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That was a good episode, but it wasn't great.
R.T.D. stated that this episode was epic (in DW:C), but it just didn't have the atmosphere. I mean, all of the action was centred on Canary Wharf, and some unspecified bridge with all of about 10 soldiers versus the same number of Cybermen. Oh, and a street with some unimportant family in it. There was no sense of grand scale.
The Daleks were great, as usual, but I was hoping that the PTB wouldn't resort to the same enemy they used for last season's finale. The show has to move on a bit. And the constant reappearance of the Daleks makes the Doctor look idiotic too. He apparently killed all of his kind to destroy the Daleks but millions escaped. The Dalek in Dalek, the Dalek Emperor, the Daleks in the void ship, the ones in the Genesis Ark... Sounds like the Doctor did a shoddy job at eliminating the Daleks.
Originally posted by Flying Officer BennettMy GOD, the shippiness made me want to DIE. The Doctor really was about to say he loved Rose. NO, GOD NO, WHY!?!?!]
The only other minor fault: Cyber-Yvonne. It just didn't seem possible to me, especially when she started crying.
Still, there were lots of good points. I thought the Dalek/Cyberman stand-off and the trading of insults between them was great. The Daleks are still great, and their interrogation of the Torchwood scientist at the beginning showed that they haven't lost their ruthlessness. I liked the last-minute surprise that stopped Rose from disappearing into the Void, which I wasn't expecting. And finally, the Genesis Ark was a great idea.
A good story, overall, I thought: 8/10
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Originally posted by Flying Officer Bennett
Let's see a Cyberman stand up to THAT!
As for Yyvonne, she went into the chamber with pride and a strong mind and sense of duty, rather than screaming and weak-minded like many others. That may have had something to do with it.You go ahead, I'll be right behind you (In an F-302)
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Originally posted by Flying Officer BennettOne last ditch attempt to overpower the Cybermen and possibly being killed in the process sounds much better to be than walking into the cyber-fryer.You go ahead, I'll be right behind you (In an F-302)
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Now I though the episode was great . The Cybermen and the Daleks taunting each other was funny, and the cybermen got there assed kicked royally, the very end was good, you have to have things like that to make the doctor 3D, not just someone who can just leave someone behind with no emotion, he isn't a cyberman.
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Well,
1. The trash talk between the Daleks and Cybermen was class.
2. CyberYvvone....hmmm deus ex machina = story's Achilles heel.
3. Liked Pete and Jackie but that last scene between the Doctor and Rose was sludgy as hell.
4. IMDBd Catherine Tate...hmmm...'think' I know who she is now. I'll wait till Xmas to judge her.
Overall, reckon last week had the edge but a generally solid sign off. Rose will leave a bloody big gap.
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