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    Since we are told that the android SG1 couldn't stay away from their power source for more than 72 hours, how were they ever able to guarantee that they wouldn't get stuck on one of their own missions for longer than 72 hours?

    (I know, I know.......that's one of the questions I shouldn't be asking......)

    For that matter, how is it we never heard of this rogue SG1 team fighting goa'ulds until our SG1 got over to the planet Juna?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave2 View Post
    Since we are told that the android SG1 couldn't stay away from their power source for more than 72 hours, how were they ever able to guarantee that they wouldn't get stuck on one of their own missions for longer than 72 hours?

    (I know, I know.......that's one of the questions I shouldn't be asking......)

    For that matter, how is it we never heard of this rogue SG1 team fighting goa'ulds until our SG1 got over to the planet Juna?
    Well, if you know you're going to 'die' if you stay away too long I'm sure you'll keep a keen eye on the time. They were bored to death by staying at Altair and wanted to do what they were good at; explore the galaxy. To be able to do that they had to compromise and make sure they didn't stay away too long.

    As for no one ever hearing about this rogue team, I imagine their paths have never crossed before. The galaxy is a big place and with their improved intellect, I'm sure the androids could figure out a way to stay away from the real SG-1 (I imagine they could replicate the list of planets from the SGC and perhaps start at the bottom). They also wouldn't hear stories from allies of an ally about this rogue team, because those people would simply assume the androids are the real SG-1.
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    Bored to death, maybe, but able to control their offworld environment? Say imprisoned by a goa'uld for a week?
    Hmmm.......Bye, bye androids!

    Quote Originally Posted by fems View Post
    Well, if you know you're going to 'die' if you stay away too long I'm sure you'll keep a keen eye on the time. They were bored to death by staying at Altair and wanted to do what they were good at; explore the galaxy. To be able to do that they had to compromise and make sure they didn't stay away too long.

    As for no one ever hearing about this rogue team, I imagine their paths have never crossed before. The galaxy is a big place and with their improved intellect, I'm sure the androids could figure out a way to stay away from the real SG-1 (I imagine they could replicate the list of planets from the SGC and perhaps start at the bottom). They also wouldn't hear stories from allies of an ally about this rogue team, because those people would simply assume the androids are the real SG-1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave2 View Post
    Since we are told that the android SG1 couldn't stay away from their power source for more than 72 hours, how were they ever able to guarantee that they wouldn't get stuck on one of their own missions for longer than 72 hours?

    (I know, I know.......that's one of the questions I shouldn't be asking......)
    It's not that you shouldn't be asking; it's that you should be able to accept that there isn't a single, definitive answer. That said, they couldn't ever guarantee they wouldn't get stuck and die. Given the way JackMarkII acted at the end of the episode where they were created--I don't think he'd have a problem with that.

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    Since the SGI got Cronus's ship, what is the capability of speed of travel of such ships among planets and solar systems? Where was SGC supposed to park such a ship originally, and were all the Jaffa eliminated?

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    Where did the Android SG1 team learn a disappearing act, i.e. the way the android O'Neil did it twice? And if they could do it, why couldn't they disappear when placed in danger, i.e. the android Daniel?
    Was there any special reason that Michael Shanks didn't want to play the real Daniel in this episode?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave2 View Post
    Where did the Android SG1 team learn a disappearing act, i.e. the way the android O'Neil did it twice? And if they could do it, why couldn't they disappear when placed in danger, i.e. the android Daniel?
    Was there any special reason that Michael Shanks didn't want to play the real Daniel in this episode?

    Michael Shanks was the director for this one and his screen time was reduced as he concentrated on this, imho, particuarly tough episode to direct (with all the "double SG-1" stuff in it) ...



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    Tuesday night and another ep of SG1.

    1. Rewatching, I feel stupid for not having clocked that we weren't dealing with the original SG1 first time around.

    2. As it was, once Daniel's head rolls off Mum and I looked at each other and said "Right". Really was not expecting to see Robo-SG1 again.

