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    #16
    Jaynes hat is classic. Pretty deep ep too...
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      #17
      Jayne was class in this ep, his hat and the whole 'what'd you all order a dead guy for?' quote was just plain hilarious

      Very dark ep too, this has got to be one of my favourite's

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        #18
        I love Jayne's hat I have one, but not in orange *cry*
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          #19
          One of my favourites- I love the darkness of it, and Jayne's Hat.....I'll have to knit myself one sometime.

          One of my favourite quotes, possibley ever:

          Tracy: "When you can't run, you crawl, and when you can't crawl, when you can't do that..."
          Zoe: "You find someone to carry you."

          I think that quote truely encompasses what the entire series was about.

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            #20
            Originally posted by girlgater
            I personally jumped whenever Tracey/Tracy screamed when Simon was starting the autopsy. What was even funnier is my husband jumped when he watched it after I had already seen it (love sitting back and watching his reaction).
            I've seen this episode countless number of times and I still jump every single time...
            It's one of my favourites.
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              #21
              Originally posted by Easter Lily
              I've seen this episode countless number of times and I still jump every single time...
              It's one of my favourites.
              I jump every time I see it too!

              This is an awesome episode. The final scene is so emotional, I almost cried the first time I saw it.
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                #22
                Originally posted by Easter Lily
                I've seen this episode countless number of times and I still jump every single time...
                It's one of my favourites.
                i jump as well. i have to say that i loved the series, very glad that i bought the dvds

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Spacegirlnz
                  I jump every time I see it too!

                  This is an awesome episode. The final scene is so emotional, I almost cried the first time I saw it.
                  Me too! I loved it.....

                  Listened to the commentary today, gotta love Alan and Jewel.

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                    #24
                    Alan and Jewel are great for the commentary. Personally this is my favourite episode, just beating War Stories, it just has everything IMO and is the episode I would use to say "This is why people love this show". The final scene is brilliant, and if I watch all of the episodes, I leave this until last, as it should have been, and end it with the funeral scene. Love the outtakes for this as well, when they turn to look at the crew standing around the coffin, and Nathan moves to be in every shot, then he hugs the "corpsified" Jonathan Woodward
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by PtahTheCreationGod
                      Alan and Jewel are great for the commentary. Personally this is my favourite episode, just beating War Stories, it just has everything IMO and is the episode I would use to say "This is why people love this show". The final scene is brilliant, and if I watch all of the episodes, I leave this until last, as it should have been, and end it with the funeral scene. Love the outtakes for this as well, when they turn to look at the crew standing around the coffin, and Nathan moves to be in every shot, then he hugs the "corpsified" Jonathan Woodward
                      I love that scene where they stand around the coffin listening to the recording- I also love how it was repeated throughout the show. A great piece of voicework there by Jonathan Woodward, the emotion was perfect.

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                        #26
                        Listening to the recording the first time I had to stop and listen to part of it again, the part when he said he wanted to be taken back to his parents on St Albans, made me laugh because I was living in St Albans at the time! (the town, not the planet)

                        It made me jump too, the first few times I saw it, but I think I've seen it too many times now

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                          #27
                          Good ep liked the Simon Kaylee scene in the beginning and how they held hands at the end. It was a dark ep very powerful.
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                            #28
                            Cool episode. Especially about the guy not being dead after all. Creeped me out! But some pretty impressive flying by Wash!
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                              #29
                              Originally posted by maneth View Post
                              Cool episode. Especially about the guy not being dead after all. Creeped me out! But some pretty impressive flying by Wash!
                              The Message is easily my favorite episode of Firefly. It's not a coincidence that it's also the darkest. I do like the hard-hitting stuff.

                              Trace's flashbacks with Mal and Zoe were wonderful and really built up an interesting dynamic with the two of them. One of my favorite things about this episode is that Trace never got his life together after the war. A lot of people go through something big and traumatic while others might look on and wonder when they're going to bounce back. Trace never did, which lead to some very questionable choices later.

                              My other favorite part about this episode is the haunting soundtrack. The mournful piano and violins made this episode's soundtrack the most memorable of the entire series.
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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Pharaoh Atem View Post
                                i did not like this epsiode.
                                It's my least favorite Firefly episode. There are some great lines (but that's pretty much every Firefly episode), and Jayne's hat is all sorts of awesome, but I cannot stand the Tracey character, or the actor who plays him.

                                Originally posted by Spacegirlnz View Post
                                I love Jayne's hat I have one, but not in orange *cry*
                                I have one. A friend of mine who knits made me one. It's pretty much the only reason I am even remotely looking forward to winter, so I can wear it.

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