I stuck a VHS into the Halls of Res machine...
1. The laugh is, by the time this ep aired in the UK, we already knew that Jonas was being written out of S7!
2. Rewatching, the biggest thing was remembering how all the premonitions played out.
3. Again, the guy was still trying desperately to fit in.
4. Still, the way the final ambush was averted was a bit nuts.
Decen enough ep.
Thought it was going to be terrible, but it was still average. With some entertaining moments.
I think this might be the last time we actually see the original GDOs on screen (we'll see a more compact version on Atlantis). I always wonder (present tense) what happened to them.
Also, this might be the only time the Goa'uld come through the Gate to attack Earth/SGC (during the normal timeline (not alternate timeline, like past episodes), even if it was changed by Jonas).
Tomorrow, the final episode of the part of our journey through the 6th Season. It is my favorite episode of SG-1 and the franchise as a whole.
Another episode I enjoyed watching again, not having seen it for a long time.
At this point I felt it was quite sad that Jonas was being written out, he really did find his feet in the end, even though he doubted his true value still. I'd come to like the personable character by this time.
I love anything to do with prophecies and how they can be interpreted to suit whatever the situation or state of mind warrants. A fun look at what problems actually knowing what will happen and trying to change events can cause, the outcome is not always the desired one! An entertaining episode for this and it was fun to watch again.
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Great stuff, this ep. Poor Jonas, he so wants to help...
"Thanks to denial, I'm immortal."
"A big 'Hello' to all intelligent life out there, and for everyone else, the secret is to bang the rocks together, guys!"
"Excuse me, barmaid? You seem to have brought me the wrong offspring. I ordered an extra large boy with beefy arms, extra guts and glory on the side. This here, this is a talking fishbone!"
"I'm Jack. It means... what's in the box?"
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Only watched this episode once before, now I know why. One of my least favourite episodes - just never appealed to me.
Knowing Janet's history, I don't think she would have allowed Jonas' condition to go on as long as it did - even if he didn't want it.
Not good but not bad either. The concept of Jonas having precognition is interesting and something Stargate has never explored before. So it was interesting to Stargate's twist on this science fiction classic. But the whole Lord Mot and his clash with SG1 was yawning to me. It was nothing special and ground breaking in seeing them kill Mot. I was more interested in Jonas especially the part about him still having to prove himself. That part between him and Fraiser was very eye opening. Something that annoyed me is when the SGC was being attacked in the "Jonas vision" why did not any of the technicians think of closing the iris instead of waiting for Hammond. Of course he will want the iris closed.
An interesting ep. But not one I would revisit.
Sad to see Jonas still thought he had to prove himself even at this point.
Time to watch one of my all time favourite eps.
This ep shows that the writers thought it to be the last season. It was average, but interesting too.
I love Jonas so much, and I will miss him come season 7...
Anyhow, I really enjoy this episode so much. Jonas still doubting if he really is one of the team and trying to proof himself worthy, almost getting himself killed in the process.
It's an interesting idea being able to predict the future but as we all know too many variables to take into account. However, doesn't mean we can't influence the outcome or the way things go.
It gets tight at the end when Jonas knows what's going to happen and he can't say it anymore... the first time round I was like "Oh ****, this is not happening". Of course, second time viewing (or many more to be precise) I did know what was going to happen and how, but I was still on the edge of my proverbial seat.
Fun thing spotted: when Teal'c shoots that one Jaffa that's standing on the little wall, the wall moves back and forth when the stunt guy falls backwards.
Does anyone in the UK remember when this episode was first shown on Channel 4 in the UK? I'm thinking around 2003 / 2004 time.
According to the Wiki page its first airing on Sky One was on February 19 2003, so Channel 4 would probably be the same year (if not around the same time).
Thank you. That's the sort of time I had in mind. It's the first episode I saw and probably helped with my love of Fraiser as my favourite character (along with Hammond, of course).
A good episode but I wish that they'd had the time to make the effect of the visions a little more complex.
However, it was good for a 40 minute story and the little twist in the effect of the final vision was great in being the catalyst to prevent it coming through.
And I love that like the writers again showed the natives as taking charge of their own destiny - the girl freeing the soldiers and executing the Go'auld herself. I would have like it if they'd shown her turn the gun on the traitor with the implication that she killed him too.
An OK episode for me...
Little bit fortune telling, a great many bad guys and a cute Jonas Quinn, who is doing a great job trying not to replace Dr Jackson but to present an interesting character.
I think that this is the great episode for Jonas and it belongs to my favourite episodes in the whole series. Jonas had such a great potential as a character and I was really sorry that he was gone so shortly after this episode
I especially like the visions of Jonas as seemed to be quite powerful (the vision with the attack at SGC the best, poor soldiers there they managed to stop Jaffa but too late unfortunately) and his desperate effort to help at the cost of his own life.
I like one specific point in the vision of the ambush by the Gate and it is that Teal'c died when he was trying to save the member of different SG team (major Pierce). Not only because I like the character of Pierce (he was great, I would wish to see him more in later seasons as least the same amount of episodes as Reynolds) but I do not remember a different scene when SG1 member would be injured or killed when he tried to save a member of different team. All these guys on SG teams are important after all.
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For me, personally, this is the best episode of season 6 and the best one for Jonas Quinn. I love that character so much and it really saddens me that he won't be around come season 7 but it is what it is, I guess.
In any case, another episode which starts with Nirrti's history of wanting to create and advanced human, and it shows us how far she might have gotten were she still alive. I think she would have been pleased with Jonas' ability to see the future, even if it was sketchy at best and perhaps only one of many possibilities.
The idea of predicting the future exactly as it will happen is a fascinating one, though so many possible outcomes one would just get a headache just thinking about it.
Also, spotten this fun fact again...
How would you rate SG-1's "Prophecy?"
3-episode quiz: The Changeling, Memento & Prophecy
Jigsaw puzzle: Prophecy
Even when different SG teams never were central focus of the series, we could see all these years that are no less competent than SG-1, yes, they were killed many times, but never was shown that it would be for not being good enough, they only had bad luck. Only two SG teams members who were not competent were these two members of SG-9 from The First Commandment (Hanson and Baker) who proclaimed themselves as Gods.
I agree that this episode shows the heroismus of SGC personal nicely.
I noticed one possible mistake in one of Jonas¨s visions - when he had the vision of burned Sam, should not be Siler seen in this vision as he was present there when it really happened?