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    Mod hat on here

    This is an episode that people are feeling strongly about. Their feelings are not right or wrong for anyone but them.

    Debating the show is fine, debating whether a person is right or wrong, is not.

    Let's keep it clean please.

    Back to your regular post episode postage

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    Quote Originally Posted by marimba26
    That was REALLY odd I thought. It didn't make sense at all. He had to get seriously injured for her to even tell him and I distinctly remember that she also told him that the information she was giving him was classified. Makes no sense for them to talk about it in a public place.

    It does make her look incompetant--not a way I like to think of Sam. And you're right, it would get her a nice bunk at Leavenworth. I remember something in a recent interview stating that as a Colonel, Sam would be a credit to military women. I don't think I know any military women who talk about top secret material in public with their boyfriends. It makes Sam look foolish and I don't like that at all.
    We've seen this in other episodes,where people are talking about classified information, so that wasn't that big of a deal. I saw Sam look around when Pete started talking about it. She would probably be aware if someone were listening in. And it's not like the people in this country have been so rude to listen in on someone's conversations. There were no people that just stood near the bench that they were sitting on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selmak
    I'm not sure that it was an Asgard transporter... It sounded somewhat like a ring transporter but more like the Atlantis elevator thing.
    I thought it was a ring transporter too.

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    Default Re: Affinity (807) Pete must die!

    Quote Originally Posted by lapislazuliswan


    Nepotisim is the curse of all entertainment, which is why,
    in their infinite wisdom, our producers are goofing up Stargate with the "Stalker Pete" plot.

    Everybody wants to help their relatives, ok then, which is why Pete needs to die mid-season, leaving Sam mourning her fiancee/spouse, as is proper for members of SG-1. (!)

    Then Dave DeLuise can get back to doing Beneful ads, having gotten lots of useful exposure on one of the most popular shows on cable, and our saddened, but determined team can get back through the gate to kick some goa'uld ass.
    LOL. I just adore that that was your first post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orce
    I was hoping for a little more when Jack and Sam were talking about Pete's proposal. That whole scene kinda left me hanging.
    Hangin? As in hung out to freakin dry.

    Okay I don't know how to do the spoiler cut thing as I never post in threads that require it, but I will post tonight so...
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    Okay first of all. Yes another earth based story. Aside from a small portion of New Order and the ep Icon all the eps have been on earth this year. A very bad pattern IMHO to get into. I would assume that at least one of the reasons is RDA's schedule, but I don't know that for sure. Anyway... Up til this point I've enjoyed all the eps, some more than others, but I've enjoyed them all.

    Then we get this.

    Teal'c getting an apartment was mentioned a few eps back. That's great, yay Teal'c, but did we need an entire ep focusing on his trials and tribulations? There was very little having to do with the SGC and the Stargate at all. We get the cloak and dagger bad guys and Daniel handing over the info. Way to go Danny boy. If he had said no what would they have done, shot Krista? Uh why bother. If Daniel had nothing to loose then he still wouldn't have told them. No real drama there guys.

    Teal'c was cool and reminded me a bit of Crocodile Dundee in NYC with the throwing of the fruit or whatever, but his section dragged a bit. Was anyone surprised when the girl kissed him? Can we say desperation and rebound?

    And now to the real reason I'm in here... and for the antishippers in the thread, tough cookies. You all can have your say and I'm sure you will. I have not been bemoaning this ep for weeks as I don't read spoilers. I haven't debated with anyone and I'm only just now crawling back from the concussion given to the SJers by tonight's turn of events.

    What the heck is wrong with Sam?

    Okay first off, Gee Pete way to admit you were 'stalking' her in Chimera. Sincere thanks to PdL for that little bit of dialogue. And oh gee we're moving to Colorado how nice.

    So he proposes, fine and dandy. So Sam is all contemplative and she's sitting in her lab and Jack walks in. My God she showed him the ring. My dear God. Can we say ripped out heart? Can we say devastated?

    "What about you, if things had been different?"

    "I wouldn't be here."

    Well of course not, he would still be married. Or gee Sam if you had come to your freakin senses instead of saying "Oh yes, Pete, it's fine that you had sex with me and left me like a rag in the bed, and then proceeded to stalk me. Yes that's fine let me tell you all about my classified life" FCOL. Yeah this is plausible, every red blooded woman would knuckle under in that fashion.

