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    Visit the Episode GuideDOCTOR WHO SERIES 28
    LOVE & MONSTERS
    EPISODE NUMBER - 2810

    A London man meets a group of people who are obsessed with the Doctor, believing that he saw him once as a child. But when they start working for a man with a hidden agenda, none of them is safe.

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    I really didnt like it. It didnt feel remotely like a doctor Who episode, there wa slittle in the way of decent character moments, it wasnt even all that funny.

    The only things that saved it were the couple of comic lines that tickled me, Elton's feeling of love towards the TARDIS, something many many whovians feel from time to time. The other bit was seeing the Doctor explaining why he was in Elton's home, the look on the Doctor's face was full of regret, well acted as usuall.

    As for the comedy lines, there was the "We do have a love life" which was a bit of a *cough* moment, inapropriate, and generally I hate that sort of thing in Sci0fi *cough* Vala*cough*, and highly immature, but it just tickled me slightly, sorry... *sits in corner* . The other was of course:
    Doctor: Whats the twin planet of Roxicoricophalapatorius?
    Abslorbaloff (what a terrible name, at least it wasnt serious): Clum.

    It just tickled me.

    Seriously though, terrible episode:4/10
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    Well it was never going to be any good compared to the last 2 episodes. Far too much Peter Kay being Peter Kay but at least that guy from Hustle was good. I'm all for them trying something new but more alien planets plzkthx.

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    Oh, and the Torchwood reference, just in case it wasnt blindingly obvious the first time they said it twice. I was far happier to hear the words Bad Wolf again.
    Equality is not a concept. It's not something we should be striving for. It's a necessity. Equality is like gravity. We need it to stand on this earth as men and women. And the misogyny that is in every culture is not a true part of the human condition. It is life out of balance, and that imbalance is sucking something out of the soul of every man and woman who is confronted with it.
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    Well It was an ok episode but It didnt really work well.
    Although many congrats that Kid who design the Azorbaloff well thats a great creature I thought it was really cool and had the best line ever.

    Doctor : Whats the twin planet of Raxicoricofallapatorius ?
    Abzorbaloff:Klum
    Really tho at the beginning when the Doctor and Rose were chasing the monster was I the only person who shouted 'Its Scooby Doo !!!'
    Next weeks ep doesnt look that good im just looking forward to Army of Ghosts.
    I givbe the episode on a whole around 4-5 out of 10. Mostly for the Azorbaloff which was cool but Doctor Who doesnt really work if it isnt from the Doctor or companions perspective.
    Really it was a bad episode. Almost as bad as New Earth but the Azorbaloff saved it.

    One side note this is the second time in the 'New Who' that the autons have appeared and they havnt been called Autons in both episodes.
    Oh Yes the Sam is Back and hes more Sci-fied up than ever !!!!!!!!!

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    I really hated this one

    I am not even going to consider this ep cannon! If it is mentioned or aluded to again I will put my fingers in my ears and hum loudly. All the characters annoyed me, especially Elton and Jackie, and the storyline was so lacking. It was just silly. This is the worst episode yet.

    And the constant Torchwood references are so unsubtle.

    What an incredible drop in quality from The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit to this ... urgh

    *takes out demat gun and blasts the episode into temporal oblivion*
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    the episode was crap
    RTD crap

    hated the alien, Kennedy should have been human

    Elton geek girlfriend was annoying.

    Way to campy. The ending was so pathetic with her face in a stone. Bwoark

    And there should have been more doctor.

    The Elton character was an intersting concept, but its execution sucked. Citizen Joe was better, and even that wasn't so good.

    Worst ep ever.
    The Doctor Who equivalent of "The Tower"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metarock Sam
    Really tho at the beginning when the Doctor and Rose were chasing the monster was I the only person who shouted 'Its Scooby Doo !!!'
    Thank God, I thought I was the only one
    Equality is not a concept. It's not something we should be striving for. It's a necessity. Equality is like gravity. We need it to stand on this earth as men and women. And the misogyny that is in every culture is not a true part of the human condition. It is life out of balance, and that imbalance is sucking something out of the soul of every man and woman who is confronted with it.
    - Joss Whedon - Equality Now

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    Not your usual Who ep, that's for sure.

