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    GateWorld Everybody Hates Hugo (204)

    Visit the Episode GuideLOST SEASON TWO
    EVERYBODY HATES HUGO
    EPISODE NUMBER - 204

    Hurley is assigned to inventory the food stockpile inside the hatch, bringing up memories about the day after his big lottery win. Michael, Jin, and Sawyer learn more about their captors.

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    Hey, you know what. This was the first episode of Lost I watched, all the way through. And it was a pretty cool episode.

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    I LOVE Hugo! Poor, poor, abused Hurley. I wish we'd learned a bit more about him/his past, though. The flashbacks were a little frustrating.And I spent the whole ep waiting for the chicken place to get destroyed my metorites. *grumble*

    I get the feeling his life really DID go to hell after he won, and not JUST because of "the numbers".

    Knew Bernard would be a survivor, but wasn't expecting him to be white. How bigoted of me.

    Looks like the stewardess lady made it, too.

    And 23 survivors! 23!! AAAHHH! And they're in another Dharma facility, but it doesn't look nearly as cozy as the Swan.

    Ya know, Shakespeare's stuff was sometimes performed at the Swan Theatre. Just for another random connection.

    Yay to the food giving. and PEANUT BUTTER!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowMaat
    And 23 survivors! 23!! AAAHHH! And they're in another Dharma facility, but it doesn't look nearly as cozy as the Swan.

    *snip*

    Yay to the food giving. and PEANUT BUTTER!
    It didn't look like there were 23 people in that facility--I wonder what happened to them all.

    And I also LOVED Hurley's solution to the food situation!

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    Quote Originally Posted by warmbeachbrat
    It didn't look like there were 23 people in that facility--I wonder what happened to them all.

    And I also LOVED Hurley's solution to the food situation!
    Sawyer asked her "I thought there were 23 of you?"
    Chick: "There were."


    I'm guessing the "others" or maybe the monsters got a couple of easier meals from them then the other survivors... Explains why they stayed away from them.

    I had a revelation into lost the other day, something that explained something, I cant remember it, all I remember is that it made alot of sense.

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    Must know what the place was that the other survivors were in!! Must know about their interactions with the Others!!! Must learn why Hurley was in a mental institution!!!!!
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    Mentioning Hurley and the mental institution. I was explaining to the hubby that his lottery numbers were the same numbers that they had to input into the computer. At first he didn't believe me. Then I went on to explain how he got the numbers from a guy in the mental institution who would just say those numbers over and over. Guess who that guy was? Well, I don't know the name, but he was one of the "button pushers" who probably was replaced before the "incident".

    Also, did anyone get a screen cap of the Dharma symbol in the second facility? It was definately different, but I couldn't tell what it was.

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    Hurley learned about the numbers from Lenny in the mental institution. Lenny was in the U.S. Navy and stationed at a listening post in Kalgoorlie, Australia, “monitoring long wave transmissions out of the Pacific” with Sam Toomey, the guy in Australia that Hurley goes to see (course he had killed himself 4 yrs earlier) last season.


    About tonight….for a second there I thought the tail people had done something to Jin and Michael because, to me, they were acting kind of strange and too calm when they came to get Sawyer out of the pit.
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    IMO always implied.

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    Here's the best screencap I could get. I think, and this might be WAY off, but it almost looks like a bird. Imagine a bird flying straight 'up' with its wings extended.

    Also I wonder if 'the others' were maybe criminals or crazy people. Those tend to make the best subjects for people studying psychology, which was one of the Dharma projects.

    Not sure if it was mentioned yet, but: http://www.bigspaceship1.com appears to be related to the show, although I can't access it now. Last night it had a pic of a gas mask with rapidly increasing music, it also sometimes has 2 polar bears crossing paths.

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    Forgot the pic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke Chocula
    Sawyer asked her "I thought there were 23 of you?"
    Chick: "There were."
    That is what I really want to find out, hopefully in the next episode. This show is always raising many more questions than it ever answers.

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    I have to go back and check the credits, but I think the guy who played Hurley's boss, also played Locke's boss. Both were named 'Randy'.

    Hurley also owned a box company, presumably the one Locke worked at.

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    Well, the episode confirmed my suspicions that the "Udder!" were in fact all the survivors of the tail section and not the real Others. They were just paranoid survivors who (I'm guessing) have been whittled down by the real Others.

