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    Quote Originally Posted by yowo
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    Quote Originally Posted by MasySyma
    I did miss Daniel, but we'll see more of him next week and in subsequent episodes I'm sure, so he deserves a week off.
    Well, I'm sure that wasn't a consideration, but I wonder if it was a scheduling thing that MS only had time to do a little bit of work on the episode.




    My only complaint is that the writers made a tiny mistake with the Arthurian literature. Yes, Merlin enchanted Ingraine to believe that Uther was her husband, and she conceived Arthur; however, she did so the traditional way people create children and not in the way that Vala described. Vala's description fits the conception of Merlin described in the version of the story as told by Geoffrey of Monmouth. Merlin is half-human and half incubus in the story. If we assume that incubi are possible acended beings . . . This tie would have worked better for me.
    That's true. I'm no expert on Arthurian legend, but I know that Igraine (I love that name, btw) did they deed because I saw the miniseries Merlin Didn't know the Merlin part, though.


    I did find this episode very talky. It seemed like it was a lot of talk to set up two, possibly three points that will later play out. 1. Vala is pregnant. 2. The Ori have a supergate. 3. (Maybe) This deal with the Russians. That's a maybe because that might not really go anywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dani347
    Hmm, I never thought of it being a video camera. But, do they usually videotape people?
    I'm not sure if they usually do, but in this case it made a lot of sense. They couldn't know if Daniel would know what Vala was saying or remember it when he came back and they had no way of knowing what was happening on his end. Recording Vala's statement at least would have it on record after she left, especially if anything happened. They can refer back to it or watch it later if they need to. If they had just listened to her instead of recording it, they might miss something important in their recollections later.

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    Well, in regards to this episode, I liked how serious it was and how it brings into focus the impending Orii threat. And OMG at the Camelot preview.

    Has anyone played any of the Homeworld games? The Orii ships look quite similair (beam cannon at the front, oval shape), but I can't wait to see what we'll pull out to meet them. Too bad I think we'll get our butts handed to us in this round, since A) Orii technology = Ancient technology, B) how long have the Asguard had to build a fleet for a menace like this? And C) we don't have nearly enough ships for this kinda assault. Maybe if we could beam some nukes inside the sheilding (like when the Daedalus arrived at Atlantis) of the Orii ships, we might be able to take them down. But from what little anyone can gather from the preivews...well, I'd say five Orii ships could smack us around like flies. Not without losses, I hope...but still. Lots of space-smacking all around.

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    i love the episode but i mostly loved the sneek peak for next weeks finale,
    SPOILERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR I THINKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK FROM THE SNEEK PEEK AT SLOW MOTION OK SO YEA READDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL



    i had it on tivo so after i finished watching it i watched it again all the way to the end and i saw it in slow motion so i have spoilers in a way lol
    OK i saw 2 earth ships i know its the oddyssey and the korelev, so thats all earth ships and also like 6 hatack motherships and i only saw one asgard ship but the newest ones the onneil i belive is the newest. And i think it was yea 5 ori buckets and they can shoot the beam just like the one in tagalus with the satelite but much bigger. ANd it goes rite through the hatak shield and its destroyed and it looks like the asgard shields are really strong because it shoots it more than once by all 5 ori ships and it still goes on and it doesnt go through and the asgard destroy one ori ship, so that blast u see for a mere second is an ori ship and thats all i saw hmm yea.
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    Wow, that was pretty boring. A whole ep of someone telling a story that's not all that interesting was, well, not that interesting. It was nice to see Claudia again, and she had some funny moments as Vala, but I was sooo tired of hearing her narration by the end of the ep.

    Landry and Chekov were thankfully in a couple of very short scenes because I just don't find these scenes with the Russians believable. I keep thinking of how the West Wing does it, and things are sooo much more realistic there.

    This looked like an ep to give the actors (except Claudia) a rest and to save money. I just wish they had come up with a better way to tell this story than the static method of having Vala sit at a table and tell it to the rest of the team.

    My favorite part is Vala in Daniel's body checking out Mitchell in a towel.

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    It was an okay episode, a little slow for me. The bits at the beginning in the men's locker room when we see Daniel as Vala (or is is Vala as Daniel?) in the mirror were hilarious.

    MItchell was good---no stupid frat boy jokes. Butthead? Please, this is a grown man, keep the 8-year-old's stuff out of his mouth.

    I liked Vala-- more toned down. Still fiesty, but not OTT like the beginning of the season.

    Okay, but boring. If it's on and I have nothing else to do I would watch it again, but I wouldn't search it out.

    On a strictly female note: Claudia Black carried her pregnancy beautifully.

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    decently interesting episode, but bring on the finale.......

