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    First Lieutenant Selmak's Avatar
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    Malek was kind of a coward... leaving Bra'tac.

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    Too Predictable?

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    I agree, he was a bit of a coward, but how would he fight the invisible guy?

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    He could have shot at the thing dragging Bra'tac... not run away... Teal'c was right to rough him up a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selmak
    He could have shot at the thing dragging Bra'tac... not run away... Teal'c was right to rough him up a bit.
    I agree, he could have tried harder, and I liked how it was only Selmak that convinced Teal'c to let him go.

    I also liked how Jack said to Bra'tac and Jacob, basically I'm gonna need every bit of influence you both have.

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    What? You mean you think that Tok'ra should have risked HIMSELF? No There were plenty of Tauri and Jaffa Rebels left for him to go get.
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    OK, is it just me or is Bratac a ZATARC!?

    Seriously. An Ashrak left him for dead? You mean the nearly unstoppable super-assassins who kill Jaffa by stabbing them through their symbiote and their heart? We're supposed to believe that he was so incompetently sloppy that he didn't make absolutely sure that when he had one of the leaders of the Jaffa rebellion at his mercy, that he was really dead?

    Consider all the reminders we got in this episode about the existence of Zatarcs, how they're made, etc. We see the Zatarc detector. They use the phrase "Divide and conquer" (the title of the episode where Zatarcs were introduced) pointedly.

    And then Bratac comes limping back to save the day, but he's not even really that badly hurt (his symbiote probably helped to heal him, but the Ashrak would have known that!) and nobody's even a little suspicious?

    Either Bratac is a zatarc, or it's the sloppiest writing ever. And I don't buy sloppy writing any more than I buy sloppy assassination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bcmilco
    Yes, did you notice, in that scene, that we hear all the *zat pops up* sounds, but if you look only a couple of the zats are actually in the 'up' possition.
    The problem there is with the cost of props that actually work. There are only a few available, the rest are just for show.

    Apart from that, a good ep., IMO.
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    this was a really good ep but the only strange thing about it was that a title used in the fourth season (divide and conquer) would be far more suited.

    Jack had said this in this ep and thats what got me thinking

    mind you it might be some consious tribute to the last time we seen the zanex (lol za'tarc) detector used

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    Quite a nifty little episode. Foreshadows Death Knell nicely.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Major Fischer
    Quite a nifty little episode. Foreshadows Death Knell nicely.
    Indeed it does. Although, just by seeing this episode, I don't think anyone could imagine us and the Tok'ra going to blows.

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    Eh. This episode bored me.

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    The first time I saw this I thought Bra'tak might actually be a goner. I agree, Malek could have done *something* other than run off and save his own bacon. Of course, the Tokra are always quick to write people off--in contrast to humans (SGC) who don't like to leave anyone behind. I liked how Jack told Tealc "stop" in this half-hearted way when T was strangling Malek.

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    I like the episode because of all the things mentioned so far. I also believe that this is the first one that Jonas only had one scene in.

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    i think this i possible the best non- major plot episode ever. its got everything, action, culture, jaffa, tokra, goauld, carters technichal bits. The characters are great, you get the tokra and jaffa and why they hate each other( something thats kinda bugged me since they want the same thing). you get the tokra doing their whole science and subtifuge thing and the jaffa (bratack) showing off thier skill as warriors. you get politics and ethics from all side. and you get to see how cool both/ all side look when the do the fight scene, i love how they get thier weopens out, kinda sums both races up.
    its great to see the humans not being the centre of attention(they should do a non human spin off,(sorry all you humaniods) i just think if there wernt humans mucking thing up then the alien race of the universe would make graet plots on their own). although they seem in charge, oneil admit he need all of them. in my opinion this episode sybolises the entire war with the goauldm it not going to be possible if everybody fights amounst themselves. the speach at the end by bratak is one of the best writers have come up with.
    in a pole this would be up there with all the season finales past and present for shere genius. in one episode everything i love about stargate i involved in a giant metaphor for stargate SG-1.
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    Default Re: Allegiance (609)

    can someone reply!

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    to what? You didn't ask any question that I could tell.

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    well could u have an opinion on it then?

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    So why was it safer to Jonas to stay at the SGC? That was lazy writing IMO.

    In fact Jonas being left out of it so lamely nearly spoilt it! Daniel Jackson would have gone with them.

    Great episode but the fact Bra'tac wasnt killed was a bit stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yu`
    So why was it safer to Jonas to stay at the SGC? That was lazy writing IMO.

    In fact Jonas being left out of it so lamely nearly spoilt it! Daniel Jackson would have gone with them.

    Great episode but the fact Bra'tac wasnt killed was a bit stupid.
    Jonas wasn't in this episode as if I remember right from what I read somewhere - the actor Corin Nemec was getting married or was otherwise engaged with something else. The writers then decided to write him out - and when watching the episode I can't see where he could have fitted into the story really, as most of SG-1 had their own tasks to complete.

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