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    I loved this ep!

    Was this the 1st time we've seen Bra'tac without his helmet?I can't seem to remember another time.His humour is deadpan & funny as heck!
    Jack: What's that smell?
    Bra'tac:I believe it is the horses..

    The "kneeling" fiasco at the 1st attempt at the wedding.Bra'tac sees the wisdom in "rehearsing such things".Kind of like the word "obey" in our traditional vows,huh?
    Ping-pong isn't supposed to hurt but when you're pitted against an angry Jaffa,you need hockey gear.
    Hands on the shoulders bit was funny but watching the horse go down the hall was even more so.I wonder if they had to re-take any scenes because of an animals inability to ...contain itself?Who had shovel duty ?
    "Molec" looked familiar,who ws he?Liked how he tried to brush off the laser,then he realized there was a huge problem.A personal shield would'nt have helped even if he did have time to employ one,would it?

    Last thought:
    Any ideas of the nature of the "Rite of Orloc"?Teal'c advising the knife be as sharp as possible & R'yac's face was great.He was all for ditching some traditions then .I personally,think it was a joke the old married men play on the new groom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramne
    The laser used to paint the target is a high intensity laser beam, tuned to a specific frequency. The missile has a set of sensors onboard that only sense that frequency, as it bounces off of the object. Once it senses that frequency, it hones in on it, and steers the missile towards where that reflection is. It might be more technical than that, but that's the jist of it
    Ooooh. I think I that makes sense. As long as they got the laser out of the UAV... and they did, didn't they?

    And let me ask you again:
    Did anyone else notice the reflection of the gate in the glass when Bra'tac returned? You could clearly see the stargate's reflection with a big bright light behind it and a spinning slitted disc to make the rippled light in the gateroom!!!
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    Well, that was a lousy two weeks with no new Stargate episodes. It's been difficult not to let my other obsessions rise up and overthrow my Stargate one, but I managed because I know just how dangerous a little variety can be.

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    Well, I enjoyed that very much. And I wasn't expecting to. 'Birthright' is not a favorite episode of mine, so another jaffa episode featuring Ishta didn't look too interesting. But I ended up liking it, except for the bickering between Rya'c and his girlfriend. Mostly because of the girlfriend... What's with that sudden outburst during the practice ceremony? Shouldn't she be a little more aware of the wedding traditions of her own people before deciding to go and get married? And sure, I can see why she'd have a problem with that particular aspect of it - but if she wants Rya'c's respect, then how about showing him some? I certainly didn't see any when Rya'c introduced her to his Tau'ri friends. I'm glad this issue was (briefly) addressed by Ishta. And Bra'tac, in Rya'c's case.

    Anyhoo... That was really a minor annoyance in the show. There was certainly a lot more to like about it than there was to dislike. The funny bits were great - Jack and Teal'c playing ping-pong (or whatever that was), Jack getting very distracted at the horses and kids on the base, and I also found Teal'c's initial reaction to the news of Rya'c's engagement pretty amusing. Even Bra'tac was funny in this one - loved it when he called Jack "O'Neill of Minnesota". But I am left wondering what jaffa warriors need sharp knives for on their wedding night... I have a feeling I'm happier not knowing, though. (Oh, and about that particular scene - I kind of liked how the music got all dark and ominous when Teal'c started talking about that particular custom.)

    The episode finishes off with some great old jaffa violence. Very nice use of the missiles from The Sentinel (Yeah, I know they weren't the same exact ones, but - you know.) and very nice use of Teal'c running up to the tent (where Ishta was held prisoner) while killing lotsa people. And, that's one more Goa'uld to scratch off the list.

    Yeah... Good stuff. Now I'm gonna go get me some stinkin' food.

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    Oh, and: The Goa'uld eye glowing is back! For real this time! Yay!
    Another thing I thought was a nice touch was that this time, the "obvious jaffa traitor" actually didn't turn out to be a bad guy! Didn't see that one coming!

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    I was fully expecting, when Bra'tac arrived at the SGC, Jack to say:

    "Bra'tac.... you're bald!"

    Great episode, loved Moloc getting blown to bits. Great to see Chris' brother too (The rebel Jaffa he zatted).

    My only problem with the episode is when that Jaffa said Zat... damn you Chris!

    And Bra'tac was exceptionally good in this episode.

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    This was supposed to be my "Okay, I'll watch it with one eye" - episode. Like some of you have stated already, Jaffa episodes aren't among my favorite episodes, Ishta was so-and-so the first time we saw her (IMO) and Birthright was not an episode I'm particularly fond of. And since I didn't have any high expectations going in, I was very happy with what I got.

    Things that made me both smile and rejoice at the overall cuteness and/or grab the couch in hissy fits of laughter:

    That opening scene between Daniel and Jack... What can I say? I loved it. Even more so when I read the trouble poor MS had getting through it. I would really like to see the outtakes on that one.

