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    Last night's episode was soooooo sad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callista View Post
    Last night's episode was soooooo sad
    But good;-) Sad, yes but different and good. It was time to get more info about Gibbs family. It was hinted that Kelly would become a topic... I think in the episode before with the ipods and that Gibbs only needs 3 ( I think) songs and that were sounds of Kelly.
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    I LOVED the opening bit with Tony though. Being all manly

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeckettRulez View Post
    But good;-) Sad, yes but different and good. It was time to get more info about Gibbs family. It was hinted that Kelly would become a topic... I think in the episode before with the ipods and that Gibbs only needs 3 ( I think) songs and that were sounds of Kelly.
    Indeed, one of the best so far imo. Gibbs has by far the most depth among the characters, and I love episodes that focus on him (my favorite is the two-parter where he loses his memory).

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    I LOVED the opening bit with Tony though. Being all manly
    Me too, at first I was sure he was dreaming or something. The actor (can't remember his name) must've loved that
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    Me too, at first I was sure he was dreaming or something. The actor (can't remember his name) must've loved that
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    it looked like he closed his eyes while he was shooting, good episode though

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    I only got into the show recently, but I'm hooked. Having started off with some of the S4/S5 eps my first intro to the team included Ziva so I had no real biases or preconceptions about the character and thought she was a lot of fun. Going back to watch S1 came as a bit of a shock to find this random other female, although I liked her, too. Knowing she was only a "temporary" character probably helped to soften the blow when she eventually died- I knew it was bound to happen at some point, so while I liked and appreciated her character I didn't form any unbreakable bonds of kinship or anything that would lead to resentment and displeasure when Ziva eventually took her place.

    I never saw any shippyness between Gibbs and Kate, but I tend to have mental blockers on where ship is concerned because I find it invasive and detracting. I picked up on some byplay between Tony and Kate (and Tony and Ziva) but I chalk that up to Tony being Tony rather than there being any serious romantic possibilities.

    I do like Abby and McGee as a pairing, but I'm also happy for them to keep it casual or past tense or whatever it is. Not sure what to make of Abby and the Autopsy Gremlin, although part of that could be that for whatever reason I've never really warmed to Jimmy the way I usually warm to minor characters. From the commentaries I've heard he seems to be really popular and he's usually the type I latch onto and adopt as my own, but this time? *shrug* I don't have any objections to him, but I'm not falling over myself with joy to see him, either. Feels a bit weird, actually, like I'm missing something.

    Abby and Ducky are my favorites because I think they're both a lot of fun to watch. I'm crushed that someone hasn't come up with a Caff-Pow! cup for folks to buy because I'd snap one up in a heartbeat... although I wouldn't be drinking Hawaiian Punch. Ew. Ducky is the one I'd most like to have dinner with, just because I'd love to sit there and listen to him tell stories. I'm not easily grossed out, so even wacky autopsy stories wouldn't bug me.

    I think what I like best about the show is the dynamics: everyone has something to do and all of the characters play some part in the story. Even characters who may not be in it a lot (such as Abby or Ducky) don't feel neglected, which makes a nice change from Atlantis, for example. IMO Stargate's PTB could learn a lot from NCIS.

    I have S4 on order at the library and I'm catching bits of S5 as they air on TV although it'd be nice to sit down and watch the whole season from beginning to end. *sigh* Guess I'll have to wait for the DVDs.

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    Wow - this thread popped up again!

    I started watching the show back in S2. My brother said you have to watch this show - you'll enjoy it, trust me. He was right.

    I don't know that I could even pick a favorite. I do miss Kate - it was quite a shock when she was killed. And I enjoyed the interaction between her and Tony. I enjoy Ziva also, though. Although I do have to confess I have had a few issues with her starting just here in S5, mostly having to do with her behavior around Tony in the first of the season.

    Jimmy is kind of an odd character. I don't dislike him, but it wouldn't break my heart if they decided to kill him off one day either.

    I love Gibbs, Tony, McGee, Abby, Ducky....not quite so fond of the Director. I had a few issues with some things she did in S4.

    I don't really ship anyone on the show. I don't mind Abby and McGee, but it's not a big issue. To me the show is about the team, and I love the dynamics of how they all work together.

    You said that Atlantis PTB could learn a lot from NCIS PTB. I do agree to a certain extent. I agreed a lot more before Mark Harmon's little standoff with Don Bellisario over the summer. (See post #59 for news links) Mark apparently got fed up with Don running them ragged and said some things had to change, or he was quitting. It ended up that Don left the show, and I can't say that I'm overly surprised, since I can't imagine this show without Gibbs. He's kind of the center that holds it all together, much as I love all of them.
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    Hi...My name is Tame and I.......*looks down*...Looks Up*...I am an NCIS aholic...I own all four seasons already on DVD and would own S5 if they would let me..

