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    9:39 -- time to go to sleep.
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    The relativity would in fact make the blackhole gate so slow that it shouldn't be reachable.
    But assuming it still is reachable, unless the next fool calling figures the same sgc trick to jolt the stream away, the blackhole gate is busy, forever.

    That means when Sam blows a star with it, the previous call (Ashen) is already closed or wasn't made. Either way, the Ashen are alive and well, and pissed. Sorry.

    Definitely had a trilogy possibility here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donald85 View Post
    The relativity would in fact make the blackhole gate so slow that it shouldn't be reachable.
    But assuming it still is reachable, unless the next fool calling figures the same sgc trick to jolt the stream away, the blackhole gate is busy, forever.

    That means when Sam blows a star with it, the previous call (Ashen) is already closed or wasn't made. Either way, the Ashen are alive and well, and pissed. Sorry.

    Definitely had a trilogy possibility here.
    Dude, you just made my head spin.

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    Wasn't the gate destroyed when the star exploded?

    JACOB
    It's likely the Gate won't last long but we figure it'll be long enough.
    DANIEL
    Ah, excuse me, but wasn't the Gate on P3W 451 sucked into the black hole a long time ago?
    CARTER
    Not necessarily. That planet was probably ripped to pieces but it could take years for that matter to spiral into the event horizon especially given the time distortion

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    More headspinning...
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    Quote Originally Posted by enibas5 View Post
    <snip> Also having her lying on the ramp, without the others reacting appropiate to it,
    leaves that ending to be received as quite odd.<snip>
    Yes...I felt the same way! I expected a shocked and concerned reaction from the team, who didn't know yet what was going on. At least Daniel would have rushed over to her (probably all three).
    I've ret-conned it in my head that Kinsey's presence, with all his disapproval and political puppeteering, is the reason they are so restrained.

    It's a good episode on rewatch.

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    *giggles*

    I'm house hunting and I just found a house for sale in a village called Mollem (Belgium).
    I'm obviously amused.
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    What I couldn't understand why they had to bury the Volian civiliazation on their planet in the first place. I mean they can move the Stargate andthe DHD to an other location where no visitors would ever find out that there used to be an advanced civilization on the other side of the planet. It is only a cool scifi story, but not really believable as it would need a horrible amount of resources to hide all the ruins underground.

    Am I the only one what would like to see more Aschen story? It would be cool to see an "2100" story. Solare flares... Aschens have ended in the future, then they want to prevent their own destruction etc.
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    Platschu, I was under the impression that they were hiding the former society from the current inhabitants, and that the Aschen weren't aware of the Stargate network.

    Also, look around, most ancient societies do end up buried, one way or another.

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    They don't know any other gate address just dial back and forth between their own home planet and the Volian.

    I understand your point, but if only one civilization rules on one planet then there is a plenty of space to spread. On the other hand if there is no competition then any progress or evolution will really slow down in peaceful worlds where the Goa'uld was not present. Even if those people were taken away from Earth 2000-10000 years ago, it needs time to raise population to live in every corner of their new home planet. But it is just a scifi show, so maybe I should not worry about such long term problems.
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    A lot of reality is sacrificed in the name of story. This story, for example, would never even have existed if the Aschen kept the population away from the Stargate, and our Heroes came out of the gate to find nothing and no one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seaboe Muffinchucker View Post
    A lot of reality is sacrificed in the name of story. This story, for example, would never even have existed if the Aschen kept the population away from the Stargate, and our Heroes came out of the gate to find nothing and no one.

    Seaboe
    Why, though, would the Aschen have a reason to keep the Volians away from the Stargate? Outsiders weren't (as far as we know) a thing before Sg-1's arrival and it's not like the Volians were a security risk. As far as the Volians were concerned, they were free people who benefited from Aschen help. Restricting their movement on their own planet breaks that illusion.

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    They needed some Volians to work on the fields. If I would have been Ashen, then I would have killed the whole population then they don't need any coverup. Aschen settlers could have moved in and now they would have 2 planets just for themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Platschu View Post
    They needed some Volians to work on the fields. If I would have been Ashen, then I would have killed the whole population then they don't need any coverup. Aschen settlers could have moved in and now they would have 2 planets just for themselves.
    They turned a gas giant into a star so the Volian homeworld would have more daylight under which to grow more crops. If the Aschen need a whole supercharged farming world to feed their own population back home, they're going to have some pretty big problems if they instead send people to live on that planet and start reproducing at exponential rates in order to populate it with their people.

    Imagine if someone in the real world said that X country should just kick the majority of farmers off their farm land so people from the cities could go there and build more cities. That's not sustainable land management.

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    It is a good point, but they could have rebuild or resettle the Volian world under their own rules as they want. If a limited number of Aschen settlers can go there they could have planned everything.

    Maybe I am overthinking this story. It was still entertaining just the little sceptical me has still had some concerns.
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