    3. Cronos really didn't have a clue what had hit him!

    4. Interaction between everyone with the doubles was a bit nuts - pity the doubles all got scratched.

    Solid ep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave2 View Post
    Since the SGI got Cronus's ship, what is the capability of speed of travel of such ships among planets and solar systems? Where was SGC supposed to park such a ship originally, and were all the Jaffa eliminated?
    Not sure how fast it can travel, 25, 000 - 30000 times the speed of light? I know its slower than the hyper drives the asgard use. As for what the SGC does with the ship
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    I think, although memory is foggy, they give it to the Tok'ra. I seem to remember Jack taunting them about it


    This episode was an average one for me. I liked it, but it's not one of my favourites - I would have been happy to not have seen the andriod/robot SG1 again. I never realized Michael Shanks directed the episode until now though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave2 View Post
    Since the SGI got Cronus's ship, what is the capability of speed of travel of such ships among planets and solar systems? Where was SGC supposed to park such a ship originally, and were all the Jaffa eliminated?
    Watch "Exodus" and "Enemies" to find out what they did with Cronus' ship. Earth authorities loaned it to the Tok'ra to transport them to a new base of operations. This is explained more in the episode(s).

    I'm quite sure the ship would have been parked in orbit above earth had they gotten it back to earth. It's far too big to let it land somewhere on earth; it would no doubt be spotted by somebody who wasn't authorized to know this sort of information.

    And I mean no offense, but why don't you watch all the episodes before asking all these questions? Many of your questions are answered in later episodes. If you find out the answers now, it will spoil (a bit) the later episodes

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    Quote Originally Posted by bookwormjules View Post
    Not sure how fast it can travel, 25, 000 - 30000 times the speed of light? I know its slower than the hyper drives the asgard use. As for what the SGC does with the ship
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    I think, although memory is foggy, they give it to the Tok'ra. I seem to remember Jack taunting them about it


    This episode was an average one for me. I liked it, but it's not one of my favourites - I would have been happy to not have seen the andriod/robot SG1 again. I never realized Michael Shanks directed the episode until now though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jelgate View Post
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    They were loaning it to the Tok'ra in exchange for them teaching the Tauri how to operate it. Then it got blown up
    Ah! So I was close! Been a while since I saw these episodes.

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    I listened to the commentary for the first time and was pleased to hear Michael Shanks' voice!
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    I really liked this episode. Loved the Jack-Jack moment, especially when they're face to face for the first time (after they get on the planet).

    So Cronus is dead, killed by the badasses known as SG-1.

    The Commentary:
    • The pyramid was based on the one from the original movie.
    • Shanks reminded us not to let RDA touch any prop because he'll play with it, like the cup he drank from.
    • The wrestling scene (between the Jacks) was RDA's idea.
    • Everyone wanted Daniel's head near his body during the Carter/Teal'c torture scene, but Shanks said no (he insisted on it).


    Tomorrow, the finale of Season 4, the end of the section of our journey through Stargate SG-1's run.

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    One of my favourite episodes of Season 4. I just love 'double' stuff, when it turns up on Sci Fi. I particularly like the way Jack deals with 'himself'. Now he can experience for himself what others have to deal with! LOL!

    The bit at the end as the robot Jack shuts down is sad, not so different after all. I like to think that Harlan repaired them, and made a new Daniel, having kept the original upload of him on his computer for just this sort of event. The 'other' SG-1 were back doing what they like doing and helped kick Ori and Lucian Alliance backsides.

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    A liked this ep. My first thought was that maybe the robot versions had already been there. Nope other way around.

    Good to see Teal'c get his revenge on Cronus. Even if it was his robot twin that did the killing.

    Yay free Ha'tak. Pity it doesn't last long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NowIWillDestroyAbydos View Post
    Everyone wanted Daniel's head near his body during the Carter/Teal'c torture scene, but Shanks said no (he insisted on it).
    I agree with Michael. I mean, it would be a bit sick, wouldn't it? It was bad enough seeing his head being blown off.. >.<;
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jae'a View Post
    I agree with Michael. I mean, it would be a bit sick, wouldn't it? It was bad enough seeing his head being blown off.. >.<;
    I thought you weren't doing the commentaries anymore...? (Glad you still are, though )

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    Quote Originally Posted by jelgate View Post
    Its a robot. If it was a human I might agree but not for a something filled with robots
    So these robots aren't real to you and don't deserve to be treated/regarded the same as a human, yet you make a fuss about Jack not considering stored/preserved biological samples as a living race in Scorched Earth?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fems View Post
    So these robots aren't real to you and don't deserve to be treated/regarded the same as a human, yet you make a fuss about Jack not considering stored/preserved biological samples as a living race in Scorched Earth?
    Of course not but a robot head is not as disgusting a human head being removed from the body. Look at how many times in Star Trek they removed robot heads
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