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    Quote Originally Posted by GhostPoet
    I'm actually shocked so many didn't like this episode.
    Me too. There have been a lot of complaints that Sam's been "weak" and "girly" in S7. I don't see it that way at all.

    Sam's such a strong woman, but who's to say she has to be so strong ALL the time? Can't she have her bad days? Months? The occassional year? What woman doesn't start doubting herself from time to time, wondering where her life is taking her and who it's taking her with? I think it's perfectly in character for Sam to start wondering these things. I don't think it's "weak" of her to want a man in her life, especially since the one she wants is unattainable. What's wrong with companionship? Having someone to come home to, and not wanting to live one's life alone?

    That said, I think that Pete is just a fling and somehow Sam will find her way back to Jack. There, I said it.

    Besides, you gotta love that kiss, even if it was all in her head.
    Anyway I'm sorry, but that just happens to be how I feel about it. What do you think?

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    Besides, you gotta love that kiss, even if it was all in her head.
    Er, not really. I mean about loving it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taupecat
    Besides, you gotta love that kiss, even if it was all in her head.
    Thing is, though, not even in her head did The Kiss happen. The "before" and "after" scenes clearly indicated that, even in her state of hallucination, Sam was suppressing that urge. Certainly said a lot about her. I thought it was a brilliant touch.
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    This is one of those episodes at the end of season 7 that was lacking.

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    It was well acted... we get to see jake... even if he was a hallucination.

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    1) why does Jack showup in civilen cloths but Dan & til'c are in uniform?

    2) who the hell war that ship?? (i know this was discused)

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    Go to the Season Seven episodes thread for Grace. This should give you some more understanding!

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    I thought Grace was the worst episode ever.

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    I loved this episode, one of my all time Favourites, we finally get an episode about Sam. It had a great feel to it. it was really interesting to see how she viewed Daniel, Jack, Tealc and her dad, especially Daniel, he was different. the child Grace could mean alot of things, a child she never had because of her career, a lost childhood - going by that bubble scene even before her mum died it looked as though she was more interested in seeing how things were made than having fun.
    I'm also very surprised that so many people didn't like it. And i never once saw sam as weak and girly in season 7 at all. she's had a hard life. i also can't understand some people saying she got too much screen time in season 7 as well. personally i think that Season 7; though obviously Jack lite (which i dont mind due to RDA's reasons) was great for the characters of Sam and Daniel and Teal'c.
    About Sam saying jack is a type of comfort Zone, and that shes afraid to love someone because it must enevitably end in pain, i cant blame her and that was no big suprise for me, just look at her history, every one she cared about usally ended up dead

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    1: It was all (or most) in Carter's head.


    2: Some really powerful aliens with the exact technology level needed to leave Carter alone on the BC-303 so she could have dreams about stuff.
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    i think this is 'Gaw Jus'
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    It was a poor episode, I agree!

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    The thing that i did like about the episode was the mystery behind that big ship that overshadowed the prometheus, and me still wondering what it is

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlemigueljr
    The thing that i did like about the episode was the mystery behind that big ship that overshadowed the prometheus, and me still wondering what it is
    Yes. The point of this ep was to investigate, not the enigma wrapped in the mystery, but the puzzle Sam was walking around with(Stargate to Atlantis-The Lowdown: PD's definition of DJ).
    Gracie

    A Cherokee elder sitting with his grandchildren told them,
    "In every life there is a terrible fight – a fight between two wolves.
    One is evil: he is fear, anger, envy, greed, arrogance, self-pity,
    resentment, and deceit. The other is good: joy, serenity, humility,
    confidence, generosity, truth, gentleness, and compassion."
    A child asked, "Grandfather, which wolf will win?"
    The elder looked the child in the eye. "The one you feed."



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    Hi
    Does anyone here know where I can find a good quality close up image of Grace??? Usually I rely on Thalassa to get all my pics but there has been something wrong with her site lately

    And my thoughts on Grace:
    I thought this episode was good, AT was brilliant and I love the kiss but I didn't like the fact that she was telling herself (through Jack) to get over Jack and to move on wIth her life!!! Why would she do that! And what makes it even worse is that in the very next episode after that she actually has a boyfriend!!! I know that it is probably what the 'real' jack would say becaus ehe is nice like that and he would want Sam to be happy but still...
    And as to who Grace is, I think she is the child Sam wants to have(with Jack ) in the future

    Thanks for any help with the pic,

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    I enjoyed Grace, very much. You can never get too much,... no, wait, let me rephrase that: I can never get too much Sam on the show

    Quote Originally Posted by dorien
    Sam thought she was out there longer than the four days she was missing. This made me think that perhaps not all the events she thought happened had happened. Were the pods really gone? Were multiple simulations run? Did she repackage food? Did she record a ship's log? Corraboration or the lack thereof from the Prometheus after the fact would have given some insight into the extent of Sam's head injury. Just what was real?
    I think she did stay on the ship much longer than the four days.

    Remember what Jack said when Sam asked how long she'd been out there: "It's all relative Carter, that whole time space continuum thing."

    Obviously Jack had been debriefed by the Captain of the Prometheus who, along with his crew, would have experienced the same time dilation, without the massive concussion.
    Gracie

    A Cherokee elder sitting with his grandchildren told them,
    "In every life there is a terrible fight – a fight between two wolves.
    One is evil: he is fear, anger, envy, greed, arrogance, self-pity,
    resentment, and deceit. The other is good: joy, serenity, humility,
    confidence, generosity, truth, gentleness, and compassion."
    A child asked, "Grandfather, which wolf will win?"
    The elder looked the child in the eye. "The one you feed."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeleine_W
    AT has won a Leo for her acting in Grace.

    Congratulations to her, she is a good actress and deserved her award.
    Sorry but i could care less about the acting as long SG keeps me happy with cool visual affects.
    And thought.. why dont the writers ever put a period after any episode ending, who the heck were in that alien ship, who the heck was that guy in fire and water episode, who the heck were any of the aliens they meet all the time.. and do they know who the ancients were?

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    Why do you all keep calling Sam AT and saying she’s acting, your treating it lick a TV show or something, anyway, I liked Sam in this episode and liked the little conversations with her self, and so exited about the kiss at the end, but it wasn’t real so that not good hope she does it again, but for real.


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    This was not my favourite episode. It leaves me with too many un-answered questions, such as:
    Who were the occupants of the other ship?
    What did they want with the crew?
    Who was Grace?

    And why does the alien ship look like a Romulan Warbird?
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    My favorite episode. AT shone and the plot was brilliant. I loved how they never cleared everything up--what the cloud was, whether Sam was a prisoner or not, who Grace was, and of course the whole Jack/Sam scenario. Left everything open to interpretation. My own personal theory was that she'd decided to keep after Jack--a theory that was promptly blown out of the water after Chimaera. Grrr. Oh, well. Still a great episode, both as a series and standalone.

    Did anyone ever hear if AT got that Leo? I'll keep looking, but let me know.

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