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    If anything, it seemed to me like Sam was interested in the technology more than Cam. No ship involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AGateFan
    I agree completely, I would like to see more team stand alones also and I would prefer to be 'shown' instead of told stuff.
    It didn't seem to me like being told. I wasn't told that Mitchell is determined to find the truth. I saw it through his actions. I saw why he is persistant, through the flashbacks. It was sort of like The Gamekeeper, where a past event plays a part in the episode.

    Oh, and no ship. Just concern for a friend having a very difficult time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kazbaby
    It's not forcing him on us, it's filling us in on an enigma that is now a part of the team. We are learning as we go along, but they're allowing us to get to know him on the same level that we know the rest of the team.



    Oh, I hope not. I like them having just a friendship. It's another layer to their lives other than adventures.

    I agree completely.

    I was glad they added the backstory, it really helps me respect the character more and take him more seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kazbaby
    It's not forcing him on us, it's filling us in on an enigma that is now a part of the team. We are learning as we go along, but they're allowing us to get to know him on the same level that we know the rest of the team.
    The same level as the rest of the team? So then they have to force that stuff down our throats to get 9 years worth of history out of him.

    Again, I'm sorry you don't agree with me. I understand where you are coming from, but for me, it's too much. We learned about him in the first episode, I was ready to accept him and move on. But not all this angst about him. For me, I hope they are done with the flashbacks. Let's move on and get some good team episodes.

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    Overall: Meh.

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    Meh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dani347
    It didn't seem to me like being told. I wasn't told that Mitchell is determined to find the truth. I saw it through his actions. I saw why he is persistant, through the flashbacks. It was sort of like The Gamekeeper, where a past event plays a part in the episode.

    Oh, and no ship. Just concern for a friend having a very difficult time.
    I wasnt referring specifically to this ep. I was talking in general terms... I actually rather liked this ep. To me it was as good as Cold Lazarus.... well ok maybe not as good... I would have to watch it a few hundered times before I could really say that, but anyway you know what I mean.
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    I can't understand how you see it as forcing his history down our throats, and it's not all angst in his history. Yes, he had something traumatic in his childhood, but from the look of it, it made for a strong relationship with his father and they showed us why, and how, he was determined to survive and learn to walk again after his own crash.

    And in no way am I saying that they're showing us '9 years worth of history', but rather they’re showing what we need to in order to get to know him more intimately as we know the others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nccjones
    Ok...Am I really the only one who noticed the Daniel slam dunk in the conference room? I'm starting to wonder if people didn't think it was a big deal. I mean, Daniel was voicing his concern and there was only on a few planets so far Mitchell who was already hot after the alian babe slamming him for his concerns, and then Landry saying..yes, we know that for 9 years that there's been questionable alian devices..but that's what they go to the planets (well, along those lines...not exact quote).

    I just felt that he was totally disrespected in that scene. JMO.
    I noticed, and it didn't bother me. It didn't seem like a slam. Daniel said that if the device succeeded, it could accelerate their (did these people have a name?) technological advancement. Mitchell just said that he thought that was the reason why they were doing it. He didn't call Daniel stupid or anything, either directly, or in his manner (from my view). And, Landry just said that the SGC has been doing the same thing. Which they have been doing. Landry didn't agree with Daniel, he said so, he pointed out why. It hardly seemed like a slam from either of them, imo.

    I also didn't see 9 years worth of history. I saw some pretty basic things. He had a father who lost his legs, and who he apparently had a good relationship with. He had one bad experience as a fighter pilot. And, the battle in Lost City. Oh, and Grandma. Which has mainly been through minor mentions in various episodes. That's only scrapping the surface.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dani347
    I noticed, and it didn't bother me. It didn't seem like a slam. Daniel said that if the device succeeded, it could accelerate their (did these people have a name?) technological advancement. Mitchell just said that he thought that was the reason why they were doing it. He didn't call Daniel stupid or anything, either directly, or in his manner (from my view). And, Landry just said that the SGC has been doing the same thing. Which they have been doing. Landry didn't agree with Daniel, he said so, he pointed out why. It hardly seemed like a slam from either of them, imo.
    Actually, I thought that Mitchell misunderstood Daniels point. I thought he thought Daniel was saying its a good thing to accelarate ones technological advancement. Then Daniel had to "explain" to him why such things are bad. Then Landry simply pointed out that its the exact same thing the SGC does everyday... heck, its their entire mission.

