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    Jonas The matter of Jonas

    Hi I'm a long time lurker, bu my first post.

    okay one thing I actually miss is Jonas. he was swept aside so suddenly and he really has'nt come back per se.

    But what bugs me is as time goes by and watching old eps is that they obviously had a plan for Jonas. He was "different" somehow it was alluded, even Gou'ld's said as much. I was thinking possibly he was a advanced in some way, closer to ascending maybe? Some hybrid? Maybe he had ancient DNA and they were they planning on spinning him off to be part of Atlantis? (that's my guess)

    Anyway, They were clearly spiraling it up to be a plotline in the future and then - Daniel came back and Jonas was gone. It's been a couple years now, I thought maybe we'd see something come of it, but nada. WTF?

    Does anyone know what the deal was and why it has been shoved aside? Was Corin Nemec fired some reason and thus the storyline was axed?

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    the main reason, or so i believe, was when MS returned TPTB believed Daniel and Jonas were too similar and so there was only room for one of them in the show, so Jonas was taken out of the show. Personally I thought he was great and would have liked to have him round for longer, but nevermind He may come back at some point.

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    yeah see thats the thing, if it were me I would have at very least 'assigned" him to a another SG team and maybe he popped up time to time, hanging out with the guys for lunch or popping by to say hi, but kept him in the fringe at least.

    I really really think they were gonna send him to atlantis. I think he might have had ancient DNA since they hinted there was something different about him on molecular level.

    Still sucks, I miss Jonas he was kinda fun. Not saying It wasn't nice to have daniel back, but i think there was room for both in some way.

    (BTw I freaking hate this season, and nothign to do with Ben, I love ben to bits. I hate the whole Ori thang. I can barely pay attention to the show anymore bouncing in my seat waiting for BSG now.)

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    It's funny
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    Oh and nobody from the other realities misses jonas either

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    Is he in Ripple Effect? I dont think so, but you never know
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    Jonas was given an arc because TPTB planned to spin him off to Atlantis. But then Stargate got renewed- again- so Atlantis was held off for a year, meaning there was nowhere to put him and with Shanks coming back there was no reason to keep Corin around so they booted Jonas back to Kelowna, allowed Corin to write and appear in one ep of S7 to fulfill contractual obligations and that's the end of it. *shrug*

    According to Joe, Jonas is "very busy" with matters on his own planet and that's why we haven't seen him. IF the "right story comes along" and IF Corin is "available" then we MAY see him again, but after all this time and given that I think Greenberg said he would never appear on the show again, I find it highly doubtful that Jonas's story will ever be concluded. As wish many other characters and storylines, he was abandoned for something shinier and more sensational.

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    I'll probably get eaten alive by Jonas fans for this, but its such a comedy picture:

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    Well, hippie, unfortunately that's pretty dead-on accurate to what happened. Booted through the gate or booted through the airlock, the result is the same: No more Jonas. EVER.

    The only difference is that with Jonas on Kelowna/Langara, technically he's still alive. But since we're never going to see him, he may as well be dead.

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    They really should have included Jonas in Ripple Effect. S9 Ripple Effect
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    If an Alterante SG-1 that Included Ole Doc Fraiser (dead for two years) and Martoof (dead for five years) is close enough to our reality that they could apear, then One with Jonas still on the team could also have shown up. This would have been the prefect opertunity to bring him back and apease the fans. after all, that's the only reason the brought back Fraiser and Martoof, to apeas their fans who have missed them.
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    First of all, Griff, you'd better spoiler warn that post of yours. And second, no matter how many different ways TPTB find to bring back certain characters to "appease" fans- whether it be AUs, flashbacks, time travel, clones, robot doubles, Replicators, hallucinations, dreams, mind probes or whatever else, they'll never include Jonas. I don't know what happened, but I think it's pretty clear that he's never setting foot on the show again.

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    i think i killed Jonas when he was coming through the gate.....

    I was too slow opening the Iris...

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    I'd love to see Jonas come back, even if its just another guest star appearance. Personally he and Daniel are very different and I think they make a good team. But then how often do the hot shots than run things listen to fans? And from what I've seen surfing the web a lot of the Jackson fan clubs wouldn't protest big time if his name was mentioned on the show again.
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    I am very glad Daniel came back *but* at the same time I thought they treated Jonas horribly. There was no reason for him to be kicked out like that, never to be seen again (except for one guest spot). I think the idea of him being sent to Atlantis would be an incredible idea.

    Bottom line, I missed Daniel immensely, but I think Jonas had a place in the scheme of the story too.
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    I don't know why they didn't S9 Ripple Effect
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    bring Jonas back for this episode. It would have been a perfect opportunity. I am not a fan of S7. My favourite episodes are Fallen/Homecoming (Daniel comes back, Daniel and Jonas together - fantastic stuff), and Fallout


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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowMaat
    Well, hippie, unfortunately that's pretty dead-on accurate to what happened. Booted through the gate or booted through the airlock, the result is the same: No more Jonas. EVER.

    The only difference is that with Jonas on Kelowna/Langara, technically he's still alive. But since we're never going to see him, he may as well be dead.
    Shame they got rid of such a promising character.

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    He should come back to warn SGC that the Ori have targeted Kelowna.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glitzgal
    I am very glad Daniel came back *but* at the same time I thought they treated Jonas horribly. There was no reason for him to be kicked out like that, never to be seen again (except for one guest spot). I think the idea of him being sent to Atlantis would be an incredible idea.

    Bottom line, I missed Daniel immensely, but I think Jonas had a place in the scheme of the story too.
    How was Jonas treated horribly? Cripes, his character walked out on good terms, and eegads, alive yet! Most characters get blown to bits.

    However, as fans we have no idea of contract negotiations, etc. so at most we can do is speculate wildly. If TPTB decide to bring Jonas back and if CN is available, then we could see Jonas. Until then, it's just like Jack: fanfic can fill the void.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glitzgal
    I am very glad Daniel came back *but* at the same time I thought they treated Jonas horribly. There was no reason for him to be kicked out like that, never to be seen again (except for one guest spot). I think the idea of him being sent to Atlantis would be an incredible idea.

    Bottom line, I missed Daniel immensely, but I think Jonas had a place in the scheme of the story too.
    I agree

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    I'd have liked to see Jonas be a recurring character of sorts, but that became extremely limited when they sent him back to Kewlona and played out the Naquadria arc.
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    Yeah, it would be nice to see Jonas again, but his problem was that he wasn't on Farscape--if he was he would at least be a general by now on Stargate.
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