    If she had come to her senses after the events of Lost City Jack might have retired. His 'not being here' can be taken alot of ways. As in "I would be keeping the home fires burning for you, Sam" So what else can he say after being slapped in the face? Kudos to PdL for giving us a closeup of Jack's face while he tried to swallow the news.

    What is she, desperate? I mean a guy shows her some attention, does she have to hurry up and reveal all in case he disappears? Pretty obvious Petey boy is not going anywhere.

    And then after all the hemming and hawing she says yes. Oh yeah, that's a union that's rock solid. She obviously has doubts, again is she freakin desperate?

    How do I feel...

    Well I think this is a crappy way to treat a segment of the fandom. I find the twists and turns of the Pete/Sam relationship to be very unhealthy. Implausible is not the right word, much as I like it. Real relationships do this kind of thing all the time. How many people do we all know that exist in abusive situations? And yes I do think Pete is emotionally abusive. He manipulated her feelings in the past and it's entirely possible he could and would do it in the future. He backed off tonight and he got his way. The shippers got the shaft and that's the best way to put it.

    I've watched this show from the start, I was not a true shipper until two years ago. I decided I liked what I saw and I wanted to see more. I didn'tneed it front and center but Chimera and now Affinity have slapped relationships on the front burner in no uncertain terms. As a Shipper I've never asked for that, I've only asked for honesty. And now I'm honestly saying this was complete BS and I'm disgusted.

    I'll keep watching as I'm a glutton for punishment and an unabashed Richard Dean Anderson fan. But the latter is the only thing keeping me afloat right now.

    Treating the fans this way was utter garbage. Gee thanks ever so much.

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    Well...............

    Did I like it hmmmm...I not sure.

    I liked seeing Tealc having his own apartment, I like the fact Tealc must have got sum.
    The whole Sam Pete thing made me sick, Just him kissing her is GROSS and she said YES. YUCK.
    I am curious as to what the symbols opened are were for. I want to know how the NID got an asqard transporter.
    I liked the Daniel going on his own to save Tealc.
    I liked the kid with the skateboard, I thought he was cool and a good actor.
    It made me sad Tealc giving his apartment up.

    1 out of 10 I give it a 5

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    I was veryveryvery disappointed in this episode. It was full of cliches and plot holes and too much romance. Whatever happened to STARGATE??? I'm getting veryveryvery tired of this strange show pretending to be Stargate. Every week I watch hoping to see Daniel translating something or checking out a ruin, Carter bubbling on about something that can change the face of physics, Teal'c being... Teal'c and Jack giving orders as they (3 of them anyway) go through the Stargate and EXPLORE.

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    as I have stated before...I HATED THIS ONE

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    Quote Originally Posted by snappy
    I mostly lurk here but...

    To be honest, that episode was just luke warm for me.

    I'm a S/J shipper but I actually kinda like Pete. (Yes, it is true -- not all of us hate Pete ) To think that Sam would take that moment to say Yes just didn't ring true to me. And to hug/kiss in the middle of the warehouse at the end of an op where she was in charge, is that really the right moment?

    I didn't read any spoilers but you could just feel it coming that the attractive next door neighbor with the drunk boyfriend would shack up with the new single wholesome guy who moved in. And for a little variety, a woman struggling to make up her mind over getting married (e.g. am I bowing to the pressures of society to be a couple, do I really want to do this, am I being fair to him). Overall, the show felt a little to 'Melrose Place' for me.

