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    Quote Originally Posted by Annoyed View Post
    Firefox has reported random unsecured page errors on random threads for a while. This particular thread does throw the error, but the parent thread is fine. This particular thread says "parts of this page are not secure (such as images)"
    Same thing here latest stable Firefox on Windows 10 here.

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    I would like to report an issue, I get when clicking on "reply with quote" being redirected to the full ,message editor the connection goes from safe to not safe...I am using the latest version of Chrome on Windows

    Edit: I checked a few other threads to "reply with quote" and its not for all threads, just some

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    Hmm. I wonder if these security errors might be thrown by elements within any given thread that are not being served by GateWorld itself -- such as embedded images from image hosting services.

    I can investigate further if someone can send along the URL of a thread page that is doing this consistently.

    (If it were being caused by, say, an ad then it would creep up inconsistently where the ad is loaded and not when reloading the same page.)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Darren View Post
    Hmm. I wonder if these security errors might be thrown by elements within any given thread that are not being served by GateWorld itself -- such as embedded images from image hosting services.

    I can investigate further if someone can send along the URL of a thread page that is doing this consistently.

    (If it were being caused by, say, an ad then it would creep up inconsistently where the ad is loaded and not when reloading the same page.)
    The details of the errors I get w/ Firefox do indicate it is a mixed content error; some aspects unencrypted or some such.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darren View Post
    Hmm. I wonder if these security errors might be thrown by elements within any given thread that are not being served by GateWorld itself -- such as embedded images from image hosting services.

    I can investigate further if someone can send along the URL of a thread page that is doing this consistently.

    (If it were being caused by, say, an ad then it would creep up inconsistently where the ad is loaded and not when reloading the same page.)
    This thread currently on this page has a not safe connection according to Chrome when reading the page but as I am now typing the reply in the full message editor, the connection is safe. Yesterday viewing the page was safe according to Chrome

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    Is this still happening anywhere?

    If it is,link us to the threads/pages or tell us the title and page(s) if possible.

    A cap of the error codes would be helpful too,though not essential.

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    I was able to duplicate the error for a short time on this thread page. The best I could tell when digging into the page load errors is that my ad block extension (uBlock Origin for Chrome) was knocking out anything on the page that looked ad-related. But once I disabled uBlock for this site, the errors went away and the page loaded with a secure connection.

    Other pages on the forum, however, were loading securely with uBlock on. And when I re-enabled the extension, this page no longer threw errors and is currently loading securely.


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    Fascinating... and odd... like everything that throws errors.

    Will keep this tip in mind. Thanks Darren.
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    Personally, I don't use adblockers, they seem a little like stealing from content providers (and free site providers).
    BUT
    I will have to say the "side ads" that keep popping up now on EVERY page change are entirely excessive. Not even TV does that much gratuitous advertising and it's that approach that makes people block them and deny revenue. Someone needs to pay the bills, I understand that and will accept some "inconvenience" to get the access to things I enjoy, but this is ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darren View Post
    I was able to duplicate the error for a short time on this thread page. The best I could tell when digging into the page load errors is that my ad block extension (uBlock Origin for Chrome) was knocking out anything on the page that looked ad-related. But once I disabled uBlock for this site, the errors went away and the page loaded with a secure connection.

    Other pages on the forum, however, were loading securely with uBlock on. And when I re-enabled the extension, this page no longer threw errors and is currently loading securely.
    That's weird, I migrated from adblock+ because they have "paid advertisments" to uBlock Origin, Never had any issues with gateworld related to it whatsoever on my end, though I DID have a weird logout issue regarding a different extension that kept forcing me to be logged out. I have since disabled that extension and uninstalled it.

    It was called Dark Reader for Chrome

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gatefan1976 View Post
    Personally, I don't use adblockers, they seem a little like stealing from content providers (and free site providers).
    BUT
    I will have to say the "side ads" that keep popping up now on EVERY page change are entirely excessive. Not even TV does that much gratuitous advertising and it's that approach that makes people block them and deny revenue. Someone needs to pay the bills, I understand that and will accept some "inconvenience" to get the access to things I enjoy, but this is ridiculous.
    This is where site operators are slitting their own throats. If sites in general just used static banners, the effect of which is "Hey, we have this thing for sale, are you interested?" and the viewer can click on it or not depending upon interest, then very few people would bother with ad blockers.

    But that isn't the way it works. The advertising industry destroys everything it touches. It's the same attitude shown decades ago in used car and other advertising on TV; the volume was raised during the ads in comparison to the rest of the program. Federal laws (at least in the US) put the kibosh on that, and the ad industry promptly "cheated" to get around it.

    The internet equivalent is pop-up ads, pop-under ads, scripts and other crap intended to either trick people into clicking on things by accident, perhaps trying to close the ad, as well as poor policing of the ads themselves, many of which contain malware or scamware intended to trick viewers; computer repair scams and such, as well as ransomware & such. None of which actually accomplish the purpose of ads, increased product sales. All it does is piss people off.

    So, the natural and to be expected response on the viewer's part is ad blockers. So the site operators lose money as no one actually sees their ads.

    This is an easily solved problem; the ad industry has to learn to behave itself, but it will take a very long time AFTER the industry does change for people to become less cautious. But, when has anyone seen marketing types drop the "piss 'em off enough and they'll buy what I'm selling" mentality? Never.
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    I only have it happening when I browse at work -- so I'm assuming they have firewalls in place that I don't have on my home computer.