    I love this show because of the cast as a whole...well except for the Director... I have a real hard time with Lauren Holly in this role... BUT I can overlook it most of the time

    I am a shipper at heart ... so if I didn't ship SOMEONES people would feel for a pulse and touch my forehead... annoying stuff that... so I do ship Tony and Zeeevah...You have to say it like Tony ...ZEEvah.....

    anyway.... I will do a bit of review, talk about what made me addicted...and if I plan to recover...or not... or if I will just share 12 steps to having Abby's shoes
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowMaat View Post
    I only got into the show recently, but I'm hooked. Having started off with some of the S4/S5 eps my first intro to the team included Ziva so I had no real biases or preconceptions about the character and thought she was a lot of fun. Going back to watch S1 came as a bit of a shock to find this random other female, although I liked her, too. Knowing she was only a "temporary" character probably helped to soften the blow when she eventually died- I knew it was bound to happen at some point, so while I liked and appreciated her character I didn't form any unbreakable bonds of kinship or anything that would lead to resentment and displeasure when Ziva eventually took her place.

    I never saw any shippyness between Gibbs and Kate, but I tend to have mental blockers on where ship is concerned because I find it invasive and detracting. I picked up on some byplay between Tony and Kate (and Tony and Ziva) but I chalk that up to Tony being Tony rather than there being any serious romantic possibilities.

    I do like Abby and McGee as a pairing, but I'm also happy for them to keep it casual or past tense or whatever it is. Not sure what to make of Abby and the Autopsy Gremlin, although part of that could be that for whatever reason I've never really warmed to Jimmy the way I usually warm to minor characters. From the commentaries I've heard he seems to be really popular and he's usually the type I latch onto and adopt as my own, but this time? *shrug* I don't have any objections to him, but I'm not falling over myself with joy to see him, either. Feels a bit weird, actually, like I'm missing something.

    Abby and Ducky are my favorites because I think they're both a lot of fun to watch. I'm crushed that someone hasn't come up with a Caff-Pow! cup for folks to buy because I'd snap one up in a heartbeat... although I wouldn't be drinking Hawaiian Punch. Ew. Ducky is the one I'd most like to have dinner with, just because I'd love to sit there and listen to him tell stories. I'm not easily grossed out, so even wacky autopsy stories wouldn't bug me.

    I think what I like best about the show is the dynamics: everyone has something to do and all of the characters play some part in the story. Even characters who may not be in it a lot (such as Abby or Ducky) don't feel neglected, which makes a nice change from Atlantis, for example. IMO Stargate's PTB could learn a lot from NCIS.

    I have S4 on order at the library and I'm catching bits of S5 as they air on TV although it'd be nice to sit down and watch the whole season from beginning to end. *sigh* Guess I'll have to wait for the DVDs.

    I think I started watching midway through season 1.

    I bolded part of your post, Shadow because I wanted to talk about the ep when Kate got killed. I recall that they told us one of four characters would be killed on that episode: Gibbs, Tony, Kate, or McGee. They kept using the little black and white flash forward things to make it look like it would be Tony, so I figured it definitely would not be him, but I really didn't know who it would be. I guess out of the four of them I'm happy it was Kate (and apparently the actress wanted to go), but it really came as a shock anyway.....despite them telling us in advance someone would die. I thought the way they killed her was very effective. You don't see a main character wiped out that quickly very often....especially with only seconds left in the episode and as the end to a season so that you have to wait months for the repurcussions.

    Unfortunately, since the show was on at 8:00 and I didn't really want my small children seeing all the liquifying bodies and lovely eyeballs sitting on desks and such, I missed a lot of the third season so I didn't really see how they dealt with her death. I'll have to go back and watch those episodes.

    I liked Kate just fine, but I like Ziva as well....maybe even a little more than Kate.

    I really like how they make the characters very competent with their jobs and yet still very human.

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    I caught only a few of season one when it first aired here, enough to really like all the characters and still not have any knowledge of what was planned for the series ongoing or have any spoilers waved under my nose as normally happens ( I really hate finding any spoilers no matter how trivial much more fun watching and having no clues) So when Kate died I was really shocked (rare for an old cynic like me) and this series keeps getting better IMO. Ziva is a good replacement for Kate glad they went for some one different it would have been a mistake to get someone to be just like her character as many other series have found to their cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TameFarrar View Post
    I love this show because of the cast as a whole...well except for the Director... I have a real hard time with Lauren Holly in this role... BUT I can overlook it most of the time

    I am a shipper at heart ... so if I didn't ship SOMEONES people would feel for a pulse and touch my forehead... annoying stuff that... so I do ship Tony and Zeeevah...You have to say it like Tony ...ZEEvah.....
    Ditto to all of that (I'm also an Abby/McGee shipper too )

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    ncis is one of my 'can't miss' shows.

    it has just the right mix of humor and fun and seriousness and drama...with the occasional ewwe

    i love the abby/gibbs interaction, and tony/ziva took a little getting used to, but really all the relationships are good.
    (jenny does get on my nerves though)

    i too don't 'ship' anyone. i've been burned by bellisario and ship too many times to ever invest, but overall the show is a good one and a fun way to spend an hour

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    ok I promised I would come back and talk about this show.

