The Sci. & Tech. Concordance and Discussion Thread

[Seastallion]

jacob was right, we actually did just stick a USAF sticker and camo on the side of a death glider!

Don't forget the cool tail wings..!

Here's another...

[immhotep]

not to pick holes im enjoying this but, point?

[Seastallion]

not to pick holes im enjoying this but, point?

I'm just 'shooting the breeze', as this is also a discussion thread. No real 'point' per se, just throwing out random potential discussion topics. Sort of like 'nik-naks' in a house are often designed as 'conversation pieces', I'm just throwing out random things to provoke potential discussions. Or we could just say, "ooh, cool..!" That's okay too.

[immhotep]

i do have one thing that always bugged me about cargo ships, where the hell does the engine section fit? in TLC they have like this massive room that not actually there externally!
u have three parts to a teltak the cargo hold, the toilets and the main piloting/entrance/escape pod bit.

[Wraith Scientist]

I'm just 'shooting the breeze', as this is also a discussion thread. No real 'point' per se, just throwing out random potential discussion topics. Sort of like 'nik-naks' in a house are often designed as 'conversation pieces', I'm just throwing out random things to provoke potential discussions. Or we could just say, "ooh, cool..!" That's okay too.

Need a new discussion topic huh Seastallion?

Well, you seem to be into physics, so ...

• How about taking a stab at the physics of hyperdrives?
• Starship power sources?
• Energy weaponry?

[Seastallion]

i do have one thing that always bugged me about cargo ships, where the hell does the engine section fit? in TLC they have like this massive room that not actually there externally!
u have three parts to a teltak the cargo hold, the toilets and the main piloting/entrance/escape pod bit.

Well, keep in mind that the Tel'tak doesn't have a 'conventional' engine as such, rather it uses much the same 'Anti-Inertial Drive' that the Deathgliders and Ha'tak's use. The 'engine' is actually fitted all around the cargo hold section. The cargo hold, is just a space in the middle.

Here is a CGI work done by a guy called, grzegorz, that I found on another site. It certainly helps explain where things are in the ship.



He did quite well. The engine casing would be fit into the spaces around the rooms on the ship. The hyperdrive itself is probably housed in the cone up top.

[Seastallion]

Need a new discussion topic huh Seastallion?

Well, you seem to be into physics, so ...

• How about taking a stab at the physics of hyperdrives?
• Starship power sources?
• Energy weaponry?

Believe it or not, I already have..!

But, I suppose it could be a good thing to post those ideas in this thread rather than a bunch of seperate ones. Each of those topics deserve their own posts, so I won't put them in this one. Also, those posts will be rather large, because of the amount of writing it will take to explain it all. I'll also add images to help explain as much as I can.

[Wraith Scientist]

Island of stability

Hypothetical, stable, superheavy elements that exist due to odd preperties of the atomic nucleus.

Three hypothetically stable elements:

(atomic number) name - atomic weight

(114) ununquadium - 298
(120) unbinilium - 304
(126) unbihexium - 310

Interesting?

Sounds suspiciously like naquadah to me ...

[Seastallion]

Island of stability

Hypothetical, stable, superheavy elements that exist due to odd preperties of the atomic nucleus.

Three hypothetically stable elements:

(atomic number) name - atomic weight

(114) ununquadium - 298
(120) unbinilium - 304
(126) unbihexium - 310

Interesting?

Sounds suspiciously like naquadah to me ...

Sweet..! I've actually heard of the first one before. The other two are very cool too..! It makes one wonder, what sort of properties do they have? Then there are the 'new' elements based on the new 'super-atoms'. Molecular collections of atoms of the same element, that can be used as building blocks in the same way that 'normal' atoms can be. Those are new, and they are talking about needing to build a whole new Periodic chart to add in the new 'super-atoms', and possibly a new chemistry too.

[Wraith Scientist]

Sweet..! I've actually heard of the first one before. The other two are very cool too..! It makes one wonder, what sort of properties do they have? Then there are the 'new' elements based on the new 'super-atoms'. Molecular collections of atoms of the same element, that can be used as building blocks in the same way that 'normal' atoms can be. Those are new, and they are talking about needing to build a whole new Periodic chart to add in the new 'super-atoms', and possibly a new chemistry too.

