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    Quote Originally Posted by Hohenzollern
    So Anubis cannot leave/depart a frozen corpse or did he perhaps die with the Russian?
    Actually, I see no reason why Anubis couldn't just ghost off from the frozen world. He can pass through solid objects, so even if the Russian was flash frozen, he'd still be able to escape.

    And ya gotta figure that the Ancients can't be everywhere at once. What reason would they have for keeping an eye on some remote frozen wasteland? Nothing is likely to happen there...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowMaat
    I like Alisen Down, but Dr. Brightman came across as very flat in this ep. I think the heavy makeup job was to make her look older 'cause Alisen is very young-looking. I'd have to go back and rewatch Fraiser's first ep, but I think she was at least allowed to express SOME personality traits...

    Brightman needs some quirks. Something to humanize her.
    I think TPTB are wise in introducing Dr. Brightman slowly and letting us warm up to her. Replacing any much loved person (or fictional character), especially one who died in the line of duty, has to be difficult. The replacement keeps her head down (figuratively), learns the situation and the people, acts completely professional, then, over time, asserts her own personality.

    Dr. Brightman/Down has a lot to live up to, a pretty daunting task.
    I'm more than willing to give her time and see what develops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slainte
    The replacement keeps her head down (figuratively), learns the situation and the people, acts completely professional, then, over time, asserts her own personality.
    We know that time-wise it has already been at LEAST a few months- likely more. She should have an established personality (within the context of the story) by now.

    As for "asserting" one's self... Jonas did a pretty good job of establishing himself right off the bat and it would seem to me that if you want a character to be "accepted" then you should try and at least throw viewers a bone- something they can latch onto and say, "Hey, that's pretty cool of him/her." I'm not saying it should be shoved down our throats (which seems to be the usual tactic), but just a little something might be nice... something that can be built upon later.

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    Anubis can probably, almost definately leave the frozen body. But trying to fly away from the planet without using his ascended powers... he didn't travel very fast so it would take a LONG time

    Loved this ep, I was shouting for Anubis to escape in the end, because I didn't know if he would or not. Then of course Sam mentioned the planet she sent him to...

    And Luke got pissy over having the wrong spuds

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowMaat
    We know that time-wise it has already been at LEAST a few months- likely more. She should have an established personality (within the context of the story) by now.
    We don't know when she was assigned. Even though Janet's been gone for a while her permanent replacement may not have arrived on post until quite recently.

    I still think TPTB are smart to let us get to know Dr. Brightman slowly. She may never interact with SG-1 like Janet. Dr. Brightman may be more like the male doctor, Dr. Warner, and we may not see as much of her as we did Janet. Time will tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teal'c
    Anubis can probably, almost definately leave the frozen body. But trying to fly away from the planet without using his ascended powers... he didn't travel very fast so it would take a LONG time
    What I'm saying is, he could maybe use his ascended powers without the Ancients knowing it. They can't be EVERYWHERE at once, and some dead-end snowball in the middle of nowhere isn't likely to be high on their list of priority locations. Unless they go all "I feel a disturbance in the Force..." and blink instantly to the location. I think Anubis might have a bit of leeway. That was far too easy an end for him.

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    Brightman wasn't bad, really. She can hopefully grow into the job, but that depends on how much they write for her. She was stiff, but as it progressed I thought she loosened up enough for me to think she'll continue to improve as Doc. She has big shoes to fill.

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    Yeah, it would take Anubis a long time to travel, with his powers it can be pretty fast within seconds I guess

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    Why didn't Anubis go for the BC-303?

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    Joe Mallozzi's production notes are now up at:

    http://www.gateworld.net/sg1/s8/making/803.shtml

    Interesting that he originally planned to send Anubis to a fiery planet, rather than a frozen one. I think they made the right choice, loved the image of poor Russian guy standing like a popsicle on the planet.
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    In general I liked "Lockdown" quite a bit and they managed to produce a standalone episode that still tied in to the Anubis arc. Definitely think we haven't seen the last of Anubis. Which amazingly doesn't both me much -- I liked him better as the dark "essence" than in his Darth Vader costume!

    * I like seeing Jack adjust to the General role and as I hoped, he seems to be toning down the cosmic giddiness a bit without losing his sarcastic edge. Nice to see him try and outwit Anubis, showing his abilities as a competent leader.

    * Liked the pacing of the episode. I already knew the twist (which was pretty well telegraphed in the opening sequence anyway), but Anubis jumping from person to person kept up the tension and we got to see Daniel being shot by all his team members and kickbut Sam in action. Jack got a lot of action and Teal'c got lines!

    * Liked the team scenes and the humor. The group stuff was just enough to let us know that Jack and SG-1 are still a team in spirit if not in reality. Nice scene at the beginning and the "who shot me" scene was very funny with everyone rolling their eyes trying to avoid Daniel's question.