    Pros-
    Liked the Nod to Stargate with the Tardis in the hieroglyphs, LOL!
    Marc Warren - yum
    Peter Kaye as the alien was truly gross

    Cons-
    Short on actual Dr. Who screen time
    Bit silly generally

    BTW, I wasn't shouting 'Scooby Doo', more 'Benny Hill', could just hear that infamous bimbo chase music
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    Liked Peter Kay
    Liked the Absobalator
    Likes Hustle guy
    Liked Bad Wolf Virus
    Even Liked Jackie Tyler, only later, when she was hitting on that guy it just made it worse.
    Liked the Story idea

    Hated the way the story was told, it was told so stupedly, 10 minutes of Dr who, and 35 minutes of Crap story telling. I mean the IDEA was golden, its the way they presented it was just poor.

    The Scoobie doo bit was way to stupid personaly!!

    I dont think Torchwood is ment to be suttle, i think its just ment to say that Torchwood know everything about Aliens and are a big organisation. It not like "what is the mystery of Torchwood" like it was with Bad Wolf last year, As we know the mystery of Torchwood, we found out in Tooth and Claw
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    well, that was ...different. I'm not sure whether I like it or not. But there were some points I drew from that:

    1. When Elton was talking at the beginning about his "alien encounter" the way he said it sounded like no-one really beleived in aliens. Does this mean that they successfully mamaged to cover up the Christmas Invasion?

    2. When Mr Kennedy was talking about the "Torchwood files" no-one asked what Torchwood was. When you take into account that in School Reunion's tardisode Mickey's screen announced that the page was blocked by Tochwood are we to assume that most people know of torchwood's existence?

    3. Bad Wolf. Yay!

    I also think I found a continuity error. At the beggining of the episode when Elton is filming his old house for his dicumentary style thing he has Ursula filming it, it even shows her hand. Surely by this time she had allready been turned into a paving stone.

    I loved the Scooby Doo style thing (if they meant it to be a Scooby Doo homage, if not it was stupid)

    Also a stupid point occured to me: what would happen if Ursala and Eltton were to break up?

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    Ok, My views.

    Yes, definitely Scooby Doo at the beginning. *sigh*

    I actually LIKED the style of this episode. The perspective of someone who's life was touched by the doctor momenterily was wonderful. The acting from Elton was fantastic. I loved the flash backs and history of The Doctor. But that's where the praise ends.

    Negative stuff.

    All I could see was Peter Kay! FFS! PETER KAY, they needed a different actor.

    The character should have been human frankly, I suggested somebody who trades alien artifacts, trades to people like Van Statten.

    The abzorblimoff was good. But not with Kay, and not for this episode. The chase was daft as well.

    The ending was nuts. The slab daft. And frankly... GAH! Set up Rose's death nicely though.



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    As for Torchwood and Bad Wolf. I LIKE that the references are subtle to Torchwood, when the hell are people gonna get theyre not supposed to be as subtle as Bad Wolf. Torchwood is MEANT to be more obvious thats the FREAKING point. It's an organisation, secret maybe, but still a powerful presence.

    ANd wow for the Bad Wolf, I didnt leand the previous speculation ANY creedence, but the Bad Wolf virus is fantastic. Im all excited.


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    Not really sure what to think about this episode. I'll have to watch it again to do a 'final verdict'. One thing is for certain, 'The Impossible Planet' and 'The Satan Pit' are still the best episodes of this season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying Officer Bennett
    As for Torchwood and Bad Wolf. I LIKE that the references are subtle to Torchwood, when the hell are people gonna get theyre not supposed to be as subtle as Bad Wolf. Torchwood is MEANT to be more obvious thats the FREAKING point. It's an organisation, secret maybe, but still a powerful presence.
    Problem is though, in The Christmas Invasion, Harriet Jones was one of few people that actually knew of Torchwood's existence, and even she wasn't supposed to know about it. Torchwood was an incredibly secret organisation that only a few people in top positions knew about.

    But suddenly, in Love & Monsters, Torchwood seems to be public domain, and LINDA hacks into their files on the Doctor with seemingly no effort at all.

    Maybe they went public?

