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    Default This is the person who should have been invited to Atlantis..

    The Cadet that was as smart as Carter in season 4. She would have been 4 years older. Its kinda stupid that we never heard about her since that esp. She was one of the keys to the future of the SGC.

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    Thats where the picture of her is.

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    Default Re: This is the person who should have been invited to Atlantis..

    Cadet Hailey. She actually isn't universally popular in SG fandom, for reasons I don't really understand. Don't really care, either. I kinda liked her.

    Jonas is another natural addition to the A-team.

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    I actually rather liked Cadet/Lt.Jennifer Hailey,possibly because Elisabeth Rosen played her so well.
    I think some fans saw her as too insubordinate/unruly/cocky to make it through the AF training disciplines,and also they doubted her physical fitness and lack of height ,if she'd been in a RL Unit.
    I saw her as willing to adapt,plucky and incredibly intelligent.I see no problem with the idea of her ever joining the SG-A Cast,should their PTB decide to include her later.

    I always thought that after "Prodigy" and then "Proving Ground",that we'd see more of Hailey,but nada so far .

    Ah,Jonas ! He'd have been my choice too,Shadow .
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    Default Re: This is the person who should have been invited to Atlantis..

    Quote Originally Posted by F.H.BAGPUSS
    I actually rather liked Cadet/Lt.Jennifer Hailey,possibly because Elisabeth Rosen played her so well.
    I think some fans saw her as too insubordinate/unruly/cocky to make it through the AF training disciplines,and also they doubted her physical fitness and lack of height ,if she'd been in a RL Unit!
    Just for the record, I know several people who attended the Air Force Academy and one of them told me the reason he dislikes Hailey is because he knew too many people like that IRL there and thought it was dead on.

    I've know a few Westies like her too. As for physical fitness, that has nothing to do with height. The best I can think of is that she's not going to be in the air force honor guard

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    You guys keep forgetting the thing that is holding her back....SHE IS A CADET!

    I think Jonas should have gone, but he is still tied down to Kewloona as the nuetral 4th memeber of the triad council on his planet. His character is so great!
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    Default Re: This is the person who should have been invited to Atlantis..

    Quote Originally Posted by DownFallAngel
    You guys keep forgetting the thing that is holding her back....SHE IS A CADET!
    She was a cadet in season 4, she was a second lieutenant in season 5. If she went through minimum time in grade there is a good chance she's a First Lieutenant by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major Fischer
    Just for the record, I know several people who attended the Air Force Academy and one of them told me the reason he dislikes Hailey is because he knew too many people like that IRL there and thought it was dead on.
    If the portrayal was realistic,then that's the main thing .

    Quote Originally Posted by Major Fischer
    I've know a few Westies like her too. As for physical fitness, that has nothing to do with height. The best I can think of is that she's not going to be in the air force honor guard
    Westies ?
    (Sorry,I'm from Scotland and all I can think of is West Highland Terriers ! )
    I like Hailey and her height wasn't relevant to me either . She did have a go at the other cadet in "Prodigy".

    I have to admit,she'd need a very big box,or mini-stilts to qualify for the AF Honor Guard ....

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    Westies- I'm guessing West Point cadets/graduates. Big military school here in the US.

    Are there really height requirements? My dad said the military liked short people because they fit in subs and jets better. But he could have just been saying that to make me feel better...

    I can say that in the Navy, at least, they don't care. I almost joined, once, and I'm only 5'1".

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    Sorry, cadets at the United States Military Academy at West Point. Many of whom can resemble annoying terriers

    And yes, subs, jets, and back in the day cavalry. Specifically in the air force shorter pilots handle the g-load in high performance aircraft better. It's one of the arguements in favor of women because the center of gravity is signifcantly lower.

    Might also apply to tanks but my understanding of armored troops is not as good as it could be.

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    Do'h ! Thanks for clarifying that,Shadow and Major Fischer .
    (Although the WH Terriers are hardy little critters,I think you are spot on ! )
    I don't know if there's a height req in the US Military .
    In the UK there used to be req ,but it's so long since I gave up my attempts to join the RAF,that I'll have to look up that info .
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    Quote Originally Posted by F.H.BAGPUSS
    She did have a go at the other cadet in "Prodigy".
    My understanding was that in the original script they had her go Absent without Leave, for which she would have been expelled, and the military adviser had them change it to assault.

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    AWOL is the more serious charge. Gen.Kerrigan gave her another chance to prove herself after the assault ,but he couldn't have done that if she'd gone AWOL ! (Or at least,not easily ,IMO)
    I can't remember the exact wording of the scenes,but he made it very clear,that if she didn't prove herself to Carter,that she was out of the Academy .

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    Default Re: This is the person who should have been invited to Atlantis..

    Yea, she has to stop breaking people's noses, then she can do more gate travel.

    I still think it would be cool for a young SG team, compossed of Hailey, Cassandra and two guys, to be an SG-Team.
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    Default Re: This is the person who should have been invited to Atlantis..

    I loathe, with every fibre of my being, the idea of a young/teenage SG team. It repulses me completely. I don't mind having the yungsters scattered on teams, but SG-1 Junior? Absolutely NOT...

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    Default Re: This is the person who should have been invited to Atlantis..

    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowMaat
    I loathe, with every fibre of my being, the idea of a young/teenage SG team. It repulses me completely. I don't mind having the yungsters scattered on teams, but SG-1 Junior? Absolutely NOT...
    Hailey has to be in the midtwenties, and Cassandra 19, not that I'm advocating the idea, it's not a good one, just pointing it out.

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    By young I meant like 25.....I mean Carter was what like 30 when she walked through the gate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Major Fischer
    Hailey has to be in the midtwenties, and Cassandra 19, not that I'm advocating the idea, it's not a good one, just pointing it out.
    That's why I said young/teenage. Anyone under the age of 30. It's far too "young and hip" for my tastes. Hollywood has effectively decimated any possibility of a "junior" version of anything looking good.

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    Default Re: This is the person who should have been invited to Atlantis..

    She was so annoying in my opinion. She looks like she is about 12. She is five foot nothing and couldn't beat up a mouse.

    I am so glad she isn't on Atlantis.

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    Speaking as a "five foot nothing" kinda girl, I can say that height and general dimensions have little to do with fighting skills. I'm short and scrawny, but I can kick much larger asses than my own if I have to.

    And I fight dirty.

    I'd also like to point out that McKay is incredibly annoying, too, but he makes it work for him and, IMO, he's the best thing on Atlantis.

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    For the love of everything no!

    "Not to liked in the SG universe" is a huge understatement.

    If she was on that show it would have been a goner from the beginning.
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