    * Russian guy was a nice guest star and they managed to make him a sympathetic character (especially in his scenes with Daniel) so that we cared about his noble actions at the end.

    There were some nits, already covered by everyone else. I'm still not sure about all the ascended rules. They seem to come and go as it's convenient. The new doc didn't have much personality but maybe they're just introducing the character slowly (verrryy slowly). Russian guy rising from his deathbed and making it to the gateroom without being stopped. Oh well, plot contrivances aside, I had fun watching it!.
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    I was reading the production notes earlier. They're good

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    It was a good episode. Much more Jack in it than I thought that there would be. I actually thought it was a pretty good team episode even though Jack's not really part of the team anymore. I loved when Daniel woke up and asked who shot him. They looks that the other 3 exhanged were priceless. Eveyone got whumped in this one. Exept Teal'c that is. As for the doctor she was alright. She performed her function. TPTB probably don't expect her to take right away after how popular Janet was. I was kind of hoping that the Ancients would show up and kick some Anubis arse but the end was pretty good anyway. So if I understood the show right Anubis could leave the frozen Russians body and that frozen ice planet but he would be drawing the wrath of the Ancients on him right? I was a little fuzzy on that part.

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    I'm glad to hear there was a decent dose of Jack. I'm sure for the first three or four eps there will be quite a bit of him and it will start slowing a bit soon!

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    Loved the episode, it had me guessing for a large portion of it. I liked all the team interaction and all the humour of it all. It was thoroughly entertaining and even though I had read reports after it aired it did not dampen my enthusiasism.

    2 for 2 this season, good job.

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    I loved the episode, and kept me giggling. My only nitpick was that the new doc had NO insignia on her uniform. Wearing a military dress uniform with no rank, and she's a doc? Don't think so. Someone fell asleep on the job! (Sorry, I'm military myself, so was curious, and then bugged about it. )

    Poor Vaselov, shot down by Jack. Of course, he didn't seem to realize that he just needed the training before getting on an off-world team...

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    I liked Vaselov. I liked him alot, too bad the way he left the show.

    And Brianamarie: It wasn't Vaselov that wanted to go offworld. It was Anubis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DownFallAngel
    DId anyone have the Ghostbusters theme running through their head while this was going?

    Also, what happened to Patient Doctor Confidentiality(SP?)? I mean come on, that doctor was treating Vascofk and she just went and blabbed it to Sam, who blabbed it to Daniel, as he was dying! I understand if she told Jack(Brightman-->Jack), but come on..Sam!? She is an f-ing physasyst!
    There's no such thing as patient/doctor confidentiality in the military. Sam was a superior officer to the doc and was working on a problem that affected the base. She had an absolute right to any pertinent information that the doctor had.

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    I'm glad the new doctor has been welcomed. Look forward to watching her!

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    I liked this episode, definitely more than NO. For one thing, it moved and had some real tension: you actually believed that the people at the base were worried and cared about what was going on (unlike the "Jack's frozen, ho hum" feeling of last week). I thought Jack is finding his feet as a General well (and I like that they gave a reason for his not wanting the Russian on SG-1 or any team at this time. And, yes, Jack *is* an "equal opportunity offender"--one of the reasons why I think that the Asgard don't have a problem with "little gray butts"; they know he talks to everyone that way!).

    The previous posts on this thread have already pretty thoroughly covered a lot of the best parts of the ep and some of the questions ("KS" ????), but I did have a couple of problems I don't think I saw mentioned (I apologize if I missed them):


    * How did Daniel know, almost at the end, that Anubis was on his way to the gateroom? He didn't seem to know that Anubis was inside Jack, or you assume he would have told Sam and Teal'c. So, what told him?

    * The zats: their effect suddenly seems very inconsistent. Neither Jack nor Daniel seemed to be completely knocked out and both came around almost immediately, while Sam and some of the guards remained out cold. Pick one version of what a zat does and stick to it!


    About the end: I think that Anubis is stuck. My impression was that this was *not* an inhabited world and he would have no one to jump to. On his own--assuming that there *is* a DHD there somewhere--he would be unable to dig the DHD out, clear away any ice or operate it. He might be able to do something if he used his powers, but that would bring the Others down on him immediately. (I'm also assuming that this planet was not on the Abydos cartouche, so a visit from the Goa'uld, especially as it appears so uninviting, would be unlikely.)


    One interesting note: Jack and the planetary designations. They've given us evidence in the past that Jack doesn't "remember" the designations when he doesn't have to. Yet, in "2010", for example, he not only remembered that the designation in the note was one he had seen before, but he remembered it from an entire list of designations (and all of places to which they had not yet gone). Here, he knew exactly which world KSblah-blah was. Guess the general can't play some of the same games as the colonel.

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