    Quote Originally Posted by LoneStar1836
    Hurley learned about the numbers from Lenny in the mental institution. Lenny was in the U.S. Navy and stationed at a listening post in Kalgoorlie, Australia, “monitoring long wave transmissions out of the Pacific” with Sam Toomey, the guy in Australia that Hurley goes to see (course he had killed himself 4 yrs earlier) last season.
    A small diversion:
    I thought it was shortwave, not long wave. In any case, that part of the story has been bothering me (from a technical point of view). We learned that the two guys stationed at the listening post received the signal about 16 years ago, around the same time Rousseau's team picked up the signal. Later, she changes the signal to a distress call, but the problem I had was that the handheld transmitter that Sayid used picked the signal up in the 100's of Megahertz, or VHF band. Longwave and Shortwave transmissions are in the HF band, which requires completely different hardware (radio and antennae) for transmitting. Also, signals can't change in frequency, so either there is another transmitter somewhere on the island, or the writers misused their radio terminology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowMaat
    Knew Bernard would be a survivor, but wasn't expecting him to be white. How bigoted of me.
    Why would that be bigoted? Most married couples (at least in the U.S.) are of the same race, so it's not necessarily wrong (or evidence of any latent prejudice), IMO, to assume that her husband would be black. It was a nice surprise, though.

    Unless you were being facetious. In which case, never mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsDan
    I have to go back and check the credits, but I think the guy who played Hurley's boss, also played Locke's boss. Both were named 'Randy'.
    I THOUGHT he looked familiar! And you're right, it IS the same guy! I wonder what that says...

    Maybe he got his boss a job at the box factory after the Chaco Chicken (whatever it's called) was destroyed. Curiouser and curiouser.

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    What an interesting end to this weeks episode -- I didn't expect Hurley to be distributing all that food at the end when it appeared that he was going to blow it up. I was surprised that Jack didn't have a cow and agreed with that decision.

    P.S. That peanut butter is probably rancid from being in storage for that long
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    At the end, Hurley tells Jack that there is enough food down there for one guy for 3 months and if Desmond had been down there several years, how is there still food? Does the food get replinished at regular intervals as long as the button is still being pressed? Does that mean that Dharma is aware of the plane crash survivors? Did Dharma cause the crash in the first place to set up some sort of social experiment?

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    This was an interesting ep.

    Poor Hurley. Regardless of whether the numbers are actually cursed, it looks like Hurley's life changed drastically by winning with them, and not necessarily for the good. I loved the flashbacks and exchanges with his friend. I'm assuming from Hurley's reactions that the friendship did change.

    I found Charlie to be really, really annoying in this one. Yes he wanted PB for Claire, but I think he was a bit harsh.

    I found Jack's attitude annoying too. There's nothing worse than playing "I've got a secret, and I'm not going to tell you, only a select few get to know it". He should have spoken up, told the group what they knew, and that as soon as everything had been inventoried, it would be distributed.

    Love that Locke told Charlie what he wanted to know. That's how it should have been from the beginning.

    Love that Hurley stood up to Jack about handing out the food. I think maybe Rose helped him with that.

    I'm with Shadow in saying that I was a bit embarassed that I had assumed Rose's husband was black. I don't have a problem with him being white at all, it just kind of shocked me when I realized that I had made such an assumption based on the fact that Rose was black. Then I got to thinking that maybe that's what the writers had in mind, to challenge the assumptions that we make about people.

    I'm sure I wasn't the only one thinking that the black guy from the tail section must be Rose's husband. In fact we were almost set up to think that. And isn't that what we do every week. We make assumptions about the characters based on what we know, only to have our assumptions blown away in the flashback sequences. And as we are entertained and blown away, we learn something. We learn that we shouldn't make assumptions about people. That we need to get to know them and their background and how it shapes who they are, before we decide what kind of person they are. To me that's really, really good scifi.

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    Good observations: like Jack said earlier, perhaps this is all one big experiment, which in a sense would be crappy as it takes the mystery away from us and from the entire survivors on the island....if that's indeed the case, but I don't think it is. Hmm, maybe we aren't supposed to think too deep or question certain aspects of the show ie. like the food supply Well, I mean the producers/directors should keep in mind that there are nerdy ones out there like us

    By the way, I wonder what happened to the rest of the survivors -- didn't they said that there were twenty something of us, but when they went inside the compartment there were just a few. Unless there all out fishing or something.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arative
    At the end, Hurley tells Jack that there is enough food down there for one guy for 3 months and if Desmond had been down there several years, how is there still food? Does the food get replinished at regular intervals as long as the button is still being pressed? Does that mean that Dharma is aware of the plane crash survivors? Did Dharma cause the crash in the first place to set up some sort of social experiment?
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    I think the way the woman looks and sounds when Michael questions her about what she said about 23 survivors tells us they aren't fishing.

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