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    GateWorld Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part 2 (113)

    Visit the Episode GuideGALACTICA SEASON ONE
    KOBOL'S LAST GLEAMING, PART 2
    EPISODE NUMBER - 113

    Adama attempts to forcibly remove Roslin from office, and presses forward in his plans to destroy the Base Ship orbiting Kobol. Starbuck successfully returns to Caprica.

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    Default Re: Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part 2 (113)

    This episode contains what is probably my favorite scene in all of television.

    "Life has a melody, Gaius..."

    Oh yeah. ^_^

    And that song rules.

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    Default Re: Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part 2 (113)

    I noticed something in this episode that I didn't before.

    You know how Crash and Boomer jump right into Kobol's atmosphere? She said that Gaeta plotted the jump.

    A few scenes before this he was drinking it up with Apollo, Crash, Dee, Baltar and Lee..he even told Baltar that he couldn't have anymore since he had a shift coming up.

    Crash tells Boomer it's going to be fine, and not worry about it. I think he knew that Gaeta had a few too many and didn't want to give it away.

    We find out in S2 of course that
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    Default Re: Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part 2 (113)

    Quote Originally Posted by AutumnDream
    This episode contains what is probably my favorite scene in all of television.

    "Life has a melody, Gaius..."

    Oh yeah. ^_^

    And that song rules.

    Itīs "The Shape of things to Come" and itīs the best one in all the series

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    Default Re: Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part 2 (113)

    omg that was an episode...action but also feelings thats what i like... and the end...wow......

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    Default Re: Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part 2 (113)

    Wow, they packed a lot into that episode (although that bit where Boomer and Crashdown jumped into the atmosphere of the planet was actually in part 1).
    My favourite line was, "No-one coerces Starbuck - believe me, I've tried."
    The flying of the Raptor with nuke into the Basestar was a bit too similar to SGA Siege 2 and 3; who thought of it first? Probably both were thought of at about the same time?

    I wonder when Sky Three will show Season 2? Can't wait!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Annie Sheppard
    omg that was an episode...action but also feelings thats what i like... and the end...wow......

    S'funny that's exactly what I was gonna say!

    Did anyone noticed that when Baltar was lying on the grass, that the grass was flattened out into the shillouette of an angel with outspread wings?
    That bloke is such a ****.

    I've only seen series one so don't spoil it if you know the following!: Do you reckon that this "God" that the Cylons keep banging on about is who-or whatever is the mastermind behind the Cylon plan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kj16V
    Did anyone noticed that when Baltar was lying on the grass, that the grass was flattened out into the shillouette of an angel with outspread wings?
    That bloke is such a ****.
    Yeah- that was such a beautiful shot, absolutely stunning.


    If you've still got all Season two to go, lucky you, there's nothing quite like seeing it all for the first time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kj16V
    Do you reckon that this "God" that the Cylons keep banging on about is who-or whatever is the mastermind behind the Cylon plan?
    Don't know about that, but I was just reading in the BSG Companion that in an early draft of the script, RDM was going to have Baltar meet (in his hallucination) some guy with a beard who would introduce himself as God, and they were hoping he would be played by the actor who played Starbuck in the original series, but then they decided against the whole thing.
    Please... leave the touching to the experts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catsitter
    Don't know about that, but I was just reading in the BSG Companion that in an early draft of the script, RDM was going to have Baltar meet (in his hallucination) some guy with a beard who would introduce himself as God, and they were hoping he would be played by the actor who played Starbuck in the original series, but then they decided against the whole thing.
    Yeah, that was in the LDYB Part II commentary.....that would have been insanely bizarre.....but they decided on the mythical baby instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trek_Girl42
    Yeah, that was in the LDYB Part II commentary.....that would have been insanely bizarre.....but they decided on the mythical baby instead.
    I think it would've worked, guess thats just me.

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    Default Re: Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part 2 (113)

    Quote Originally Posted by Descent
    I think it would've worked, guess thats just me.
    I thought it sounded like a very cool idea, but I'm not sure how well it would have gone down for this show- it definitly would have been a massive gamble that would either have been a "jump the shark" moment, or something brilliant- I think Ron Moore said it came down to the network not liking it, but I haven't listened in awhile to remember exactly.

