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    GateWorld Two For The Road (220)

    Visit the Episode GuideLOST SEASON TWO
    TWO FOR THE ROAD
    EPISODE NUMBER - 220

    After the prisoner attacks Ana Lucia, she is tempted to kill him and reminded of her shady past -- and working for Jack's father in Australia. When Michael returns with news of the Others' encampment, Jack and Locke prepare to attack them.

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    Holy crap was that an ending to an ep. I seriously blew me away Ana Lusia and Libby killed within 20 seconds, that's a shocker (Libby's death, not Ana's death because I somewhat expected that). I give the ep (with the exception of the last 5 minutes) a **1/2, and the last 5 minutes a **** (or ***1/2)

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    Another jaw-dropper, this week. NOOOOOO!!! Not Libby!!!

    Poor Hurley. Is he gonna lay down under the wet blanket of blame or what? If only he'd found that spot on the beach, or remembered to bring blankets, she'd still be alive. Oh, well, at least I don't think any of the numbers were involved, this time....

    I just hope she's not dead; that Jack can save her somehow. If she dies, I guess that we'll get the rest of her backstory through Hurley's flashbacks.

    And speaking of flashbacks, WOAH! Claire is Jack's sister!?!

    As for AL, yeah, after Not Henry Gale's little speech, I figured she'd be executed. Unlike many viewers, I will miss AL. I think she brought something good to the mix of characters. Quite frankly, at this point in their development, I'd miss any of the characters.

    Now I'd figured out that Micheal was a mole for the others, but I thought that he had been sent to execute Not Henry Gale, not to stage his escape(that's what I think Micheal was doing). And to blithely shoot yourself in the arm at such close range, no hesitation...<shudders>. Quite the powerful brainwashing, there.

    I knew a guy who did that to himself to impress this girl who had broken up with him, I guess in a bid to gain her pity and win her back. He didn't get the girl, but he did blow his entire arm off.

    I don't imagine the damage from a tv bullet will be quite so severe....
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    A Cherokee elder sitting with his grandchildren told them,
    "In every life there is a terrible fight – a fight between two wolves.
    One is evil: he is fear, anger, envy, greed, arrogance, self-pity,
    resentment, and deceit. The other is good: joy, serenity, humility,
    confidence, generosity, truth, gentleness, and compassion."
    A child asked, "Grandfather, which wolf will win?"
    The elder looked the child in the eye. "The one you feed."



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    I only saw the last twenty minutes, so I don't have a comlete picture of what happened. Still, I doubt severely that Michael is working for the Others, at least on any permanent basis. His main motivation is to get Walt back. That's all he's thought about this entire season. Michael must have made a deal with the Others that if he got Henry back for them, then he'd receive Walt back (which any rational person would say %&^# you to, but he's missing his kid). And as a contingency plan, he's going to incite the survivors to go after the Others so he will without a doubt get Walt back and be able to take revenge on them for taking his son. As for Ana Lucia, I wish they hadn't killed her, though I think it was necessary for the story. Libby isn't dead. Period. I heard Hurley's voice saying to Michael in the preview, "Thank god you survived man" and he didn't sound as though he'd just lost the girl he was really starting to care about. I think Libby will just be in a coma or unconcious for a while so she can't spill that it was Michael that shot her.
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    BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    <pant pant pant>

    AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Farscape flashbacks! I'm having Farscape flashbacks!
    Through Life's dull road, so dim and dirty
    I have dragged to three-and-thirty.
    What have these years left to me?
    Nothing, except thirty-three.

    - Lord Byron

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    Default Re: Two For The Road (220)

    Quote Originally Posted by memnarch
    ...
    Gawd!

    Please don't post spoilers for upcoming eps! Use spoiler tags.

    C'mon!
    Gracie

    A Cherokee elder sitting with his grandchildren told them,
    "In every life there is a terrible fight – a fight between two wolves.
    One is evil: he is fear, anger, envy, greed, arrogance, self-pity,
    resentment, and deceit. The other is good: joy, serenity, humility,
    confidence, generosity, truth, gentleness, and compassion."
    A child asked, "Grandfather, which wolf will win?"
    The elder looked the child in the eye. "The one you feed."



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    Quote Originally Posted by memnarch
    i should have inserted a spoiler
    dude....spoiler tags...some of us want to watch the show unmolested.

    that said...

    the rumour had been there about AL getting whacked since her DUI. Whether the two are linked or just coincidence is something I'd really like to know.

    to a certain extent, I hope Libby is dead...she could be a great character for Hurley, but since they don't write that much for Hurley, she doesn't get a lot of screen time anyway. If for some reason she makes it to S3, then I really hope they have more Hurley-centric eps. He's my fave after Locke.

    I'm really interested in hearing the philosophy behind good and bad. I loved Henry's line...I came here to get you, John. You're one of the good ones.
    Is Michael one of the bad ones and so fair game to manipulate like this? If so, give me the thought processes!!!

    Somebody above indicated that Jack's dad was talking to Claire's mom. Do we know for sure that's who that was? I don't remember the settings for Claire's backstory other than the apartment scenes.
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    I watched the scene a few times, and while the woman does have a heavy Australian accent, nothing else really ties her to Claire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsDan
    I watched the scene a few times, and while the woman does have a heavy Australian accent, nothing else really ties her to Claire.
    Oh, I'd say that Claire has that woman's looks. In her season one flashbacks I don't believe mention is ever made of Claire's father, only of her mum. It came as a real surprise to me to see who Jack's dad was talking to, as I was half expecting to see Shannon at the door.