    Teal'c whacking O'Neill with the ping-pong. ROFL. Serious ROFL. I think I hurt something in the process.

    At least he managed to get in a serve against the defenceless wall. O'Neill: "Got one...". Fun-ny!

    Horses in the gate room... Heh. There's something I never thought I would see.

    Daniel and Sam's excessive smiling in response to the news of the wedding being held at the base. I thought that was the most adorable scene in a great long while.

    Bra'tac. It was very nice to see him out of his clunky head-gear helmet. And what a lovely "minister" he made!
    "Perhaps if we took a short recess..."
    "I can see why one must rehearse these events."

    This (sort of) new habit of O'Neill calling Teal'c "T" I like very much, I must say. It shows a real comfort in their friendship. As did the following line:
    O'Neill: "You know how I get when you don't call."

    When Teal'c pulled both Ry'ac and Co'rin into an embrace, at the same time, after Ry'ac offered his hand to him in a more official goodbye. That was so sweet.


    Then there are the things that I'm a bit more hesitant about:

    Those "You don't respect me" - speeches between Ry'ac and Co'rin (I have no idea how she spells it, I'm not even gonna pretend), both in the scene where they've just stepped through the gate and during the wedding rehearsal. Simply because it felt very forced to me. Plus, you'd think she'd be familiar with the ceremony and not act all Eh? with the kneeling thing. Don't get me wrong, I agree with her (why the heck should she have to kneel, and alone nonetheless?) but it seemed unrealistic that she wasn't aware of it.

    It bugs me somewhat that Teal'c obvisously has strong feelings for Ishta, yet in Affinity he got involved with Krista. Sometimes, I feel like the writers don't quite know how to keep track of things that's going on with characters that are out of the picture, 'at the moment'. Then they bring them back on the show and it's like all is zippedy-do-dah and things that may have happened when they weren't present are glossed over.

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    And that's about it. All in all, I enjoyed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liv

    It bugs me somewhat that Teal'c obvisously has strong feelings for Ishta, yet in Affinity he got involved with Krista. Sometimes, I feel like the writers don't quite know how to keep track of things that's going on with characters that are out of the picture, 'at the moment'. Then they bring them back on the show and it's like all is zippedy-do-dah and things that may have happened when they weren't present are glossed over.

    I agree. Of course the whole Krista thing bugged me at the time too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobthespirit
    What I didn't like about Ishta in this episode is that...I don't know, after portraying a 'strong, female warrior,' we get her crying and fawning around before Molok and Teal'c, and practically bringing herself to tears at the start when yelling at Teal'c about not supporting R'yac. I mean...wouldn't a strong, female warrior try a little harder not to cry quite so easily? We only see Sam crying either when a friend's life is in jeopardy or when she's severely tortured like in New Order.
    Well she was suffering from tritonan (sp?) withdrawl, after all. Also, how you behave in private with your boyfriend is likely to be different from when you're leading your warriors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liv
    Plus, you'd think she'd be familiar with the ceremony and not act all Eh? with the kneeling thing. Don't get me wrong, I agree with her (why the heck should she have to kneel, and alone nonetheless?) but it seemed unrealistic that she wasn't aware of it.

    Hold on, I just thought of this:
    She was from that rebel women Jaffa camp, right? So maybe she DIDN'T know about how the ceremony works. Everyone just assumed there wouldn't be a problem, and that she would just do what was asked of her at the proper time. It would also explain Bra'tac's coment about needing to "rehearse" these things more often.
    Horray!
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    Quote Originally Posted by puddlejumper747

    Hold on, I just thought of this:
    She was from that rebel women Jaffa camp, right? So maybe she DIDN'T know about how the ceremony works. Everyone just assumed there wouldn't be a problem, and that she would just do what was asked of her at the proper time. It would also explain Bra'tac's coment about needing to "rehearse" these things more often.
    Horray!
    You could be on to something there. All right, I'll accept that explanation.

    At least, until proven otherwise.

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    Well, this was an interesting episode.

    Did anyone else look at Rya'c's fiancée during the rehearsal and think she looked like a sixteen-year-old version of Sha're? Yikes, she and Rya'c looked young. I guess what bothered me about her is that we really didn't see why Rya'c was attracted to other, other than finding her beautiful. Did like her wedding dress, though.

    As for the rite Teal'c mentioned at the end... I have a feeling that it was something along the lines of *ahem* circumcision.

    Overall, I thought this was a good episode. It didn't feel Jack-light, as "Covenant" and "Affinity" did, and *gasp!* there's a Stargate! And aliens!

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    some of the dialogue was a little weird, but the humor was great. i especially liked jack & teal'c playing ping-pong (even though everyone else has said that, lol). not my favorite chris judge ep, or my favorite ep this season, but a good episode all the same.

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    I was bored by this ep. Brat'ac gets on my nerves. What's he like 130 years old now? Shouldn't he be on Chulak as a diplomat or something? Does he need to go galavanting all over the galaxy? I know he's Teal'c's buddy and advisor, but he's annoying.