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    Nice set up for the finale. Loved the fact that at the end the Tok'ra, Asgard, Tauri, and Jaffa were all working together to find the supergate. After watching all those alliances weaken throughout the season, it's so cool that all are working together. Can't wait for next week!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kharn the betrayer
    This was better than I thought it would be...and here I was thinking it would be the Daniel and Vala show again XD

    well its a bit hard for it to be the D+V show when Vala is possessing him

    nice set up for next week....but couldent they have well used a better design for the Ori ships....they look like giant pottys >_<
    I agree--much better than I anticipated. It was really the Vala-guy she married show. That story really hooked me (I guess I'm really a soap opera fan at heart).

    I also liked the team's skepticism at Vala's story, and their theories of the pregnancy without the "other bits" or whatever it was that Vala termed it. Funny that they left out one of the better known "I know not man" births in history. But...whatever.

    The opening scene was hilarious. I also like Vala's comment about being in Daniel's pants and Mitchell saying that he (Daniel) couldn't defend himself.

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    MItchell was good---no stupid frat boy jokes. Butthead? Please, this is a grown man, keep the 8-year-old's stuff out of his mouth.

    I liked Vala-- more toned down. Still fiesty, but not OTT like the beginning of the season.

    Okay, but boring. If it's on and I have nothing else to do I would watch it again, but I wouldn't search it out.

    On a strictly female note: Claudia Black carried her pregnancy beautifully.

    Dana Jeanne[/QUOTE
    Mitchell was good. "butthead" is a phrase I use often, and I'm as old as Mitchell It's better than a&%$...etc, etc

    I liked Vala too, especially when she lays it on thick for Tomin in the end, convincing him that she was "forced" to go along with the resistance. Nice to see that she hadn't changed significantly but was still toned down.

    Yep, girlie but true. CB does the pregnancy thing well

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    This was a very cool show. Vala was mild in here! The intro scene with her going to the bathroom was too damn funny.
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    The opening tease with Vala as Daniel checking out towel clad Mitchell was absolutely priceless! As was Mitchell's reaction to being checked out by "Daniel". Too funny for words!

    The rest of the episode was basically just an exposition dump setting up next week’s episode. A pleasant exposition dump, but an exposition dump nonetheless. Can't quite figure out why chaining Vala up for 3 days without food or water proved that they could trust her. Maybe they just needed to stretch it a bit.

    Next weeks episode however looks like fun!

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    I think by torturing Vala with no food or water the rebels were testing to see if she could keep secrets under pressure. They wanted to be sure she wouldn't spill the beans before they told her the details of the plan.

    I loved Vala in this episode. She still had hints of innuendo, but she was toned down beautifully. She was a very sympathetic character, and I am truly interested to see what happens to her in season 10.
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    This might be the first episode all year that I consider worth even spending an hour viewing it.

    No, that's wrong. It's the second or third. But, I really liked the way the story was told. It brings a human element to the other side, one that was almost completely absent in the pryors.

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    Seemed like a filler episode to me, which in a way it was, i almost fell asleep lol good thing I have it on the Dvr

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    By far, the best part of this episode was Teal'c Darth Vader comment...although I thought Cameron whipping out the Authurian Legend knowledge was a little fruity. Silly me, and I thought he was going to say Jesus. Or Aaron from LOST.

    I guess the next episode will make up for the serious lack of action in this one. Although it was cool seeing things from Vala's POV.

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    i watched it.

    *greatly* relieved to see a toned down vala!

    where was daniel/michael in this ep? or really, 'what' was michael shanks doing that he was barely in this ep?

    not enough other characters (like sg1).

    michael ironside is 'always' good.

    robert cooper did a good job in the writing/directing department. the *only* quibble i can make is when vala was talking about her hubby being sweet and such, and then the camera came back to vala and she was tearing up. i didn't 'feel' it. and i didn't feel the others reactions to it. i felt the direction in that scene was amateurish. (i really didn't like the close ups on sam, teal'c, and mitchell) but that's the only part i had probs with, and it was just looking at it from a directing angle.

    now, for the story. it was slow, but interesting enough. lots of set up for the season finale.

    what i feel the most, though, is tremendous relief that vala was toned down. why? because if she's going to be on the entire of season 10... at least i know she's not going to be taking over. (i'll trade off mitchell being class clown to vala anyday).

    vala's writing in tonight's ep gave me hope. and alleviated some of my fears about season 10. (now i just need to 'find' some interest for season 10 )





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    Quote Originally Posted by MasySyma

    The new toned-down but still feisty Vala was perfect. The character was not over the top but could still appreciate Cameron in a towel.

    yes, i wasn't bothered by vala's 'antics' in this ep at all (because it was classy, not brassy).




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    ps - i'm sure the slashers had a ball (excuse the pun) with the opening scene.
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    So, I'm guessing that the person whose body is being used by the communication device doesn't realise what's going on at the time. Because Daniel had to ask how he got there. So, I'm guessing the person goes into a kind of unconsiousness? Harrid and Sallis must not have had any idea that Daniel and Vala were in their bodies in Avalon and when they woke up, chained and about to be burned to death, they must not have known how they got there.
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    Nice episode, especially the build-up for the season finale.

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