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    lol! well i admit even I didn't get what was going on until i watched it a second time

    but this is one of what consider the "great"est (aka great high-emotional-impact ) eps of the series up there with abyss, prophecy, full circle, unnatural selection, forever in a day, and threads

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    Re: The Changeling (619)

    -Danny makes a good shrink. Why is it called 'Changeling'? Is it because Teal'c becomes a normal human for a while?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PugGate
    -Danny makes a good shrink. Why is it called 'Changeling'? Is it because Teal'c becomes a normal human for a while?
    Well, in Celtic mythology, a changeling is a child who is left by the faeries--they take one child and leave anither in its place. Now, normally the child taken is fair-haired, good, sunny, cheerful, etc., while the changeling is dark, wild, and edging towards evil, but I bet the switching aspect has a lot to do with the title.
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    Definitely agree - confusing episode. The review sums it up quite nicely

    "Every one in a while, an episode comes along that makes you stand back and wonder: what the heck just happened? For some, "The Changeling" was exactly that kind of episode"

    Still not quite sure what happened, will have to go back and rewatch it - although it's one of those few episodes that are better to be watched the second time than the first.

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    I liked the episode. I think the scenes of Daniel as the psychologist, were just in Teal'c's dream. But at the end, when Daniel has the v-neck sweater on, I think that is ascended Daniel.

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    You can analyse this episode as much as you like - and it is a cracking episode - but Jack as a fireman.... mmmmm nice! It does raise another issue though. Casual Daniel Jackson. V-neck sweater? Not quite as bad as Jack though when off duty - where does he get his clothes? See Window of opportunity when he snogs Sam.
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    I haven't seen this one, just read a (very poor) transcript. Was this one as weird as it sounded? I understand it was a bit esoteric, but there's a difference between esoteric and weird.

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    It's the kind of episode that needs to be watched. Then you can decide if it's your kind of weird

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeleine_W
    It's the kind of episode that needs to be watched. Then you can decide if it's your kind of weird
    It's definitely my kind of weird. It all gets terribly confusing as the episode progresses as to which 'real' is 'real' - indeed, are any of these reals real? I don't mind that, probably because it's meant to be that way and Teal'c is as bamboozled by it as I am.

    I'm intrigued by the way that Daniel makes an appearance. Given that, to Teal'c's mind, Daniel is an ascended being and therefore no longer 'upon this mortal coil', why would he include him in this other reality stuff?

    On the other hand, the last time he was put in this position, Teal'c relived episodes from his past - so it could be that he's doing something not too dissimilar again, therefore it's feasible that Daniel could appear in some form.

    But then - how much of it is down to Daniel personally? Is he stepping into Teal'c's dreamworld of his own volition? Or is he making use of the persona Teal'c's mind has created for him? I guess we'll never really know for sure.

    Plus I thought Jonas' pinny was quite cute.

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    You are so right, this ep was weird weird weird. The first time I saw it I was like "what's going on?" Jonas is wearing an apron even I wouldn't wear, they are calling him Probee, Teal'c is a normal guy instead of Mr. Indeed Jaffa Dude, oh, and then Shau'nac, Apophis and Daniel show up. I was intrigued within the first five minutes - I mean, it wasn't the usual open up with the team going through the event horizon.

    When they showed Teal'c and Bra'tac sharing a symbiote I was like whooooaaa.
    I also felt like I got to know Teal'c a bit more, even though most of it was a dream, you still see how his mind and emotions work. A rare and very cool glimpse into the world that is Teal'c.

    I thought it was a really cool ep, its one I go back and watch when I'm in the mood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhatFateAlmondRoca
    You are so right, this ep was weird weird weird. The first time I saw it I was like "what's going on?" Jonas is wearing an apron even I wouldn't wear, they are calling him Probee, Teal'c is a normal guy instead of Mr. Indeed Jaffa Dude, oh, and then Shau'nac, Apophis and Daniel show up. I was intrigued within the first five minutes - I mean, it wasn't the usual open up with the team going through the event horizon.

    When they showed Teal'c and Bra'tac sharing a symbiote I was like whooooaaa.
    I also felt like I got to know Teal'c a bit more, even though most of it was a dream, you still see how his mind and emotions work. A rare and very cool glimpse into the world that is Teal'c.

    I thought it was a really cool ep, its one I go back and watch when I'm in the mood.
    This is one of those episodes that I didn't fully appreciate when it first aired...but grew to appreciate after hearing the commentaries.

    First it was neat seeing the different family/friends of the SG-1 cast members as extras and whatnot. I'm a sucker for that kind of stuff.

    Second, it was neat seeing Teal'c be decidedly un-Teal'c-like.

    I found the reveal to be affective...but I agree with the commentary that it would have been cool to have a higher crane shot and a better transition to the next scene...but that's all technical stuff.

    I think Chris did a good job though and I'll add myself to the list of those who enjoyed this episode.

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    Chris wrote a really good episode. I liked how so many characters were involved in the storyline. I love the friendship bond between Teal'c and Jonas. I thought it was great the way Teal'c was sharing his symbiote with Bra'tac. And let me just say this - regardless of whether they're wearing blue or green BDU's with tight black t-shirts or dressed in a fireman's uniform the men of SG-1 are hot!

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    great episode i never understodd the episode untill i saw season 5 threshold then i got what was going on with the whole body/hallucinations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LuvsJonasQuinn
    And let me just say this - regardless of whether they're wearing blue or green BDU's with tight black t-shirts or dressed in a fireman's uniform the men of SG-1 are hot!
    Does that include a red gingham pinafore?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaka's_Mum
    Does that include a red gingham pinafore?
    But of course. Those dimples more than make up for the apron.

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    For me Tea;'c seems to get on episdoe a year and this was it and it was great the way the cut from one to the other, TPTB should be happy with the result i know i am!

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    This was a great episode and it showed that Daniel was always watching over all of his freinds and just sometimes he was able ot lend Teal'c a helping hand.
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    I liked this episode.........it was weird seeing tealc without the gold thing........and nice foreshadowing that DJ is doing a no-no by helping tealc (also helping jack kinda in abyss)

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    Just watched this episode again...I love the moment of realization that "AU/Dream Daniel" is actually Daniel, ascended - the "Hang in there, just a little while longer" line, and then cue the beautiful haunting piano melody first introduced with Daniel in "Abyss" - the entirety of it all gives me goose bumps. That last look that Daniel gives Teal'c on the bench means so much.

    It's such a beautifully written episode...kudos to Christopher Judge.

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    ARRGH! *beats head* *stomps foot* Again, again, again, I don't turn the tv on until 45 minutes into this episode! I seem destined to never see this episode in its entirety!
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