    Though, that's not to say I don't have several layers of protection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Annoyed View Post
    This is where site operators are slitting their own throats. If sites in general just used static banners, the effect of which is "Hey, we have this thing for sale, are you interested?" and the viewer can click on it or not depending upon interest, then very few people would bother with ad blockers.
    Speaking just for me, GW has been like that for over a decade. It's only been in the last few days this has happened (the side ads).
    Is it a back end or security issue, I don't know.
    I don't mind ads, as I said they pay the bills, and someone has to pay the bills.
    But that isn't the way it works. The advertising industry destroys everything it touches. It's the same attitude shown decades ago in used car and other advertising on TV; the volume was raised during the ads in comparison to the rest of the program. Federal laws (at least in the US) put the kibosh on that, and the ad industry promptly "cheated" to get around it.
    You could say the same about ANY revenue raising scheme. Tax destroys people, but it lets others survive. I believe you will agree with me is when it becomes ridiculous it actually becomes an issue. We have had ads before either you or me were born, but that was ok because it was not so "in your face"
    The internet equivalent is pop-up ads, pop-under ads, scripts and other crap intended to either trick people into clicking on things by accident, perhaps trying to close the ad, as well as poor policing of the ads themselves, many of which contain malware or scamware intended to trick viewers; computer repair scams and such, as well as ransomware & such. None of which actually accomplish the purpose of ads, increased product sales. All it does is piss people off.
    Sure, but they are not "ads", they are using the platform of ads to be douchebags. This is where people need to refine their distinction. I don't mind ads, I DO mind them being excessive. I can watch TV and accept that every 10-15 minutes, they need an ad break to pay for what I want to watch. I cannot accept them being every 10-15 SECONDS.
    So, the natural and to be expected response on the viewer's part is ad blockers. So the site operators lose money as no one actually sees their ads.
    Yet, that does nothing to the advertisers, only to the hosts.
    This is an easily solved problem; the ad industry has to learn to behave itself, but it will take a very long time AFTER the industry does change for people to become less cautious. But, when has anyone seen marketing types drop the "piss 'em off enough and they'll buy what I'm selling" mentality? Never.
    Your problem is not with the ad industry, it's with people who either subvert or misuse it.
    Distinction.
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    Do the side ads you're seeing look anything like these?

    Video ad cap.Feb 25th 2020.JPG
    That one loads what appear to be Netflix video promos for The Witcher and a load of other shows.There's an "X" to click but that only works per page load.

    Video ad cap 2..JPG
    This one is a promo vid for playgame-dot-io.I can't click without being diverted to their site,because there isn't an "X" to click to temporarily kill the ad.

    Both are aggravatingly persistent!

    Most ads are linked to our geographical area ,so you guys might be seeing different videos?

    I haven't found any way to block those specific ads yet,but will pass any caps on to Darren so he can try to have them zatted by the Ad suppliers.

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    Yeah, the side ads are starting to annoy me mainly because even though they're supposed to be on mute (there's a little x by the mic symbol and everything) the volume randomly comes on, I don't really care much when I'm at home, but sometimes I'll come on here while I'm out or while I'm on break at work to pass the time and the ads just start blasting.

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    Ok.I can understand how annoying that can be.

    Rather strangely the muting works for me on the Netflix one in FF and Chrome.(Via Laptop)

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    Tested the ads on my phone and that Netflix one obscures half the screen.

    Anyone else having that problem too?

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    The ads are actually smaller (or maybe they're just positioned lower on the forum page) for me today, but previously they were taking up about a quarter of the reply box when I went to type a reply. I'm usually on here on my phone (even when I'm at home) using the full site not the mobile one because I can't stand the way it looks lol. I haven't had any issues with the sound going on today, so maybe that issue was resolved.

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    I can only see the "Netflix" add on the main page... but it's always muted in my case and I rarely click it close because I generally click away faster than having to bother to close it, so I basically leave it playing. It doesn't bother me that much.

    No adds on the forum page -- yes, I have several addblocks in place, which are set to different protection levels.
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    Those side ones are everywhere, not just on the forum but on the main site as well. I was looking for some photos last night and gave up because of the persistent ads. It’d reset every single page load.

    I agree that advertisers are their own worst enemy. Put out a static ad and get very few respondents...why? Cause people don’t want what you’re selling to be honest. But they think the more obnoxious it is the more likely people will click on it. No. Cause we still don’t want what is being sold. But yes, being obnoxious along with poorly policing things and allowing malware and spyware to be dished up and people feel justified in blocking it, which mean less see it, which mean they feel justified to get even more obnoxious and pushy.

    Thing is, as a society, we have so much advertising crammed at us that most dont’ even see them anymore. It’s ad overload.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skydiver View Post
    Those side ones are everywhere, not just on the forum but on the main site as well. I was looking for some photos last night and gave up because of the persistent ads. It’d reset every single page load.

    I agree that advertisers are their own worst enemy. Put out a static ad and get very few respondents...why? Cause people don’t want what you’re selling to be honest. But they think the more obnoxious it is the more likely people will click on it. No. Cause we still don’t want what is being sold. But yes, being obnoxious along with poorly policing things and allowing malware and spyware to be dished up and people feel justified in blocking it, which mean less see it, which mean they feel justified to get even more obnoxious and pushy.

    Thing is, as a society, we have so much advertising crammed at us that most dont’ even see them anymore. It’s ad overload.
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