    One thing I don't like. I know the scenes are not necessarily filmed in sequence and people do have to move around till the next shot is set up. Isn't someone supposed to make sure that when the actor returns to a previous pose, it's the same??? Example...

    When Sheppard was hit with the Wraith stun thingy (brain fart) and he fell, his right arm was close to his side and bent so that his hand was laying partially on his abdomen. The next shot is Sheppard laying with both arms raised over his shoulders.

    This also happened in *38 Minutes*... When Teyla was trying to remove the bug from Sheppard's neck, his head was leaning toward the bug. When she finally removed it, his head was perfectly upright.

    Now that I've vented, I have to say that I absolutely adore Atlantis. I think the characters are developing nicely. McKay is hilarious. Ford is young but will probably be forced to grow up fast with future eps. Sheppard is a hottie. Teyla is strong and can hold her own. Dr. Weir is still trying to find her groove.

    Sorry about the length of this one. This is my first post and I had and still have a lot to say but it'll wait till next time.
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    I actually thought this one was better then "38 minutes", although it was far from perfect it was very interesting and had some real solutions for the continuing storyline. The thing that others have brought up and is still anoying me is the way Dr. Weir handles her leadership, the biggest problem I have with it is how she handles those that are on the verge of insurbordination. The scientist from the previous episode who disagreed with her came off way too easily, although he may have been reprimanded after the episode's end I'm not counting on it. Also the way she handled the discussion between Sheppard and Sgt. Bates about Teyla was annoying me, she should have at least make it appear that she agreed with Sheppard - he is her 2IC and she shouldn't appear to agree more with Bates then with him, even when she does, it compromises Sheppard's position. And certainly on a isolated base like Atlantis where Weir & Sheppard are boss, judge & exicutioner while there isn't any active contact with earth there can't be any question about leadership. Weir and Sheppard should listen to critisism but they should reprimand and stop insurbordination way sooner then normally would be done.

    Contrary to others I wasn't surprised by the Wraith blowing himself up. The wraith consist of Females (like in Rising) which seemed in command, Males (like the guy the captured this episode) which seem to be lower but still in commanding positions and drones (those with maskes) which don't really seem to have any real self-serving intersts. So the drone killing himself was only logical. The male wanting to blow himself up was also logical as the wraith seem to be a race with highly developed thinking which makes it plausible that they would put the survival of their people above their own lives (according to the psychological theory of Kohlberg that would put them in the moral development stage of 4 out of 5 while humans are tipically between 2 and 3, 5 is only rarely reached).

    The somewhat xenophobic Bates was really annoying, moreso because he was partially right in the end. But while I thought he was annoying his thinking wasn't entirely wrong, on the contrary I think he was mostly right. It was just the way he went about it and put words to it that was wrong. The reason I don't think he was wrong is because all wars have proven that whenever there's a war and everyone knows who the bad guy is, there is almost always someone crazy enough to side with the bad guys in the hope of preserving his or her own life - and I was very surprised that no one actually made that point. These people aren't necesarily bad people, mostly they will rationalize it in any way so they think it's actually the right thing to do (even when logically their reasoning would be insane) but those people are real cowards. Look at the commander from SG-1's "Homecoming", he actually thought he was saving his people by turning SG-1 over to Anubis.

    And very much like someone else already mentioned I was surprised no one at the Atlantis base considered a non human leak, some kind of technology causing their location to be given away. I was thinking about some tap on the Stargate system or something along those lines. But I thought it was a very good solution they made up, I didn't see it coming and I was actually thinking of Bates puting something in Tayla's bag to implicate her when McKay was getting Sheppard and started explaining.

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    Good episode. But I'm really upset that Teyla was not developed as much as I hoped, however she did a little more that in previews eps. McKay got shot, IN THE FACE, lmao!!! Ford is naming things again, hilarious. And Sheppars is the man. Great ep!!! And finally got rid of those Athousians...more room, less cast!

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    I thought it was a pretty good ep. We get to see them face off against the Morlocks, er I mean the Wraith, for the first time since Rising.

    My first assumption was some kind of Wraith mind control on those captured in Rising and it could have been either Athosian or a human in the SGA team.

    I thought Weir was a bit harsh and could have been a little more diplomatic, but I could understand why she did what she did. Bates irritated the hell out of me. I hope Ford gets more to do in future eps.

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    It was an okay ep. Things I loved: McKay hit in the face. McKay liking MREs and hospital food. Finding the Sky roof to the Jumper Bay. Finding land. Ford still trying to name things. Teyla kicking butt with that stick fighting, she got moves. Teyla and Weir interaction throughout the whole show. Getting a bad guy. Loved the necklace, wish I had one.

    Things I hated: Sgt. Bates, too mean. Why does every new person in the ep have to be mean? I wish we got to see more of the land, maybe in a future ep. I wish that Teyla did not have to give up the necklace; I guess I liked it on her.

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