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    Quote Originally Posted by Skydiver
    so they're building ships around here???? cool!!

    although i gotta admit i've logged a lotta road time the past few weeks and haven't seen much in the way of space ships
    Well that's the trouble with Kansas, there is a lot of wide open space to get lost in. Which I have done more than once, and usually in a really expensive piece of farm machinery that doesn't go over 18 miles per hour.

    Besides I thought it would be funny to use some old rocket silo as a miachine shed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AGateFan
    There was no need for Lee as the corn really wasnt part of the plot just a plot device to get the story moving. Maybe they will revisit addictive corn later and Lee can be in that ep.

    That Mitchell checkpoint thing... guess they aren't counting babylon, I dont remember enough about the rest of the eps to say whether that is true or not. Seemed like a throw away line just to again try to prove to us that Mitchell is somehow better then eveyone else.

    I think Landry was referring to the uber large and obvious transmitter that Daniel was wearing last week in Ethon.

    Baal probably got the beaming tech from Anubis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by walterIsTheMan
    Second, where'd the P-90's go??? Those stupid guns they were using were so thin and small they looked like toys.

    Third, the outfits. They didn't make sense at all. TPTB just made them that way to show off the muscles of BB, MS, and CJ. Sex appeal seems to be an increasingly large drive in all the SciFi friday shows.

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    Did you not get the premise that they were supposed to be traders/mercs. If they would have walked in there with sgc issue black or olive drab uniforms and p90s they would have been spotted as tauri right away. So they had to use more exotic weapons.

    I think it was a pretty good ep. It got the team together for a good portion of the ep. It was also a good non ori ep. and it made the lucian alliance more of a threat (maybe for s10).

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    Quote Originally Posted by x_sid
    Well that's the trouble with Kansas, there is a lot of wide open space to get lost in. Which I have done more than once, and usually in a really expensive piece of farm machinery that doesn't go over 18 miles per hour.

    Besides I thought it would be funny to use some old rocket silo as a miachine shed.
    lol, well at least we got a lot of roads. and if you drive long enough you'll find somewhere familiar

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    Quote Originally Posted by warmbeachbrat
    Thanks!

    Uh--Anubis? When did he get it? My poor memory!
    probably back from revelations when he downloaded thor's brain and baal got the info from nuby

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    Dessert should never have been delivered.... not at that moment anyway.
    I agree.
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    you know snow is nice unless it knocks out some of your channels on satellite such as the SciFi channel!!! i wanted to watch it again but i couldn't...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToasterOnFire
    Looks like the Odyssey is going to be to SG1 what the Deddy is to Atlantis - a deus ex machina.
    Wrong usage of deus ex machina.

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    Okay I tried to go in liking this ep and I was hopeful - again - BUT right off the bat they once again show us cowboy Mitchell being, IMO, arrogant by going in as the drug dealer, screwing it up and getting the team in trouble - AGAIN, after Landry told them to stay under the radar (can you say plot-device). TPTB continue to boggle my mind by showing Mitchell to lack judgment and to be a poor co-leader. He is an arse, IMO. The one-liners were old long ago and there were waaay too many of them in this ep. I am now calling them Jackisms but the problem is Mitchell cannot pull it off and he spouts them constantly - that whole briefing room scene was one big waste of time with Mitchell's silly lines. IMO he contributes absolutley nothing substantive.

    On the planet - Mitchell's lame "do we know any other alliances?" and Teal'c or Daniel's retort of "plenty" (I already forget who said it but it was a good slap to Mitchell) what a tool (a plot-tool - IMO more of the crappy writing).

    That whole scene with the Luciance Alliance guys at the beginning and tell him "Mr. Shaft" yadda yadda - pppffft.

    I did notice at more than one place including when Mitchell is first talking with the Alliance guys - after he went against Landry's orders (as pointed out by Carter) that they need to stay under the radar - and at the end in the Gate Room, that Carter and Daniel seem pretty sick of Mitchell and his childish antics. He is a tool. He disobeys Landry's order to be what? the "Man"? and promptly AGAIN leads the team into trouble because he has to go off an be the cowboy and screw it up - yikes when will someone just shoot the guy and put us (and the Big 3) out of our misery. The team would be much, much safer without good ol' boy around so next time he goes off and gets t
    himself or them into trouble they should just leave him there

    Colonel Reynolds - yeah for Reynolds - why isn't HE on the team?

    Colonel Emerson - him I liked - (one of the DRs. from ER thanks to someone earlier who clarified why he was so familiar).

    Thank God the Tok'ra are still around - too bad we don't get to see THEM - bring back the Tok'ra!! PLEASE!!

