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  1. #81
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    Default Re: Critical Mass

    I looooved the B story. Teyla isn't exposed enough and I'm always really happy to see her get to play an important role, whether in the main story or her own story. I thought the stuff with Charin was touching, too.

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    You're just trying to rile people up, aren't you?
    The fact is I think I am a verb instead of a personal pronoun. A verb is anything that signifies to be, to do, or to suffer. I signify all three.

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    Default Re: Critical Mass

    Help with the lyrics, please? In the final verse after they've saved the city, what are the words following "River flows"? They sound like "Let (something) win" but I really can't make them out.

    The rest of the lyrics are:

    Beyond the night, a rising sun
    Beyond the night, the battle won
    The battle’s won.

    Fear and shame now in the past
    Pain and sorrow gone at last
    Gone at last.

    Circle renewed, peace will be found
    Beyond the night on sacred ground.

    River flows [I can’t make out this next bit]
    First new breath, our journey begins
    Our journey begins.

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    Some people mentioned that there weren't any instruments visible during Teyla's song. There were. In the first few seconds of the music when the camera is kinda looking in the direction from the head of dead women (i forget her name) to her feet. And I counted one guy with two big tribal drum thingys and a couple of other people with big stringed instruments which I coudn't identify.

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    Hey guys !

    Do you know where I can find the transcript of Critical Mass?
    I have just seen the screencaps and now I am wondering how the dialogue looks like.
    Thanks.

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    The first draft of the transcript is here:

    http://www.brundle.free-online.co.uk...ical_Mass.html

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    Thanks a lot for the transcript !!!

  8. #88
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    all ina ll great episode, could have done out with the athosian story line and taylas singing, I love how hermiod and novak back, and see everyone ahtes kavanaugh, glad theay had shep useing a taser, I would have hated had he somehow come up with and used a zat on cauldwell, anyone notice that when theay showed the city it was still all lit up even thought theay ahd removed the zpm, also how coe theay where able to explore the city looking for the bomb without power, wasent that why we couldent go exploreing in the first season?, oh well despite a few negative it was a much better epsisode then recently, also woinder how far ahead does this episode take place after the plage in the fourthhorsemen?

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    This has to be one of my favourite episodes, it was really well done and the beaming of caldwell to be interrigated was cool, just a shame that caldwell didnt put up much of a fight

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    This does sound like a pretty good ep. I can't wait until we actually get to see it here in the US.

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    Callie- They sound like "Let (something) win" but I really can't make them out.
    To me it sounds like she is singing -
    Let by the wind

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    Didn't read the whole thread, so sorry for repetition.

    I thought it was great to see that Sheppard is the only one out of practically all the characters on both shows who actually reads and remembers the SG-1 mission reports Specifically, i refer to the incident with Skaa'ra way back in the Season 1 finale, when they zatted Klor'al and Skaa'ra was able to take control back temporarily.

    An important Goa'uld weakness that everyone promtply forgot about for 8 years, until Sheppard came along

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    Very disinterested in spoilers, if I've spoken twice, forgive. Getting pass Stargate Command detection is sort of believeable, but how can a Goa'uld trick the very advanced Ancient sensors?

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    Top 3 of the season so far, no question. I love how everything was super fast paced, and you can definately see the contrast of the colorful Atlantis set and the military-ness of the SGC, very cool there.

    And the song, Oh my God the song! It adds SOOO much to those scenes. Ok, yes maybe the dubbing was a little off at times (I barely noticed it), but it just set the mood so well, and of course, Rachel was perfect.

    Definately an "Outstanding" or whatever the highest option is in those Gateworld polls.

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    just a question though, why does weir look at sheppard when she leaves the room, why leave at all did she think somthing could happen to her?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevo
    just a question though, why does weir look at sheppard when she leaves the room, why leave at all did she think somthing could happen to her?
    I think it was just her not wanting to actually be there when any kind of "torture" (or related tactics) were going on. She took the step of ordering it, but I don't think she could bring herself to actually watch it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callie
    Help with the lyrics, please? In the final verse after they've saved the city, what are the words following "River flows"? They sound like "Let (something) win" but I really can't make them out.

    The rest of the lyrics are:

    Beyond the night, a rising sun
    Beyond the night, the battle won
    The battle’s won.

    Fear and shame now in the past
    Pain and sorrow gone at last
    Gone at last.

    Circle renewed, peace will be found
    Beyond the night on sacred ground.

    River flows [I can’t make out this next bit]
    First new breath, our journey begins
    Our journey begins.
    Thanks for posting that...

    one detail:
    Beyond the night, the battle's won
    The battle is won.

    And I'd say she sings "River flows led by the wind"

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    Quote Originally Posted by JanusAncient
    Very disinterested in spoilers, if I've spoken twice, forgive. Getting pass Stargate Command detection is sort of believeable, but how can a Goa'uld trick the very advanced Ancient sensors?
    Maybe it can't discern life signs to that degree?
    Doubtful it was ever even designed to, considering the obviousness of the Iratus bug (the only other real parasite/symbiote encountered).

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    well i got to see the video of the song, and i have to say that some of you guys are being very negative..sure the lip sync wasnt PERFECT..but i assumed it was going to be terrible..most of the time it was fine!!

    Anyway..and yes 'Led by the wind' is definitely it..i actually did hear that..but wrote what was in front of me!

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    Well, having just watched it, I thought it was easily one of the best episodes i've seen in a while. While there were a few niggles, they were easily outweighed by the many positives; the presence of so many great secondary characters (ie. Dr. Lee, Cadman, etc.), a nice simple whodunit story in contrast to the previous episodes that were more 'out there', and the final twist at the end which I did not see coming, and made me literally sit up in shock.

    I do have a few complaints:
    - The whole Teyla singing thing just made me cringe and, I have to admit, skip ahead in the episode to skip it. I don't know what it was, but I just really don't like it when anyone breaks into song.
    - While the tie-ins to SG1 with appearances from Landry, Walter and soforth were great, I really got a bit annoyed that the agent (forget his name) said 'Colonel Carter just got back and she'll be able to help us with it' (or something like that), and then not even showing a glimpse of Sam! Maybe i'm just missing new SG-1 eps a bit, but I would have loved Sam appearing just as a harbinger of her appearance in 'Grace Under Pressure'. A bit of a cheat IMO, but understandable as it is.
    - The big-ass logic hole regarding the whole 'if they dial Earth, they'll go KABLOOEY!! I mean, why the hell didn't the SGC just set up the relay, and when a few minutes before Atlantis was scheduled to dial in, put something inside the Stargate to block an incoming wormhole! Think about it, if the wormhole couldn't connect, Atlantis wouldn't go Kablooey and they'd recieve the relayed message! And it wouldn't require much effort at all to do, I mean how hard could it be to uncouple the big, red superconductors on the sides of the 'Gate and move the big, honkin' Ramp inside the ring to prevent an incoming wormhold from forming. Hell, I remember Hammond once saying they were able to block incoming wormholes to the second stargate by moving the Iris on it a few millimetres back! Any comments?

    All up, a bloody great episode, but am I the only one who wants more collaboration between Atlantis and SG1? Honestly, I can't be the only person here who wants to see SG1 working in tandem with... uh... SGA1...? Have they ever given a name a la 'SG#' to the Atlantis teams...? *Ponders*
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