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  1. #101
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seaboe Muffinchucker View Post
    I believe that was the point.

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    How so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    How so?
    Different actors, different characters. Mitchell's not supposed to be O'Neill.

    But I guess in your case it's more about Ben Browder not being Richard Dean Anderson (talking about the man, not the character -- if I can wage a guess).
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    I understand why RDA needed the time off, and had to basically quit the show. But no, his character could not be replaced. Ever. However, I did like Mitchell a lot. He was capable and not annoying like Jonas.

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    What Falcon Horus said. Cam isn't supposed to be Jack. His experiences before the gate were different, he was younger, his personality was different, his sense of humor was different.

    I liked Jonas. I liked the way he was awkward at the beginning but became more confident as time passed. I liked the way Jack kept testing him (among other things, to make sure he could obey orders, since Daniel could not).

    I hated the way they turned Jack into a buffoon. I appreciated his sense of humor, but they took it past the point of mere humor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seaboe Muffinchucker View Post
    What Falcon Horus said. Cam isn't supposed to be Jack. His experiences before the gate were different, he was younger, his personality was different, his sense of humor was different.

    I liked Jonas. I liked the way he was awkward at the beginning but became more confident as time passed. I liked the way Jack kept testing him (among other things, to make sure he could obey orders, since Daniel could not).

    I hated the way they turned Jack into a buffoon. I appreciated his sense of humor, but they took it past the point of mere humor.

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    I didn't mean that Mitchell was supposed to "be Jack," only that Jack is irreplaceable. And I think it is somewhat obvious that the producers thought he was replaceable. I hope I cleared things up.

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    Have to say I was glad to see the back of Jonas. I just didn't find him an interesting character. I don't know whether it was because of how he was written or how the actor played him. I didn't see any chemistry with the other three leads either.

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    I noticed chemistry, and it was strange that a mentally shaken Jackson had to do the rescue work - but he succeeded. Jonas is cute and smart.
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    Did I really see two US Airforce officers rolling their eyes and criticising a government for using a weapon of mass destruction to deter foreign aggression?

    Shouldn't they have at least have explained why they know it isn't a good idea? And wasn't the bomb used in an uninhabited area?

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Am Not James Spader View Post
    Did I really see two US Airforce officers rolling their eyes and criticising a government for using a weapon of mass destruction to deter foreign aggression?

    Shouldn't they have at least have explained why they know it isn't a good idea? And wasn't the bomb used in an uninhabited area?
    Think they went over this in two previous episodes.. and they still used the bomb *slaps forehead*. Of course the SGC/US did nothing to stop it either.. they could of helped Jonas's people set up a show of military power somehow, fire some lasers into the sky or exploded a nuke over the ocean or something - minimum damage, no fuss.

    Jonas is gone. I didn't dislike him, he had his moments. Though it kind of annoyed me how they kept bringing up his special physiology/quick study thing, almost every episode he is in. And then they went no-where with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nirude View Post
    Jonas is gone. I didn't dislike him, he had his moments. Though it kind of annoyed me how they kept bringing up his special physiology/quick study thing, almost every episode he is in. And then they went no-where with it.
    Well, it was a good reason to make him a member of SG1.
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    Excellent episode, but really sad to see Jonas go. . I really feel that should have brought Jonas to Atlantis. But, at least, he is still alive and had a proper farewell. It sort of reminded me of Hail and Farewell parties when my husband was in the army-- saying goodbye to someone who is being stationed somewhere else, and greeting the person taking his/her place.

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    First of all apologies for the lengthy pause between this episode and Fallen, but I contributed to Fandom Stocking on Dreamwith in the last 2 weeks of December and the first 2 of January, so I had little to no time to contribute to anything stargate related, except for writing 5 ficlets to put in stockings.

    I'm back to watching. Gonna try to keep a frequency of 3 a week, but I can't promise anything since my love for stargate has cooled considerably. Plenty of other things that do bring me joy have taken its place (Doctor Who -- see signature -- and I just started watching Outlander).

    Anyhow... Homecoming...

    While I really enjoy the episode and the story being told, I am saddened it's Jonas Quinn's final goodbye (until we see him again in 8 for one episode). Back to Kelowna, and Daniel back on the team, like season 6 was a glitch. Jonas is now in the past.

    Kelowna people are stilll squabbling among themselves. Anubis wants to be all powerful, and Ba'al gets to play too with his small army -- even if Anubis flies off into the sunset before his ship is destroyed right under his nose. Daniel and Jonas on Anubis' ship is adorkable and we're basically seeing a good solid SG-1 story.

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    14:54

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    13:30

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    I believe they should have moved Jonas to Stargate : Atlantis instead of starting Ford, so we could have had a science/history "self educated" expert on the SGA expedition. It could have been a different team dynamic next to McKay and Sheppard, while he could have been used in any supporting role. But anyway I was just thinking loudly.
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    I think if he had been "Ford", they would have "Forded" him all the same in Atlantis.
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    This episode is bitter sweet. For the most part I liked it seeing the return to Kelowna and the invasion of Anubis. The highlight is the Jonas' and Daniel interaction and the naive nature of the Kelownans. I'm bitter because of how the writers dropped Jonas after this episode. My bitterness makes this episode a fair with 7:42 and 12/15
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    12.39, I am improving. Bring on the next one.

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