    Thats what I thought was going on... so to me it was more a Daniel slam on Mitchell who was crazy happy about some new cool tech.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dani347
    I noticed, and it didn't bother me. It didn't seem like a slam. Daniel said that if the device succeeded, it could accelerate their (did these people have a name?) technological advancement. Mitchell just said that he thought that was the reason why they were doing it. He didn't call Daniel stupid or anything, either directly, or in his manner (from my view). And, Landry just said that the SGC has been doing the same thing. Which they have been doing. Landry didn't agree with Daniel, he said so, he pointed out why. It hardly seemed like a slam from either of them, imo.
    Well, I admit that I may be a bit prejudice at this point and that's why I saw it differently. I have to say that many people like the character Mitchell and I'm probably one of the few who don't. At least I have my 8 seasons of SG1 to always watch.

    I guess from the series standpoint I'm glad he's being well received so the show can continue. I feel bad that I can't learn to like him like you all do. I'm still giving the show a chance and waiting Vala's return hoping she'll bring some life to the show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nccjones

    I guess from the series standpoint I'm glad he's being well received so the show can continue. I feel bad that I can't learn to like him like you all do. I'm still giving the show a chance and waiting Vala's return hoping she'll bring some life to the show.
    It's all cool. Sometimes a character just doesn't sit right with a person and either they'll grow on them or they'll blip over them during the run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AGateFan
    Actually, I thought that Mitchell misunderstood Daniels point. I thought he thought Daniel was saying its a good thing to accelarate ones technological advancement. Then Daniel had to "explain" to him why such things are bad. Then Landry simply pointed out that its the exact same thing the SGC does everyday... heck, its their entire mission.

    Thats what I thought was going on... so to me it was more a Daniel slam on Mitchell who was crazy happy about some new cool tech.
    I thought they both understood each other. Didn't see a slam on anyone in the scene.
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    I definetly did not see evidence of a Cam/ Sam Ship. I felt a team vibe overall, but not a Cam Sam Ship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dani347
    I thought they both understood each other. Didn't see a slam on anyone in the scene.
    I agree. I didn't see a slam. In fact I thought it was a kind of humorous exchange.

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    First of all I Love Stargate!
    Tonight’s show was ok because any Stargate is better than not getting to see a new one at all. Amanda made it worth watching.
    Having said that the best thing about tonight’s show was the previews of next week
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    I agree. I didn't see a slam. In fact I thought it was a kind of humorous exchange.
    Ok slam was the wrong word. But I think Daniel was saying that advancing to quick was not good but that Cam didnt get that.... or Daniel didnt think that he got that, because I could have sworn Daniel threw him one of those 'looks'... kinda like the 'he read your report' kinda look, but it went by really fast.
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    I really liked this ep. The idea of the memory device was cool, and I really respected how Mitchell refused to just let things go. Way to go, ptb! Nice to see the backstory on Mitchell like we did. I think that kind of stuff will go a long way in helping others except him more. Also good to see a quality stand-alone ep. See, the Ori won't be the focus of every ep. I'm sure that made some people happy. I can't wait for next week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AGateFan
    Ok slam was the wrong word. But I think Daniel was saying that advancing to quick was not good but that Cam didnt get that.... or daniel didnt think that he got that, because I could have sworn Daniel threw him one of those 'looks'... kinda like the 'he read your report' kinda look, but it went by really fast.
    Yup. That's one of the bits I thought was funny.

    It doesn't bother me that Daniel doesn't think Cam "gets it" sometimes, when in fact he does. I find it rather amusing. It's a nice subtle reminder that Cam is not Jack.

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    I really liked this episode - sometimes its better to NOT have guns, explosions, thousands dying. Nice touch with Mitchell's flashbacks with his father and his "incident". Too bad SGA hasn't bothered to provide Sheppard with the same courtesy. We know so much about Mitchell in 3/4 of a season, and nothing about Sheppard after 2 years. Probably why I've recently come to like Mitchell more than Sheppard.

    As for the "kirking", that one kiss doesn't count in my book. Now, if Mitchell continues to pick up babes or eye them up and down every other week, THEN we can call him "Sheph0r". .er, ah. ."KIRK". Personally, Mitchell seems to have a lot of class when it comes to women.

    Nice twist with the ex-husband at the end. The "Kinsey-type" dude was too obvious, and I was thinking the short guy was the murderer. Kept me going.

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    Nice to see Walter again!
    Oh, I almost forgot about Walter! And he got to do a funny "bit", too! Lovely.

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