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    The Absorbasloff thing... Blue Peter ran a competition to design a monster, and Kay's character was the winning design. So having heard in advance that the monster was designed by a ten year old, I didn't really expect anything more. As for casting, I think the whole episode was designed to appeal to that Blue Peter audience. They, for example, not only cast Peter Kay, who is a huge children's favourite these days, but also Shirley Hendersen who plays Moaning Myrtle in the Harry Potter films. It had a very childish feel to it, and though I really disliked it, it is no more or less than I expected from the winning Blue Peter episode.
    Yepp, it's blank down here.

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    I just think the character was severely poorly used.

    As for Torchwood. Let's look at the evidence, shall we?

    Sighting 1: "Bad Wolf" - Weakest Link Question

    Well its REALLY far in the future, it probabley came out.

    Sighting 2: "Tooth & Claw" - Queen Victoria,

    Well it was the first time she had the idea so...

    Sighting 3: "School Reuinion" - Blocked Net Page

    Basically, the EXISTENCE of Torchwood isn't secret, but what they do obviously is... otherwise they wouldnt have their name as a big block screen.

    Sighting 4: Rise of The Cybermen

    Alt Reality - Forget it.

    Sighting 6: The Satan Pit

    Well it was once again in the future, so it probabley came out, if not, it was still a Torchwood Captain tlaking about it.

    Sighting 7: Love & Monsters.

    The Abzorblamoff, probabley knew about Torchwood through evil alien spy tech or whatever, eithe rway, he was an alien and he stole files...


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    Oh dear. Please don't throw cabbages at me but -

    :: gulp ::

    - I liked it.

    I thought Elton was really lovely. I liked the little gang of friends, and the way Elton described each of them he made them feel real pretty much before we'd met them. I found the format of the show, especially the narration, very un-who; I didn't really mind. Odd, because I loathed Citizen Joe, which was also a look at the Heroes through the eyes of some random chap the Heroes never knew or never thought about. But Elton was just so nice.

    And I know the humour was a bit juvenile, but it was funny and juvenile. They're not mutually exclusive, I think. LOL at the 'infiltration' of poor Jackie.

    I did have a problem with the non-linear nature of the story, because Firstborn couldn't cope and kept asking questions so I didn't hear the dialogue; which was a shame because it was good stuff, well delivered (except myrtle's and Peter Kay's was too camp). But the concept of the monster was really good.

    I'll be rewatching it.

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    The Moaning Myrtle thing was actually a bit distracting. I didn't realize how distinct a voice Shirley has.

    Yeah, it was a lame, cheesy ep, but I didn't hate it. I liked that it tied in to past eps of the show and while the Torchwood thing was a little heavy-handed (as usual) the Bad Wolf virus was kinda neat. I actually found myself wondering if Jack scuttled the information himself in order to try and protect Rose. Logistically that probably doesn't work, but it made me smile to think about it.

    I loved Elton. He's a bit of a twit, but he's an adorable twit and while the dancing around got over-used, it WAS kinda funny the first time or two. Just like Jackie to try and lure him in, too, and him apparently not realizing it until the final cornering.

    Resurrecting the girlfriend as a slab was creepy and stupid. And creepy. And stupid, too. There was no continuity error, though, as the scene where Elton and Ursula are walking along by his old house was filmed before everything happened. Or I assumed it was, 'cause she asks him what happened and he says he doesn't remember. Or something to that effect.

    If this was supposed to be an "outsider's view of Who" type ep (Like Lower Decks or Other Guys or By Any Means Necessary(was that the B5 one?)) then it failed miserably. I hope they don't do another ep like this and there are a lot of ways that it could have been MASSIVELY improved and tightened up (either lose the "talking to the camera" bit or end it with someone popping the tape out and sticking it in the Torchwood Archives- bit more subtle of a reference) but I still think that Idiot's Lantern was worse.

    I'm with Mads. I liked it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowMaat
    ... end it with someone popping the tape out and sticking it in the Torchwood Archives- bit more subtle of a reference
    THAT would've been the best Toorchwood reference since Tooth & Claw.

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    OH MY GOD!!!! Marc Warren!! I thought I knew that name! He's playing Teatime in the Hogfather movie. TEATIME!!! AAAHHHH!!!

    *runs away screaming*

    Having the hots for Teatime. That's so... so... so... wrong... To say nothing of dangerous.

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