Thus far this episode is THE episode to beat this season. For those that havent been spoiler ho's it will be a nice ride!!
AWESOME EP!!! And definitely much better than anything since "critical mass" (err not grace under pressure)
It was a really good episode and in a sense was a team episode... Well, kinda.Originally Posted by TOA
Anyway, right now I'm not in the best of moods, so my full and actual review will come later.
In the infinite expanse that we occupy, whose to say that something's impossible?
this seemed like it would be a good ep from the spoilers. Any1 seen it that will give a review please?
Ok so here goes...
The episode is great - as in it actually works unlike many of the episodes post "lost boys". The sets are good to excellent, and the genii are all genii like.
I would say this episode is the best one since Critical Mass and in some ways is a better story.
Mini Summery is as follows:
- One of the off world teams is under fire on a planet which was being assisted by an Earth agriculture specialist.
John & the gang go in to get them out, but only the lone scientist is left. The house they had been in is burned out. Upon investigation they find the other team dead in the house.
They bring the bodies back and then the gate activates "Unscheduled off world activation" (everyone drink 2 shots) and when no idc (2 more for prosperity) is sent the gate guy realizes that a narrow band UHF signal with audio video is present.
Up pops genii scientist guy, and proposes a trade for a new ZPM in exchange for some light weapons. He explains he wants to get the genii leader (colm Meeney - cant remember his characters name). After much hestiation they split Johns team - Teyla and the big R go off in search of answers for the dead team members and John & Mckay go grab scientist guy.
Back on the poor planet Teyla and Ronon investigate the villagers and realize they are all acting really strangely - very guarded. When they press a bartender (everyone drink) he states they are being watched and wont talk.
They start back to the gate when the bartenders wife/daughter/friend/employee... approaches and "returns Teylas lost pouch"
Upon investigation they realize that it contains photos of the missing atlantis team members along with John & Mckay. Hmmmmmm.... Fishy....
Meanwhile Weir and John decide to follow the better the devil you know method - so they goto the Genii home world and warn Colm Meeney. He lets them go.
Upon return they scout the planet where genii scientist guy is and realize that Colm was accurate so they decide to take the trade, but trick the scientist guy to steal back their zpm.(thinking its the one from the brotherhood) (Remember: My Name is Earl : Karma!!!)
They grab 12 genii prisoners while they trick and trade with the scientist guy.
Its realized that all the genii prisoners (which I forgot to mention above prior to going to the planet) all have some type of cancer from poor sheilding used on Genii nuclear weapons. Beckett realizes he can save 8 or so of the 12 prisoners, including scientist guys somewhat attractive younger sister.. Hmmm I wonder when she'll be back...... (see season 3 for details NEWAYS..
Beckett starts the healing thing.
So John goes off with Mckay and some others (knowing Mckay is super soldier) to take out the remaining few genii on the planet. The capture them all but when they surround scientist guy in a small warehouse he hits them with knock out gas... leading to:
Back on atlantis we now know that the missing people arent dead just missing. And the photos were actually "wanted: big reward" - we are also told (obvious point) that all the folks in the photos have the ATA gene.
They cant get hold of john (hes been nocked out after all). And weir starts worrying.
John wakes up and lo and behold Colm is there. They explain they want puddle jumpers... So using Johns walkie talky they contact were and say they want all the PJ's. Then Johns takin to the cell where all the others are - including Mckay and the presumed dead team members.
John tells scientist guy that the pj's are useless to the genii because they dont have the gene. Scientist guy has been drawing samples from all the atlantis folks and is actively working on gene therapy for the genii. (hmm I wonder if this will crop up in season 3.....)
In either case Weir refuses so Colm orders scientist guy to kill John. John explains Beckett can save scientist guys sister, so scientist guy orders John free.
Turns out he really was planning a coup. Theres a nuke under the building and scientist guy was using John & the earthers all the time to trick Colm into a trap and be able to kill all those oposing him.
