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    Question Time Loop Question.

    The device in window of opertonity caused certin planets to experiance a time loop. now my question is what if durring the first loop, you are on a planet within the loop, then you leave to go to a planet outside the loop, where would you be for the second loop?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DAL SHAKKA MEL
    The device in window of opertonity caused certin planets to experiance a time loop. now my question is what if durring the first loop, you are on a planet within the loop, then you leave to go to a planet outside the loop, where would you be for the second loop?

    I'm not entirely sure what you mean- do you mean if you travel offworld via the Stargate? Well in the episode, they discovered they could only connect to other planets in the loop, and if you were on another planet, you ended up where ever you were when the loop began.

    Now if you got in a ship and tried to travel outside the loop-zone, who knows what would happen. I would imagine the ancients tried that, though when I think about, I don't know how that'd solve the problem.

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    Default Re: Time Loop Question.

    I know what I would do if I was stuck in a time loop.

    Suicide, just to see if there's an afterlife.

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    Default Re: Time Loop Question.

    This should all really belong in the Window Of Opportunity thread but I'll say it anyway.....

    What would happen if you made all the Stargates within the bubble busy at the time of the time device's activation? Maybe that would have stopped it from occuring also?

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    Default Re: Time Loop Question.

    my guess is wherever you were 6 hours prior to the 1st loop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAL SHAKKA MEL
    The device in window of opertonity caused certin planets to experiance a time loop. now my question is what if durring the first loop, you are on a planet within the loop, then you leave to go to a planet outside the loop, where would you be for the second loop?
    Couldn't happen; remember in the episode how the SGC couldn't dial to any unaffected planets and the Tok'ra were trying to contact Earth for more than 3 months?
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    Default Re: Time Loop Question.

    Well, apart from travelling via Stargate, what if you took a ship out?

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    Default Re: Time Loop Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by Torley
    Well, apart from travelling via Stargate, what if you took a ship out?
    There was a spherical region of space set OUTSIDE of normal spacetime, so you may not have been able to take a ship out.

    A big wall? Reappear on the opposite side of the bubble? Magnets?

    Who knows?

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    Yeah, that just makes my mind go loopy... 'cuz if, say, the Asgard were caught in such a phenomenon, they have HYPERDRIVE... and I would think that would allow them to go outside of normal spacetime as well at super-accelerated velocities. Meh.

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    Default Re: Time Loop Question.

    What I ment was before the device was intialy turned on and you used the stargate to go to, say chulak from earth, then the device was turned on, what would happen the? (asume chulak is not in the loop).
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    Earth Symbol Re: Time Loop Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by DAL SHAKKA MEL
    What I ment was before the device was intialy turned on and you used the stargate to go to, say chulak from earth, then the device was turned on, what would happen the? (asume chulak is not in the loop).
    then you would be unable to get back to Earth or any effected planet
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    Default Re: Time Loop Question.

    I think he is assuming that the machine was turned on at whatever time in the afternoon... or evening, whenever the loop stops. If you left what would eventually be the bubble during that day, what happens to you? When was that bubble actually initally created? Was it created at the instant where the loop kept beginning? If it was initially created at the end, we have a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobraR478
    I think he is assuming that the machine was turned on at whatever time in the afternoon... or evening, whenever the loop stops. If you left what would eventually be the bubble during that day, what happens to you? When was that bubble actually initally created? Was it created at the instant where the loop kept beginning? If it was initially created at the end, we have a problem.
    it was created the first time they 'looped', and remained until the loop was cancelled.

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    Default Re: Time Loop Question.

    This stuff gives me a headache.
    I'm sticking to Kathryn Janeway's advice about figuring out temporal anomlies.
    'Don't even try'
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    Default Re: Time Loop Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by DAL SHAKKA MEL
    The device in window of opertonity caused certin planets to experiance a time loop. now my question is what if durring the first loop, you are on a planet within the loop, then you leave to go to a planet outside the loop, where would you be for the second loop?
    The question is rather mute actually, because if you were on a planet that is placed in a temporal loop then you are actually in a fractal timeline. Trying to leave outside the loop and the gravity well would be impossible due to the intense energy, which is produced by the time-bubble.
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    Default Re: Time Loop Question.

    Ok, i know this is getting confusing, but say the loop started at 09:00 and and the team leaves for chulak, which is not one of the planets stuck in the loop, now keep in mind that the device has yet to be turned on, and they stay there. the sg-1 leaves for P4X-639 and the device is turned on. When the clock goes back 6 hours on earth and the other planets, where would the team that went to chulak be?
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    Default Re: Time Loop Question.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal-El
    The question is rather mute actually, because if you were on a planet that is placed in a temporal loop then you are actually in a fractal timeline. Trying to leave outside the loop and the gravity well would be impossible due to the intense energy, which is produced by the time-bubble.
    Special relativity.
    That is right. They tried to dial out in one of the loops right before the loop started over again but it didn't work.

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    Default Re: Time Loop Question.

    He was saying, I beleive, what if you had originally dialed out to a far-away gate (that will eventually be outside the bubble) prior to the start of the loop, then someone else activates the machine for the first time, and then time zap backs to before you left to the gate outside the bubble.

    Now my first answer is, you'd be stranded outside the time bubble unable to get back to where you came from. But inside the bubble, my question is, what happened to you?

    This is confusing so let me re-state this:

    Before the machine is ever activated:

    09:00- Person A gates to a far-away world that will be outside the bubble from Earth let's say

    11:00- Person B gates to world with time machine from Earth

    16:00- Person B activates machine (for the first time) while Person A is way outside the time bubble... thingy... mabobber

    16:01- Do - While loop executes as such:

    Do
    {
    Goto 05:00
    }
    While (TimeMachine == ON)

    In other words, go back to 05:00 (or whatever time it's suppoed to be), prior to person A having gated from Earth to outside the bubble. Now, when 09:00 roles around, SGC is expecting to send Person A on their scheduled mission to far-away planet. However, Person A is already on far-away planet and therefore can not be on Earth getting ready to leave for mission... that they already went on...

    I guess Person A just dissapears from the time bubble Earth is in while SGC wonders what the heck happened to Person A... because Person A has already left while SGC is stuck repeating the day over and over again.

    Does that make sense? I hope so.

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    Default Re: Time Loop Question.

    Due to the device's intended purpose, there is no reason to believe that there is a 'start' point set on the machine before looping....so yeh, that would have to be it.

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    Default Re: Time Loop Question.

    Hold on:
    When the time loop is finally stopped, how much has actually changed?

    The loop must be at least large enough to affect the entire solar system, or someone would eventually notice that the planets were nearly three months ahead of where they should be, etc... So when the loop ends, would we actually be three months behind the rest of the galaxy/universe, or would everything somehow balance out?

    And what if a Tok'ra ship (or any random asteroid for that matter) were to enter into our solar system during the loop? Where would they end up when the loop restarted?
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