    I love Ba'al but I thought he was wasted in this ep

    After beaming to the Odyssey getting out of another Mitchell near-miss Mitchell's "How about that for timing" was annoying since he was the arse that got them into trouble in the first place.

    Good - we actually got to see the GATE and the wormhole - yiipppeee it does STILL exist and it works- yeah! More of that for the final 4 eps PLEASE!

    I kind of liked Nerus - too bad he seems to have eaten it at the hands of Ba'al(pun intended).

    Good - Carter, once again saves the day no thanks to you-know-who. Thank God someone has a brain left ("We're more valuable alive". What on earth was the matter with Daniel? He was more than gung-ho last week to talk and negotiate the way for those aliens but the cat's got his golden negotiation tongue when it comes to his own hide and the hides of his team? The fact that Carter gave him that reason and he reacts for a cheap laugh just shows me that writers have truly lost their way with these characters). Poor Teal'c he was once again somewhat sidelined until we got to see his big arms and upper bod - okay we know he's cut - move on and give up the gratuitous showing-off - what is that, compensation to CJ because they give hm almost nothing to do?

    Sorry but, for me, the bad outweighed the good here again and even though I went in hopeful the fact that Mitchell seems to be continuously digressing and continues to show bad judgment and immature, wanna be the cowby, behaviour that leads the team into trouble, left me once again disappointed even though my expectations cannnot get much lower. Again, I saw nothing of substance from Mitchell except the plot tool (and tool in general) to move the plot along and TPTB gave him a wide tool swath in this episode.

    At the end I really thought Carter and/or Daniel were going to let loose on him but they held their composure and just chose to walk away from him. I see absolutely no team bonding with scenes such as this or the earlier one where he was talking to the Alliance guys. I also saw some of it in the briefing room. Eye rolls, sarcastic smirks at the constant nonsensical lines he spews (who cares about his grandmothers chitlins or whatver the he!! he was talking about - irrelevant BS that does not work, IMO, and contributes zilch to the episode) - I do not get the feeling that they respect him and isn't that what TPTB want us to believe from what they have said about why this joker is co-leader? They either have a very warped way of showing it or they want us to bellieve that at least Carter and Daniel think the guy is an arse.

    S9 seesm to be boiling down to this for me:

    Mitchell = trouble with a capital T, T also = Tool and he is the token plot device. TPTB discussion: Gee we need the team to get into trouble - let's make Mitchell do something else stupid this week that will get them in trouble (unfortunately it seems that TPTB think Mitchell's bad judgment and immature behaviour makes him look cool or like a hero -- geesh what a sad state of affairs).

    The BIG3 = get Mitchell's sorry arse out of Trouble, save themselves when Mitchell's antics get them into trouble too when they try to save his sorry butt and work it so they successfully complete their original mission, no thanks to cowboy shaft. If I had ot give this a number on a scale of 1 - 5 it gets a 2 simply because of the BIG 3 being present, Col. Reynolds and Col. Emerson. Oh yeah - what was with those puny little guns - where were the P-90s???
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    Quote Originally Posted by AGateFan
    Exactly how did they get Mitchell free without actually killing any of the Allience dudes or getting hurt themselves? Magic?
    Oh right - there's another question I had - I asked myself as they ran through the woods - how did THAT happen? Same question I asked last week when we went from Daniel and Jared in the Commissary to Daniel and Jared in a jail cell on the planet - pretty neat tricks. Oh yeah we're supposed to make that up ourselves and just go with it - right. forgot. sorry. I'll remember that for next week when we get the same type of crappy writing, editing, directing (maybe they should pay us instead of the writers since we now have to imagine so much of what has supposedly happened).

    It is becoming painfully clear that when the actors, directors, writers, etc., say they do not watch the finished, as aired epsiodes, they are not lying. They probably have no clue how stupid some of this stuff looks and plays out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skydiver
    yet another example of tell instead of show.

    thre's been a lot of that lately. such as sam rigging the stargate

    they keep telling us that things happen but persist in not showing it
    No, that is not an example of tell and not show. ANd how is Sam rigging the Stargate "telling instead of showing"? Telling is when they tell us what happened without showing us. With freeing Mitchell, they never told us how they did it, they just showed the result -- that he was free. Same with Sam rigging the Stargate. She said she had an idea, and then we saw the result. Neither of these things bothered me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by binkpmmc
    Oh right - there's another question I had - I asked myself as they ran through the woods - how did THAT happen? Same question I asked last week when we went from Daniel and Jared in the Commissary to Daniel and Jared in a jail cell on the planet - pretty neat tricks. Oh yeah we're supposed to make that up ourselves and just go with it - right. forgot. sorry. I'll remember that for next week when we get the same type of crappy writing, editing, directing (maybe they should pay us instead of the writers since we now have to imagine so much of what has supposedly happened).