    I will try to put S 3 & 4 stuff under spoilers so the folks who mentioned they are just getting into the show won't be completely spoiled. but if I mess up you have my apologies now I have our spoiler policy in bedded and it only applies to the airing season...but I will try to work around my own pig headedness

    first and foremost I really like how this cast plays the *ensemble* even though Ducky and Palmer are recurring I never get a sense that they were *missing* from teh action of the episodes they weren't on. The same can be said for many characters that have come back for just a handful of episodes. the writing has been exceptional in giving me a feeling of just seamless re-entry and the cast is just flawless in their reactions to the returning character. The FBI director, The Jessica Steen FBI Agent character to name a couple.

    So that has been one of the shining elements of this show for me.

    secondly, I am going to be the one detractor I think regarding Kate
    I did not like that character from the get go. However, I was as shocked as anyone when she was killed. I scrambled to get my DVD set to see why they would go in this direction and I was pleased to hear that TPTB were NOT in it for the shock value but were instead just accomodating the actress. I have gotten completely fed up with PTB who ruin a good dynamic on a show JUST to shake things up

    I like that each of the characters have some very specific strengths and those are played up and played on
    I like that the characters grow and that as each episode airs we learn bits and pieces but never really have to spend the full 43-45 minutes bogged down in a *character back ground* episode for the sake of that.

    I have to say NCIS is one of the few shows were I feel they made very few casting errors

    every actor seems to fit into their role beautifully.
    (with the exception of the Director...for me Lauren Holly is just not a *tough chick*)

    Ziva was what has made the show for me a *Can't miss* this show on Tuesdays. This actress added something to the overall dynamic that the character of Kate was lacking. A *Zing* if you will that brings all the of the characters more alive. Especially Tony

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    Ziva's introduction as well as Gibbs obsession with Ari was wonderfully played by both actors and made the transistion for this new character more believable. Adding to that the fact that Ziva had to kill her her own Brother to save Gibbs gave the viewer a reason to feel for her and at the same feel a trust in the character.

    As for *ship*

    I ship because I like romance and the like... however I have no illusions that most PTB are inept when it comes to actually writing a dynamic couple. Too often writers end up writing their own versions of a relationship and it becomes a way for them to work out their own issues on paper, then on screen. Can we say Bor-ring. There have been very few writers that I have seen in episodic TV that can seem to separate themselves from their writing and actually write a *couple* that is exciting, complex, sexy, and yet just plain fun to watch. IMHO those are great TV show writers.

    So while I love to ship I don't expect more than the UST we see most often because that *first rush of attraction* is what too many think is the best part before all the mundane of daily life sets in LOL

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    I've just started watching S4 so I can see I misremembered something. I knew I'd seen Jimmy shagging someone, but it wasn't Abby. Kind of a relief, actually. He's an okay character, but with Abby? Meh.

    Will have to read up on the behind-the-scenes disagreement. Sounds interesting. I'll also have to see if I notice any difference after Don's departure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TameFarrar View Post
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    Ziva's introduction as well as Gibbs obsession with Ari was wonderfully played by both actors and made the transistion for this new character more believable. Adding to that the fact that Ziva had to kill her her own Brother to save Gibbs gave the viewer a reason to feel for her and at the same feel a trust in the character.
    Oh! I guess that's what I missed by not watching the first few episodes of that season. That's kind of important

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    I knew she killed him, I just didn't know he was her brother.


    I'll definitely have to go back and watch those. Maybe I'll just get the first couple of Season 3 off of iTunes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowMaat View Post
    I've just started watching S4 so I can see I misremembered something. I knew I'd seen Jimmy shagging someone, but it wasn't Abby. Kind of a relief, actually. He's an okay character, but with Abby? Meh.

    Will have to read up on the behind-the-scenes disagreement. Sounds interesting. I'll also have to see if I notice any difference after Don's departure.
    LOL THANK GOODNESS it wasn't Abby..that would have had an ick factor

    I know some folks I talk with got kind of tired of those moments but Hubs and I would find ourselves cracking up over Palmer
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    and his tete -tete moments with the lawyer girl cause you KNOW Ducky was so on to him and just not saying anything but secretly doing stuff to make him squirm just that much more LOLOLOL

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    Oh! I guess that's what I missed by not watching the first few episodes of that season. That's kind of important

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    I knew she killed him, I just didn't know he was her brother.


    I'll definitely have to go back and watch those. Maybe I'll just get the first couple of Season 3 off of iTunes.
    Yeah that ..to me... was extremely important and why Gibbs was so supportive of her once she joined the team....however...he was NOT supportive of her little
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    Y'know, the Harmon vs. Bellisario thing is kinda interesting, particularly since it's TPTB who got taken down a peg... and off the show. Makes you wonder how a similar situation might resolve itself on another show...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowMaat View Post
    Y'know, the Harmon vs. Bellisario thing is kinda interesting, particularly since it's TPTB who got taken down a peg... and off the show. Makes you wonder how a similar situation might resolve itself on another show...
    Not quite so well, I don't think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killdeer View Post
    Not quite so well, I don't think.
    You're probably right, more's the pity.

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