    I'm still wondering why Jack's dad needed a bodyguard and how he managed to wind up dead in that alley. Surely he didn't need protection from that woman, especially since he asked AL to stay in the car where she wouldn't be much use.
    Gracie

    A Cherokee elder sitting with his grandchildren told them,
    "In every life there is a terrible fight – a fight between two wolves.
    One is evil: he is fear, anger, envy, greed, arrogance, self-pity,
    resentment, and deceit. The other is good: joy, serenity, humility,
    confidence, generosity, truth, gentleness, and compassion."
    A child asked, "Grandfather, which wolf will win?"
    The elder looked the child in the eye. "The one you feed."



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    Quote Originally Posted by memnarch
    Michael must have made a deal with the Others that if he got Henry back for them, then he'd receive Walt back
    I don't think so. A non-brainwashed Micheal would have threatened AL with the gun, perhaps, but he stood there and shot her in cold blood. Looked like a planned assassination, to me. And then to turn the gun on himself and fire without so much as flinching.... that's simply not a normal reaction.
    Gracie

    A Cherokee elder sitting with his grandchildren told them,
    "In every life there is a terrible fight – a fight between two wolves.
    One is evil: he is fear, anger, envy, greed, arrogance, self-pity,
    resentment, and deceit. The other is good: joy, serenity, humility,
    confidence, generosity, truth, gentleness, and compassion."
    A child asked, "Grandfather, which wolf will win?"
    The elder looked the child in the eye. "The one you feed."



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    Quote Originally Posted by yaaayoubetcha
    the rumour had been there about AL getting whacked since her DUI. Whether the two are linked or just coincidence is something I'd really like to know.
    It was a coincidence.
    Ausiello talked with Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse about Michelle Rodriguez.
    http://community.tvguide.com/forum.j...umID=700000049

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    I am so watching this episode again on the website. I totally missed out on some dialogue in that scene with Ana Lucia and Jack's dad.

    This episode was shocking enough to be viewed twice.

    Am I the only one who thinks the other's Michael described aren't the same others doing the kidnapping?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshangel
    This episode was shocking enough to be viewed twice.
    Thank goodness for ABC's new streaming episode thingie, huh? 'cause...frankly this episode confused me, I have to see it again.

    Quote Originally Posted by MarshAngel
    Am I the only one who thinks the other's Michael described aren't the same others doing the kidnapping?
    Nope. I think he's been brainwashed or subverted...or cloned. But that's just me.

    Maybe there's two different camps of Others. The ones who kidnap, and then other that are too weak or young to do anything like that.

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    Or the others could be laying a trap, the better to take out and disarm the most dangerous Losties. It would be easier for the others if Micheal led them into their own territory where they could seperate the "good" from the "bad."
    Gracie

    A Cherokee elder sitting with his grandchildren told them,
    "In every life there is a terrible fight – a fight between two wolves.
    One is evil: he is fear, anger, envy, greed, arrogance, self-pity,
    resentment, and deceit. The other is good: joy, serenity, humility,
    confidence, generosity, truth, gentleness, and compassion."
    A child asked, "Grandfather, which wolf will win?"
    The elder looked the child in the eye. "The one you feed."



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    It's probably a trap. Henry almost looked like he expected Michael to show up, and wasn't scared. Michael doesn't know that they found evidence that "The Others" AREN'T just 'tent-dwellers'. I'm bettning they agreed to return Walt if Michael helped them. It seems like he's letting Henry escape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watters87
    It was a coincidence.
    Ausiello talked with Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse about Michelle Rodriguez.
    http://community.tvguide.com/forum.j...umID=700000049
    well sure....that's what they say in public...

    but i just find it ironic that the two women that got tagged for DUI while filming also end up dead at the end of the season...that coupled with rumours of MR ongoing questionable behaviour make me wonder.

    of course they're not going to say, well he had to kill her off because firing her for a drinking problem would get us sued.
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    Wow. That episode totally blew me away. The ending seemed like season finale material! I can't wait to see what's coming next.

    And I loved the 'There's Jin!' scene, with Jin's sign of approval. That totally cracked me up.

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    libby seriously dead?, i would of liked to see more of her and her history with the nut house and stuff. why michael!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
    anyone up for some Armageddon?

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    Okay. Went back and watched it again. The woman Jack's dad was talking too could definitely be Claire's mother, in fact at first I thought he was talking to Claire when I saw her from a distance.

    And wow, talk about being blown away. I so totally did not expect that. Especially since tptb made a point of saying that the "issues" with the actors playing Ana Lucia and Libby would not affect their roles. And I sure as heck didn't expect Michael to kill them.

    And sigh. Poor Hurley. He's gonna be devastated.

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    dude....spoiler tags...some of us want to watch the show unmolested.

    Gawd!

    Please don't post spoilers for upcoming eps! Use spoiler tags.

    C'mon!
    Okay, Tok'ra Hostess, you also posted spoilers. Before me. Also without tags. Please don't tell me off for something you also did.


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    Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Michael say he was sorry to Ana Lucia before shooting her? And didn't he look shocked or remorseful when he shot Libby in panic? Maybe I don't remember correctly. I'm watching it again soon, though...
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