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    It was good to see Cassandra again, and that was a tough decision about whether to save her life, or let her die and keep the Go'uld. However, they made the right call.

    I didn't like Cassie's behavior at the first part of the episode, but it's just teenage stuff, in my opinion. I was so glad when she settled down at the last of the show. Great episode.

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    How did Cassandra grow up so quickly? In season 1 she was just a little kid.

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    Couldn't stand Nirrti, wished They went back on their promise after Nirrti cured Cassandra but the b**** got what was coming to her in metamorphosis.

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    True.. but it was fun watching her try to seduce jonas..

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    Quote Originally Posted by garhkal View Post
    True.. but it was fun watching her try to seduce jonas..
    she reminded me of Hathor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JanineGrant2 View Post
    How did Cassandra grow up so quickly? In season 1 she was just a little kid.
    She was eleven or twelve in "Singularity". (The actress portraying her was, too.) So that makes her a teenager in "Rite of Passage". Kids grow up fast!

    ETA: Before anyone says anything, yes, I'm aware they used a different actress in this episode. But had they used Katie Stuart again, Cassandra would still have been portrayed as a teenager, because Katie was a teen by this time as well. According to IMDB, she was born in 1985.

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    Cassie was supposedly turning 15 on her birthday in "Rite of Passage". In the episode "1969", when the team meets the elder Cassie at the end of the episode, Jack says something like "Cassie's 13 years old", which would have made her about 11 in "Singularity".

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    If she's 11 in "Singularity, which is just past the middle of Season 1, and 13 in "1969" near the end of Season 2, she was probably 11 going on 12 when she came to Earth. Yep, makes sense. So for her to then be turning 15 in Rite of Passage, which comes during the first third of Season 5, also makes sense... especially if you consider that each season likely does not map directly and tidily to a calendar year.

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    The lexicon has Cassandra as a 12-year-old girl when they meet her on Hanka and, even though I thought she looked much more childish it works with the actress' age.

    ...especially if you consider that each season likely does not map directly and tidily to a calendar year.
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    This episode isn't quite as bad as I remembered. The problem is I really don't like the replacement actress for Cassie, and she overshadows the rest of the episode which actually has a lot of good stuff going on. It's not just the actresses fault, she's written here as a complete moody teenage *****, and it's in such a stark contrast to the Cassie of old.

    The stuff in Niirti's lab is good fun, and the last 15 minutes or so are very enjoyable.

    RATING: 6.5 out of 10

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeftHandedGuitarist View Post
    It's not just the actresses fault, she's written here as a complete moody teenage *****, and it's in such a stark contrast to the Cassie of old.
    But it's realistic. By this time Cassie could well be a complete moody teenage *****.

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    I don't think it's realistic, just sterotypical and cheap writing.

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    I think it shows that even alien children are very resilient and it doesn't matter if they're from 'Toronto' or not, but they'll adjust in time.
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    It would have much more interesting to see the SGC turn Nirrti over to the Tok'ra to extract her goa'uld rather than just let her go. There are no rules of honor with such creatures. Even she said she would not have complied with the agreement. There is no sense in being overly righteous. Turning her over to the Tok'ra would have been the best choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave2 View Post
    It would have much more interesting to see the SGC turn Nirrti over to the Tok'ra to extract goa'uld rather than just let her go. There is no rules of honor with such creatures. Even she said she would not have complied with the agreement. There is no sense in being overly righteous. Turning her over to the Tok'ra would have been the best choice.
    I think I missed exactly was the reason for children to get sick in the first place in the planet village, and how did they know to go into the forest to find the entry to Nerrti's lab.

    I seem to remember Sam commenting about all the planets with the millions and billions of people in danger from the goa'ulds, and yet most planets they visit only comprise a couple of small villages with a relative handful of inhabitants on entire planets.

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    Hanka Hanka burnin' love!
    That is, a beloved Hankan is burning up, and SG-1 must save her from the aging threat, Nirrti. You'll want to grab a Hank-ie for this one! The goa'uld's extensive technology apparently does not include Botox or wrinkle cream, but there is the possibility of long term genetic manipulation of hosts that will allow next gen goa'ulds to cheat at chess and cause electrical outages. My, the goa'ulds are seeming more and more like cold war era Russian stereotypes. In the end, love defeats evil through a mother's courageous decision (although I'm not sure why Nirrti believed Hammond's bluff that he would allow Fraser to shoot her, and lose Cassandra in the process), and Nirrti lives to guest star again. And was that a moment between Dr. Fraser and Daniel Jackson? They looked like they were the ones who wanted to go scurry off into the woods...
    Grade: C for Cheese

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    In the scene where Cassandra is well again and Jack is looking from the door into the shielded room where Cassandra is and Janet is hugging Cassandra, i got 2 vibes from that scene. One is that he is happy for Cassandra being alive, and two, that his own son could not be alive so Jack could hug him and love him like Janet does with Cassandra. Just my own 2 cents

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    At some point in my Halls of Res flat I slipped a VHS into the machine...(and a fire alarm went off halfway through the ep!)

    1. Hadn't been expecting to see Cassandra again and had forgotten about the kid in Bane. Liked the new Cassie looks wise but she'd have probably been off limits.

    2. For a fair chunk of the ep I actually thought that Cassie would survive and complete her transformation into a Hok'Taur. What would they have done with her then?

    3. Nirrti, having her around was less than ideal.

    4. Great ep from Janet through.

    Good ep!

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    Not one of my favourite episodes this one. Just about managed to get through watching it, it's just to say I've rewatched every episode for the GW rewatch!!!

    Was never bothered about what happened to Cassie so this episode didn't really hold my interest. The cold, souless Nirti is a great villain though.

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    Another average episode.

    Cassie is back (for the last time in the series) and gets sick and need help from Nirrti, the woman who wiped out her people.

    The Commentary:
    • The first chess scene, all of Carter's lines were meant for O'Neill
    • The spinning chess piece was all CG, except for 1 scene because they didn't like how it spun.


    Tomorrow, Chaka get kidnapped, and only SG-1 can save him.

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