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    It was funny when shifu said *breakfast is the most important meal of the day* and daniel says * did Oma teach you that?* shifu replies *No the tv did*
    A good episode for daniel but no-one mentions what happened to teal'c in the dream!

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    This episode scared me! I was like, "What the hell?" Then Moscow blew up and I was like, "alright, obviously this is some sort of dream or something."
    I hate this episode, though, not as much as 'Need', but I prefer not to even see the idea of Daniel being evil!

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    Weird episode, i hope TPTB dont do something similar agian!

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    I did not like it much.....

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    I thought this ep was a bit OTT, and I had a hard time believing that Hammond would not take control of the situation before it escalated. That was just too much for me. Shifu was entertaining and I can understand the point of the so called (possible)
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    , but I thought it could have been done better.
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    I'm kinda mixed on this episode. It had some good peformances, particulary from Daniel and Shifu. But I felt the premise was wasted. The idea was good (that Daniel be given the knowledge of the Goa'ulds) but using it in a dream sequence made the whole thing seem like a rip-off of Forever In A Day (which wasn't that good to begin with). I felt it was a terrible end to the whole Harcesis plot line.

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    it was cool to see the dark side of Daniel for once every member of SG-1 (before season 9) the wirter have exploered jack's dark side (sades of grey)
    Carter (season 8) so it was cool to see daniel just not give a darn anymore and willing to sacifice his friends to get what he wanted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightWing
    it was cool to see the dark side of Daniel for once every member of SG-1 (before season 9) the wirter have exploered jack's dark side (sades of grey)
    Carter (season 8) so it was cool to see daniel just not give a darn anymore and willing to sacifice his friends to get what he wanted.
    I agree with that. Everyone has a dark side to them, whether they're willing to admit it or not - and Dr Jackson is no exception. We're so used to Danny being the Voice Of Reason in any given situation where Jack is about to act precipitately that it was quite a shock to the system to watch those principles crumble in the face of the knowledge he is given.

    I imagine it scared the whatnot out of Danny as well, once he came to.

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    great episode...i liked shifu...nice kid...very smart...
    oma give your self a tep on the back! you did well!!
    wow! in the mind of daniel...in that dream world...how much power!!!
    moscow want bye-bye!!! knowlege can be destructive...

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    The satellite weapons were great. I didn't expect Daniel to blow up Moscow though. Out of all the characters he seemed to me to be the least likely to do such a thing. Took me a bit by surprise. Even if everyone has a dark side per se, I still don't see Daniel doing that. Jack trying to shoot him was my favorite part of the episode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skeezix
    I didn't expect Daniel to blow up Moscow though. Out of all the characters he seemed to me to be the least likely to do such a thing. Took me a bit by surprise. Even if everyone has a dark side per se, I still don't see Daniel doing that.
    I know what you mean. It seems almost inconceivable that Daniel (Daniel!) can go off on one if you give him a big, bad satellite weapon system to play with. Of all people, he would appear to be the one who would use it responsibly and correctly (that makes it sound a bit like a VCR, doesn't it? ).

    Apparently not.

    I suppose to some it requires extensive suspension of belief to have him behave so atrociously (understandably, given that he is normally the Voice Of Reason in situations of this type), but to me it seems like Danny was the ideal character to illustrate the concept of absolute power corrupting absolutely. If even he can't control himself, then we're all stuffed!

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    I really liked this episode, in seeing Michael Shanks play a totally different character in a downward spiral, using his friends and getting rid of anyone in his way. Since it was only a dream, it's no use arguing the logic of it as most dreams aren't logical, I know mine aren't! But the set-up was rather neat, not letting us know right away it was a dream, and it's kinda neat with everything he did to everyone else, he and Jack were still friends (until jack tried to shoot him!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaka's_Mum
    to me it seems like Danny was the ideal character to illustrate the concept of absolute power corrupting absolutely. If even he can't control himself, then we're all stuffed!
    Precisely the point TPTB were trying to make, I think. Well said!
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    I totally love this ep .
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    ^^^ Kinda sounds like seasons 9 and 10 of SG-1 to me. Thor, ya got Aspirin?

    AGateFan has officially Gone Fishin (with Jack, Sam, Daniel, Teal'c) and is hoping Atlantis does not take that same hairpin turn.

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    Ghahhhh! evil Daniel? why, why why? Okay, I saw this the first time, catching it just before we blew up moscow.... ehrr... Daniel blew up mascow, that's what I mean, right?
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    I caught frogs and called them prince
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    Before you knew me I traveled 'round the world
    I slept in castles and fell in love
    Because I was taught to dream

    I found mayonnaise bottles and poked holes on top
    To capture tinkerbell
    They were just fireflies to the untrained eye
    But I could always tell

    I believe in fairytales and dreamers dreams like bed sheet sails
    And I believe in Peter Pan and miracles
    And anything I can to get by
    And fireflies...

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    He did indeed. It was not fun watching Red Square disappearing in whopper fireball either as an event in itself or in knowing who it was that had pulled the proverbial trigger. Both of these aspects were incredibly shocking.

    That Shifu was a clever little tyke, though. He was pointing out the perils of getting your mitts on advanced offensive technology you can't handle to the one person who might actually take heed of the lesson and not try to rationalise it away using the 'greater good' argument. I imagine Daniel must have been seriously shocked at his own behaviour once he woke up - even with his principles and beliefs, he still wiped out an entire city. Brr.

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    I truely like this ep, my pseudo gives it as an evidence it is quite philosophic (sg is not only space battles and p90 shots... ) and very demonstratic of the influence of power even with "good" men (who better than Daniel...?)
    and surprise: he is ascended! link with buddhism is well found

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    Quote Originally Posted by harsiesis child
    I truely like this ep, my pseudo gives it as an evidence it is quite philosophic (sg is not only space battles and p90 shots... ) and very demonstratic of the influence of power even with "good" men (who better than Daniel...?)
    and surprise: he is ascended! link with buddhism is well found
    What's wrong with space battles and p-90 shots??

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    Quote Originally Posted by captain jake
    What's wrong with space battles and p-90 shots??
    nothing... sg is also very enjoyable for this, but sometimes I have the impression that sg is watched only for this, which is a bit a pity... it cannot be reduced to action sometimes more philosopical (this one) or mystical episodes (fifth race, crystall skull...) are well too

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    I know what you mean. The action stuff is great fun, but it's sometimes nice to step back from that and examine the moral implications of what the Tauri are getting themselves into when they start mucking about with advanced technology.

    We often see SG-1 discovering a person/community/planet in need of assistance, and rendering that assistance to the benefit of all and sundry. However, it can't always be like that because (fictional drama notwithstanding) SG-1 is still populated by fallible people who are going to muck up from time to time - and, as we know, they do. This gives Daniel the opportunity to really royally muck up - the absolute muck up to end all muck ups - without lasting consequences. Apart from the lesson he has learned, of course.

    It's a nice change of pace to act as a counterpoint for all the space battles.

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