    Jolene Blalock (and her boobs ) guest star as a love interest for Teal'c. Ummm . . . didn't we just see him with Krista a couple weeks ago? How many women does Teal'c have? So he goes into battle with Ishta and other Jaffa who are suited up in their armor and he's in sleevless. WTF? Did he think all the bad guys are going to bounce off his well-sculpted arms? Okay, Christopher, we get it, you work out. But I prefer my arm porn to be Daniel arm porn.

    Speaking of Daniel, if you blinked, you missed him. We did see Smiling Daniel and his cute dimples, but I need more and the scene with him in a suit was too short. I need time to savor Suit Daniel. C'mon, people throw us a bone. Sheesh.

    I did like the wedding ceremony and the female Jaffa activism. I liked Jack and Teal'c's ping pong game and his one-liners. That's what redeemed the ep for me.

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    Ok, i didn't want to spoil myself by reading all the posts, but i would like to say this episode had everything for me, comedy, drama, action, etc. And wow, Ishta, she deserves better than Enterprise right now, from what i saw, her character is a lot better in SG, although things may change the new season. Anywho, yay, Bra'tac! Ok, and the whole wedding thing annoyed me a bit...

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    Quote Originally Posted by LMichelle
    I was bored by this ep. Brat'ac gets on my nerves. What's he like 130 years old now? Shouldn't he be on Chulak as a diplomat or something? Does he need to go galavanting all over the galaxy? I know he's Teal'c's buddy and advisor, but he's annoying.
    He's a major figure in the rebel Jaffa movement, and Chulak is a world every Goa'uld and his prim'tah know the location of. Never mind that, well, old wise people doesn't nessecarily translate to 'diplomat.'

    If I'm in the shape he is at 130, I'd run around the galaxy too.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Calicto
    I think this is the first time we see a Goa'uld's eyes glow in the season!
    Jackson glew in "Avatar".
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    Speaking of Daniel, if you blinked, you missed him. We did see Smiling Daniel and his cute dimples, but I need more and the scene with him in a suit was too short. I need time to savor Suit Daniel. C'mon, people throw us a bone. Sheesh.
    Seemed to me there was pretty much as much Daniel as Jack and Sam. This was basically a Teal'c episode.


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    I thought the ep was pretty good. I liked everyone's interaction. The opening scene between Jack and Daniel was typical: Jack's looking for the bottom line, but Daniel, ever the academic, is seeking to give the entire explanation for the bottom line being what it is!

    Loved the ping-pong game. Or, perhaps, the better designation would be: target practice. Teal'c didn't seem to be aiming for the table at all, just for Jack! And I loved his getting in "last licks", so to speak.

    Loved Bra'tac. He was a riot in this episode. Who ever thought Bra'tac could do standup? <<g>> Loved the "rehearsing" line and his exchange with Jack in Jack's office--Jack can smell sucking up a mile away! And the way Jack gave him the nod to do the "Silence" bellow again.

    Loved the scene between Sam and Jack in the corridor. Not just the whole touching bit, but also, when Jack turns around and seems to be eyeing some of the adult female warriors as they walk down the corridor, Sam grabs him and turns him around. LOL! (Also liked their little conversation about Teal'c. "The...*chicken*."<<g>>)

    Loved the Sam and Daniel bit when they hear that the wedding is planned for the SGC. The patently insincere smiles were for Rya'c and Kalin (??), but the desperate hand clutch was communication between themselves: "Oh, god. Can I be somewhere else when Jack finds out."

    Question: when Sam said she had to go find a planet, was she subtlely telling Daniel that *he* was going to have to tell Jack, since she was *so* busy finding a planet?

    (BTW, wonder if they *did* go for the pinata?)

    The one thing I had trouble with was Teal'c's attitude toward Ishta and the predicament of the female children. I thought he was more than a little chauvinistic in his attitude in "Birthright", and I saw it here again. Yes, if you can hit the Goa'uld from all sides, it would be better, but Ishta was faced with the fact that girl children were being slaughtered indiscriminantly, above and beyond what normally happens to Jaffa. Besides, Moloc was apparently aware of the growing disaffection among his Jaffa and probably would have taken action anyway.

    I also didn't like the fact that Teal'c, in order to get Ishta to agree to let him come to the meeting, made a promise that he immediately broke. It spoke of a lack of respect for her.

    And if you think about it, even with a new System Lord in control, the female children will probably be better off, since we haven't heard of any other Goa'uld engaging in the same practice.


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    My hubby pointed out that there are under the skin pumps which supply 30 days of medication in existence, so why the daily dose?
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    >>..But I am left wondering what jaffa warriors need sharp knives for on their wedding night... I have a feeling I'm happier not knowing, though.<<<

    >>..Any ideas of the nature of the "Rite of Orloc"?Teal'c advising the knife be as sharp as possible & R'yac's face was great.<<<<

    Um self Circumcision?
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