    Can't complain about the direction they took though.

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    Good ep. Lee holding the gun to Tigh was surprising. And what about the Commander getting shot. Crickey. The scene where Number 6 fought with Starbuck for the arrow was cool too.
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    Shame. After actually starting to get into and like the show on my marthon series 1 DVD boxset watching this weekend, These two final episodes completely spoilt the show.

    I mean a stupid gold painted arrow! WTF! and theirs too much stuff about god/s. and the stupid rubbish about this arrow and the cylons love for god took it to far.

    For start the arow stuff makes no sense
    -1. its a stupid gold painted arrow (who uses arrows thousands of years in the future?)
    -2. why out of all the stuff in the museaum was its case the only one not turned into rubble?
    -3. If the Cylons love god and the prophacy so much why did they not take the arrow for themselves?
    -4. Why did the Humans not take it in the 1rst place? Even if many do belive it was a load of rubbbish, surly some beliver would have saved it?
    -5. All the god rubbish that goes with it. Not that i don't like god, its an intresting subject but i am feed up of having shows beat on about him/her/it. I get enough of it in Heroes!

    Then we have the half human half cylon child. YUK. how many more sci-fi shows do I have to wtach half human half the bad guy on?
    And the cool Dr guy is a good character by his robot in his head is getting confusing.

    After that I am in no rush to watch series 2. I will stick with the much better Stargate Atlantis series 4 thank you!
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    Wow, I agree that the arrow should of been more of a name for a holographic map rather than an actual arrow no idea what they are going to do with that lol

    as for the ending kinda came outta no where anyway Gaius is going to be in deep doodoo when he gets back to the ship either his detector doesnt work and he lied or it does and he knowingly let a cylon loose on the Galactica what a stupid boy.
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    i just got one thing to say about this ep....

    Starbuck vs. No. Six = one HELL of a chick fight.

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    yeah baby...good finale for a show....
    .....tomorrow i'll start with season 2...hope commander adama makes it
    love this guy....

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    Default Re: Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part 2 (113)

    Quote Originally Posted by Sp!der View Post
    yeah baby...good finale for a show....
    .....tomorrow i'll start with season 2...hope commander adama makes it
    love this guy....
    i think that was the key to the shows successes going to into season 2

    how many shows put bullets in there lead character at the end of a season

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    Default Re: Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part 2 (113)

    I love reading past comments and comparing them to now... so just ignore me bumping

    -1. its a stupid gold painted arrow (who uses arrows thousands of years in the future?)
    *BSG Finale -don't click if you haven't watched every ep/season ! :
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    Hurr Hurr, thousands of years in the past you mean xD
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    What can you say about an episode that so effectively develops its plot threads for dramatic counterpoint and provides a shock ending that still gives a visceral impact even if you know it's coming? Also, the final shot of this episode is unto a painting in its visual construction.

    Of course, the music over the sequence in the Opera House enhances it so pointedly that it is almost sickening to think of a "typical TV score" with it. This sequence is key to the story as a sort of mystical bow that is tied over all of the various plot thread resolutions provided here.

    Two questions, one which I have a probable answer for...
    1. Why didn't Six kill Starbuck? (Perhaps Leoben has told the other Cylons about her destiny, that the Cylons can't interfere with?)
    2. Did Boomer black out and sabotage the bomb release on the Raptor? If not, that was a pretty shameless plot contrivance.

    There are several similarities between BSG and Lost; they had first seasons that were largely grounded but towards the end put more emphasis on lofty concepts that expanded the mythology of each show. Many jumped ship when this happened, but I'm fine with it as long as disbelief can be suspended (it's much more complicated than that, but let be the operative phrase), which BSG arguably violated at one point but I digress.

    A great finale for BSG's largely triumphant first season. If I were to venture a guess, I would say that S1 is RDM's favorite season given that he admitted that the writing staff worked better in the 13 episode format than the 20 episode format. This finale was the best episode of the season, followed by "The Hand of God" with "33" bringing up the 3 slot.

    10/10

    Average Rating for Season 1: 6.3 (in other words, a solid season)
    Here's looking forward to Season 2, which produces two of the series' worst offerings and its second-greatest.

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