    Anyway, my 2 cents -- what's yours?
    I thought that hug and kiss scene was very unprofessional on both of their parts. And then there was the sorta butt rub. I am getting nauseated as I type. Where's that barf bag!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selmak
    I'm not sure that it was an Asgard transporter... It sounded somewhat like a ring transporter but more like the Atlantis elevator thing.
    It sounded like the asgard transporter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ship Nana
    I thought that hug and kiss scene was very unprofessional on both of their parts. And then there was the sorta butt rub. I am getting nauseated as I type. Where's that barf bag!
    No offense here, but if I were Sam's fiancee, I would let my hands roam also!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orce
    We've seen this in other episodes,where people are talking about classified information, so that wasn't that big of a deal. I saw Sam look around when Pete started talking about it. She would probably be aware if someone were listening in. And it's not like the people in this country have been so rude to listen in on someone's conversations. There were no people that just stood near the bench that they were sitting on.
    As a military spouse of several years and the wife of a high ranking officer, it is in my personal experience to say that officers do not discuss classified information with their spouses/significant others and they certainly don't discuss it in public whether or not any one is listening. It is a UCMJ-punishable offense (UCMJ stands for Uniform Code of Military Justice). Even if Pete *had* the proper clearance he would also be required to have a *need to know* which he didn't in this case. This is covered under Article 134 (Failure to obey an order or regulation) and in some cases it is covered under the articles addressing treason--depending on the severity of the offense and the sensitivity of the information. Hammond said that the Stargate program is "SCI Top Secret" in "Children of the Gods" which means in RL terms that the information is 'Top Secret, Special Compartmentalized Information' which would requires a *need to know*. So yes, Sam could end up in Leavenworth for such a discussion.
    Last edited by marimba26; August 20th, 2004 at 07:18 PM.

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    I realize I'm new and all (read: please don't kill me), but I kind of liked it. I'll have to admit, I'm new to the fandom, and I definately don't think this was the best episode ever, but I did like a lot of the interactions, and I did think a lot of it was in character...save quite a bit of Sam's parts, but I definately did like Daniel and Teal'c's discussion, not to mention the three members of SG-1 sitting around discussing their love lives. I mean, well, they've known each other for HOW long? It was bound to happen, and it was rather amusing. ^_^

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    I'll never understand why people don't like Cliches. I thought the whole thing worked great. Stargate's CSI type episode really, take a very traditional abuse/murder consept and add the Stargate Cast. = Near Gold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orce
    No offense here, but if I were Sam's fiancee, I would let my hands roam also!
    No offense taken. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

    And maybe so with the roaming hands, but not on duty and not in a warehouse full of soilders after an assault.

    Could it have been any more unprofessional? She's a Colonel in the AF for gosh sakes.

    And the butt rub as far as I'm concerned was nothing but a rub in the S/J Shippers face.

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    I thought it was a great episode, though I didn't like how it ended. It sucks that Teal'c is once again living on base, and I was mad about Sam marrying Pete, hopefully they will still break up !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyse
    I thought it was a great episode, though I didn't like how it ended. It sucks that Teal'c is once again living on base, and I was mad about Sam marrying Pete, hopefully they will still break up !
    Her black widow curse will reassurt itself. Hopefully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marimba26
    As a military spouse of several years and the wife of a high ranking officer, it is in my personal experience to say that officers do not discuss classified information with their spouses/significant others and they certainly don't discuss it in public whether or not any one is listening. It is a UCMJ-punishable offense (UCMJ stands for Uniform Code of Military Justice). Even if Pete *had* the proper clearance he would also be required to have a *need to know* which he didn't in this case. This is covered under Article 134 (Failure to obey an order or regulation) and in some cases it is covered under the articles addressing treason--depending on the severity of the offense and the sensitivity of the information. Hammond said that the Stargate program is "SCI Top Secret" in "Children of the Gods" which means in RL terms that the information is 'Top Secret, Special Compartmentalized Information' which would requires a *need to know*. So yes, Sam could end up in Leavenworth for such a discussion.
    I know you know your stuff Marimba and for gosh sakes they didn't even tell Jacob anything about the SGC when he was dying. Not one little hint! Like he said, who was he gonna tell, G-d?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ship Nana
    No offense taken. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

    And maybe so with the roaming hands, but not on duty and not in a warehouse full of soilders after an assault.

    Could it have been any more unprofessional? She's a Colonel in the AF for gosh sakes.

    And the butt rub as far as I'm concerned was nothing but a rub in the S/J Shippers face.
    Perhaps they wanted it to seem realistic. I just can't imagine Sam saying yes, then they wait to get home to kiss so it doesn't seem unprofessional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mio
    Her black widow curse will reassurt itself. Hopefully.
    We can only hope.

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