They escape - Colm is nuked, Kolya is missing (the whole episode... too bad I liked him), Scientist guy is reunited with his sister (who had a TOOMAR).
The lantian's (ie earth folks) agree to help the new genii leader heal all those aflicted with radiation poisoning provided their are no further deaths (which apparently there arent).
Oh the ZPM was actually found on the Genii homeworld in their archives... Its depleted.. <SIGH>
Overall a great episode and a nice lead in to the final 3.
Next monday: Michael.!!!
There is one thing that I found odd... It was the only thing that bugged me about the episode.... What was with the new uniforms for Cowen and his guard? Did he really go power-hungry or was that part of the coup/not-coup/coup?
In the infinite expanse that we occupy, whose to say that something's impossible?
Thank you for the summary! It does sound really good, and like it had a lot of opportunity for some Sheppard-McKay banter.
TOA you call that a mini summary?
thanks for the summary.
especially after his little fight in the hiveOriginally Posted by TOASpoiler:
Yes the episode was awsome.
Originally Posted by Taonas
I honestly think that scientist guy was honest about that. It really seems that the genii as individuals still have a decent moral center, but it also appears that the old addage of "power corrupts" is true.
At this point excepting that one culture protected by the wraith the genii are the most advanced surviving culture in pegasus. Almost all the others (excluding Ronons, which are now gone) are agrarian(farmers) and not industrial. This is a substantial disadvantage compared to a post-industrial dictatorship such as the genii.
Cowens government was undoubtably untrustworthy. They had absolutely no morals - basically they would destroy anyone and anything in order to obtain their goal. The fact that Cowan was so concerned about getting puddle jumpers really makes you wonder. If Earth had utilized even non-ancient technology they could have wiped the genii out without a problem. (ie Daedalues or Prometheus could wipe out the planet from orbit) Yet we havent. The Genii are really the counter balance to earth in this case, and are really there to show just what could happen in cases where immature cultures advance technologically more quickly than socially. To quote the Asgard - The Genii "are simply much too young" to be out and about in the galaxy.
Lol you should have seen my last one - it was like 5 pages...Originally Posted by SmallTimePerson
Mini - all in the eye of the beholder
BTW: Sorry no Mckay / John fighting -- err well not alot anyways... Inleast not to the major level that it occasionally gets to.. A little bit though..
thanks for the reviews... you guys are great for me... i am a spoiler nut!!!
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I liked it. I admit I have been somewhat disappointed in the this season, but this brought back the joy of watching SGA. It had my hold throughout the whole episode and was actually a really good one... There really was no over bearing character, that I was ready to shot 5 minutes into the show, even McKay was toned down abit... It was nice to see an old foe and to see how that relationship has developed off screen.
All in all, I give it 3 3/4 stars out of 5.
it was a good episode, not the best one that was critical mass
but certainly one of the best eps of the season (there weren't many good ones)
nice to see chief o'brian again
has kolya really disappeared?
also nice to see ladon, a minor character from the storm/eye again, in expanded role.
I loved this episode! The quality of SGA has finally returned with the last two episodes... I couldn't be more excited
it worked out from the beginning to the end and - although it was somehow predictable - left you wanting more...
I really like the team episodes where everybody gets about equally as much screen time. They are a team and they compliment each other. TPTB should really use that more often.
And although I really love McKay, it stands out that all the good episodes this season (IMHO) weren't exactly McKay centered. That oughta tell me something...
I'll have to go back and watch the episode again, but these were the moments that stood out to me:
- Sheppard's attitude when Ladon calls him an errand boy. That was hilarious. (-->"It's Lieutenant Colonel errand boy to you, Ladon")
- McKay being in the "strike team"
- Major Lorne hasn't been red-shirted yet
- Sheppard telling McKay that he'd tell Cowen to kill McKay and let himself go in case they were captured...
Can't think of any more right now, but I'm still amazed...
*Sig by the wonderful and talented Pegasus_SGA*
It was ok
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yep...I concur..everything is again right with the universe. An episode that brought it all back to the way it's supposed to be, in my opinion. This episode certainly going to keep me happy all week.....