    It is becoming painfully clear that when the actors, directors, writers, etc., say they do not watch the finished, as aired epsiodes, they are not lying. They probably have no clue how stupid some of this stuff looks and plays out.
    They did this same thing with Ford in The Hive. Its a cheap out for the writer. Basically the writer has no logical way to get the character out of spot A and into spot B so they go away and come back and the character is magially in spot B with everything left to the viewers imagination.

    J. Michael Straczynski mentioned this type of cheap way out in one of the B5 commentaries when he did this sort of thing for one of his characters. He didnt really have a way for the character to get out of the situation but knew where he wanted him to end up so..... cut to another scene, come back and WaLa the character is where he needed to be.
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    ^^^ Kinda sounds like seasons 9 and 10 of SG-1 to me. Thor, ya got Aspirin?

    AGateFan has officially Gone Fishin (with Jack, Sam, Daniel, Teal'c) and is hoping Atlantis does not take that same hairpin turn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lax god
    Did you not get the premise that they were supposed to be traders/mercs. If they would have walked in there with sgc issue black or olive drab uniforms and p90s they would have been spotted as tauri right away. So they had to use more exotic weapons.

    I think it was a pretty good ep. It got the team together for a good portion of the ep. It was also a good non ori ep. and it made the lucian alliance more of a threat (maybe for s10).
    I'm not saying they had to wear SGC outfits, but what they were wearing wasn't necessary.

    And the guns had nothing to do with being undercover because we see Teal'c and Daniel using them again when they were on Ba'al's ship.

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    it was alright.

    nothing horrible, but nothing great.

    i liked seeing nerus, and his and landry's scenes were funny and well acted.

    the L... L-something alliance were just thugs. the scenes where they were beating up sg1 were... not scarey. might have been more threatening if mitchell would have cut out his one-liners long enough.

    mitchell is sure a big hero, isn't he? is a person that's not afraid to die a hero, or just insane?

    i 'did' like, though, the cute little argument on who was the most drug dealer looking. sam as mary poppins!

    at the end, when sg1 come through the stargate and mitchell is all gung ho, i liked the difference between his 'wow, isn't this great!' to sam and daniel's 'i'm taking a shower' and 'i'm going to see a doctor'. i think sam and daniel have been through enough that maybe they're... just getting sick of it? but it was interesting to see the difference. hmmm... might be foreshadowing perhaps?

    so, on a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being best; i'll give it a 5. some fun scenes, but over all, i feel like i've eaten a meal of celery.




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    Quote Originally Posted by binkpmmc
    Oh right - there's another question I had - I asked myself as they ran through the woods - how did THAT happen? Same question I asked last week when we went from Daniel and Jared in the Commissary to Daniel and Jared in a jail cell on the planet - pretty neat tricks. Oh yeah we're supposed to make that up ourselves and just go with it - right. forgot. sorry. I'll remember that for next week when we get the same type of crappy writing, editing, directing (maybe they should pay us instead of the writers since we now have to imagine so much of what has supposedly happened).

    It is becoming painfully clear that when the actors, directors, writers, etc., say they do not watch the finished, as aired epsiodes, they are not lying. They probably have no clue how stupid some of this stuff looks and plays out.
    Maybe they did shoot it originaly but got strapped for time and had to lose it in the final cut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JUNIOR
    Maybe they did shoot it originaly but got strapped for time and had to lose it in the final cut.
    If that was true why did they show the same scene twice?
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    ^^^ Kinda sounds like seasons 9 and 10 of SG-1 to me. Thor, ya got Aspirin?

    AGateFan has officially Gone Fishin (with Jack, Sam, Daniel, Teal'c) and is hoping Atlantis does not take that same hairpin turn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randy
    Wrong usage of deus ex machina.
    No its not, the modern definition of a deus ex machina is a plot device that appears out of no where and does not follow logic as a conveniant plot solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AGateFan
    If that was true why did they show the same scene twice?
    i was so writing that...well...something like that...as in i share the thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JUNIOR
    Maybe they did shoot it originaly but got strapped for time and had to lose it in the final cut.
    valid point - maybe they did. Perhaps though, if that was the case, we could have used less of the nonsubstantive nonsense from Mitchell in the briefing room and what foods his grandmother makes and could have actually been shown something SUBSTANTIVE to the story?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AGateFan
    If that was true why did they show the same scene twice?
    oh right - that too.

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