Extended periodic table

Here's something weirder:
Strange matter
Quark star

Ah yes, 'superatoms', most interesting ...

[Seastallion]

Extended periodic table

Here's something weirder:
Strange matter
Quark star

Ah yes, 'superatoms', most interesting ...

All true 'S&T' Gaters, have gotta love this stuff..! It is the fringe of our 'known' science that the 'world' of Stargate exists..! The unkown is always the most interesting. That is why people the world over love a good mystery, and we are fascinated by exploits of exploration. Lewis and Clark weren't famous for paddling boats down rivers, and riding horses...

Keep the cool stuff coming..! It could help give us new ideas for how the 'technology' of Stargate might work. I'm always game for that.

[Wraith Scientist]

There's a PDF here about parallel universes and the multiverse. There was a similar article in Scientific American a while back.
Looks interesting ...

A wiki article about the multiverse
A wiki article about quantum immortality

I wonder if it would be possible to somehow travel to an alternate universe (assuming you have massive amounts of power and technology at your disposal). How much energy density would you need to tear open the fabric of space-time?

[Seastallion]

There's a PDF here about parallel universes and the multiverse. There was a similar article in Scientific American a while back.
Looks interesting ...

A wiki article about the multiverse
A wiki article about quantum immortality

I wonder if it would be possible to somehow travel to an alternate universe (assuming you have massive amounts of power and technology at your disposal). How much energy density would you need to tear open the fabric of space-time?

It probably depends on just how 'deep' your trying to go. To a sub-space layer, just 'beneath' normal space, or a completely different space-time dimension? The question of energy requirement, hinges heavily on those considerations. I have a theory that the moon (or even smaller objects) possess enough potential gravimetric energy to open a hyperspace window; the only problem is that gravity in its natural state is diluted over a large area of space. If that potential were to be concentrated at a single point, rather than a huge area, it may be enough to 'tear' through the fabric of space-time, into hyperspace (or sub-space if you prefer that term... ).


You were wondering about my theories on how hyperdrives might work?? Well, you just heard some of it...

[Wraith Scientist]

I have a theory that the moon (or even smaller objects) possess enough potential gravimetric energy to open a hyperspace window; the only problem is that gravity in its natural state is diluted over a large area of space. If that potential were to be concentrated at a single point, rather than a huge area, it may be enough to 'tear' through the fabric of space-time

You mean a black hole?

Yeah, I came to much the same conclusions - ripping open space-time by concentrating lots of energy in a small space. Problem is that you'd probably get a black hole, which then kills you. However, if you pour energy into the black hole fast enough, you might be able to keep the space-time rupture 'open' before it collapses into a short-lived micro black hole (which explodes a few milliseconds later).

We need a theory of everything

BTW, I prefer 'slipspace' (I'm a Halo fan)

[Seastallion]

You mean a black hole?

Yeah, I came to much the same conclusions - ripping open space-time by concentrating lots of energy in a small space. Problem is that you'd probably get a black hole, which then kills you. However, if you pour energy into the black hole fast enough, you might be able to keep the space-time rupture 'open' before it collapses into a short-lived micro black hole (which explodes a few milliseconds later).

We need a theory of everything

BTW, I prefer 'slipspace' (I'm a Halo fan)

Naw, I would think that a black-holes gravimetric energy is just so great, that it goes beyond sub-space and just rips itself right into another dimension altogether. That is why you can't open a hyperspace window near a black-hole. It's too unstable an area to do so, ergo you have to get far enough away to do it safely. A hyperspace window is a 'sort' of singularity and it probably does have similiar characteristics with that of blach-holes, but not so intense, nor so permanent. Instead of being ripped to pieces by the gravity forces, your just pulled into a hyperspace corridor inside of subspace. At the moment you turn off your hyperdrive, the physical matter of your ship pulls you out of subspace, because the ship can not stay in subspace without the gravitational distortions generated by the hyperdrive engines. For one thing, the gravitational distortions are being generated by your ship, NOT the singularity itself. It is just an effect of the manipulated forces your using. In some ways it works opposite of that of a black-hole.