I thought this one was great. I'm a big sucker for the Genii, though, so I was just happy to see a story with them! They caught me off guard with the fake-coup-is-really-a-real-coup thing. The fallout from this one will definitely be interesting, though. Now that Leyden's in charge (and has at least outwardly shown a truce with the Lanteans) could they eventually have a new ally? I mean, at least, for the meantime, Atlantis has some of the Genii and I don't see Leyden sacrificing the sister he was so determined to save by aggravating the Lanteans. Or will things go south when the Genii people return home? Leyden came across to me as pretty genuine in the end there.
And visual symbolism got me wondering... I did notice that Weir dressed primarily in black this episode, with only her normal red shirt underneath. The writers, Torri, they've all been talking about Liz's change to a "darker" side. Is the black clothes an outward symbol of that change? From a Weir character standpoint, this episode was BIG. I mean, it was so blink-and-you'll-miss-it that I didn't even realize it til after the episode ended. But she loudly threatened war. Liz. Threatened war. She never would have done that a season ago, with all her ideals of peace and negotiation. Definitely getting darker for her.
Damn that was fun!
A nice, tight story, that actually held together from begining to end (instead of loosing the plot somewhere around the middle like previous episodes) with some great team banter, and a decent role for Teyla and Ronon. Leyden is an interesting character, it'll be interesting to see if he returns and gets fleshed out a little more. Weir was definately more proactive this episode, from her "go get us a ZPM" greenlight to McKay and Shep, to her (as xfkirsten said) threat of outright war against the Genii. Go Weir!
The sets were rather spiffy, especially parts to the warehouse, and some great aging on that Genii tunnel. The village exterior looked like a redress of the village from SG-1's "Ties That Bind".
- Poor TechChuck still doesn't have a name *pets him*
- The "wanted posters" were very cute
- Yay team TR! Out there doing their good cop /bad cop shtick
- Ronan getting a little snarky with Dr...
- Damn, Beckett looks fine in scrubs...
- And Weir looked lovely in the red shirt/plain black jacket combo.
- Not to mention Teyla's fetching new outfit, blue is a lovely colour on her.
- Looks like McKay has pulled Shep into his GTZPM tendencies, they were both so little-kid excited when explaining their plan to Weir
- Shep gets a nice headshot on his wanted poster, but McKay is all unflatteringly squinty - poor thing LOL
- SWAT McKay was hilarious, he was trying so hard. His immediate drop-to-knees and faceplant-the-concrete when gassed was great too
- Sheppard's "Shield up" *BOOM*, was very spiffy
Leyden : "...I have defected from the Genii."
Weir: "Well, good luck with that."
McKay: "We might even be able to light up the engines, and get the city to fly."
McKay: "Well, no... but we still need it."
"...How stupid do you think I am?"
Shep (channelling Mal Reynolds): "From what I remember, I gave you a pretty good crack on the head last time we met, guess I was kinda hoping it made you simple."
Leyden : "No, it didn't... but ever since then I've been plagued with headaches."
Shep: "Aww, you're just sayin' that to be nice..."
Leyden : "I'm not interested in talking to the errand boy."
Shep: "That's Lt Colonel Errand Boy, to you."
Shep outlines his raid plan to Weir,
Weir: "Good thinking."
Shep: "Coulda been Mensa."
The whole "I'll bargain your life for mine" exchange between Shep and McKay LMAO
McKay: "See how I almost stunned that guy?"
Shep: "Must've missed it"
McKay: "Yeah, but if he was just a step to the right I'd've stunned him for sure!"
McKay:"One tango, middle of the room"
Shep: *blank stare*
McKay:"What, isn't that right?"
Shep: *Eyebrow Of Doom*
McKay: "We in some sort of trouble?
Shep: "Was it the gas or the prison cell that was your first clue?"
Last edited by Cynicat; January 10th, 2006 at 03:16 PM.