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    Goa'uld gate ship why not a specialised ship??

    i know we have seen the gate ship of sorts in the episode into the fire but that ship was not used for a long time so i was wondering why didt the Goa'uld design a ship specialised for gate travel, as far as i know death gliders cannot fit inside the gate and the power hungy goa'uld who like to use scare tactics if you can even call them a tactical race you would think that they would relish the the thought of sending a squad of their heavily armed ships to terrorise a planet and exercise their dominace over them but we never got to see this, they did but it always bugged me since season 3 why they never revised the ship or built another ship entirely for such a task.
    i cannot think of a reason why TPTB never introduced such a vessle later after or just prior to that episode, it may have been asked before but the search is not working for me and my computer is woefully slow tonight so it will not load the pages i want so i poster this now to discuss a possible reason and remedy if the goa'uld are ever to return at all in the forseeable future ie: season 10 and beyond.
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    Originally posted by Darkstar
    i know we have seen the gate ship of sorts in the episode into the fire but that ship was not used for a long time so i was wondering why didt the Goa'uld design a ship specialised for gate travel, as far as i know death gliders cannot fit inside the gate and the power hungy goa'uld who like to use scare tactics if you can even call them a tactical race you would think that they would relish the the thought of sending a squad of their heavily armed ships to terrorise a planet and exercise their dominace over them but we never got to see this, they did but it always bugged me since season 3 why they never revised the ship or built another ship entirely for such a task.
    i cannot think of a reason why TPTB never introduced such a vessle later after or just prior to that episode, it may have been asked before but the search is not working for me and my computer is woefully slow tonight so it will not load the pages i want so i poster this now to discuss a possible reason and remedy if the goa'uld are ever to return at all in the forseeable future ie: season 10 and beyond.

    The Goa'uld are not strategic. Apophis probably used the Stargate to easily transport troops and items directly to the ship... Or it could be one of the convenient plot devices by the writers so SG1 could get on the ship. But really, that could just be an Apophis thing. Just because he did it, it doesn't mean other Gou'alds are inclined to try the same thing.

    I think that they should put a Stargate on one of these new Deadalus class ships... That would just be neat.

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      #3
      Yes, Id have thought theyd have Gates on ships by now.
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        #4
        I thought they didnt use the goa'ulds gate ships cause they were so hard to control/fly, i geuss ill have to rewatch the ep again to find out
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          #5
          Originally posted by eoin
          I thought they didnt use the goa'ulds gate ships cause they were so hard to control/fly, i geuss ill have to rewatch the ep again to find out

          The gate ship is very hard to control due to its speed if I remember correctly, also the gou'ald as stated before are not that strategically minded, its all about power and ego, its easier for a gou'ald to sit in orbit in his big ship armada and pound the people on the planet then after a reasonable whooping they would send the death gliders and alkesh(sp) in to mob up the gravy so to speak, why expend resources developing a ship that is not really going to make that much of a difference. I think that is the main reason they dont do that besides have you noticed how bad shots the jaffa are in those deathgliders how much worse do you think it would be it the ship went fast like the gate ship?

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            #6
            Puddle jumpers have an advanced guidance system that allows even novice pilots to "thread the needle" without a problem.

            However, Goa'uld tech is not nearly as advanced, and the Goa'uld obviously stopped trusting their pilots not to hit the gate (which could cause problems than it's worth, particularly at high speeds).

            In later seasons, they'd be mad to trust the Jaffa at all, for fear of putting weapons in the rebels' hands. The Kull warriors don't strike me as natural pilots either.

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              "thread the needle"

              Didn't that ship crash on planet? The one Brat'ac and Hammond got to function again. Hammonds best line 'Yahhhoooo'
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                All logical arguments aside, I'm quite glad they didn't simply because it would've taken away from the Wraith methods.
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                  I'd love a human built fighter built to go through the gate.
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                    #10
                    i would put a gate at the back of the ship hangar this infintly ups fighter capacity because you just have a masive garison on a planet send ship dial gate launch fighters via gate you can luach 100s of fighter via something no bigger than a 303/304

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                      #11
                      The Goa'uld Gate Glider just wasnt accurate enough with Jaffa pilots who would need to be veterans to pilot them across the gate and well its not like the Jaffa have an excellent training regime in terms of pilots. Its more like practice and if you survive then good if you die then you died for your god. So it would have been pointless to continue construction of gate gliders unless the Goa'uld developed some good pilots or advanced AI system to the the 'threading'.


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                        #12
                        Originally posted by eps200 View Post
                        i would put a gate at the back of the ship hangar this infintly ups fighter capacity because you just have a masive garison on a planet send ship dial gate launch fighters via gate you can luach 100s of fighter via something no bigger than a 303/304
                        i might have mis understood you, but if you put a gate on ship and it get close enuff to a planet then its "on the grid" and both gates have the same address so u couldn't dial that planet n send gliders thru. it would only able to do it from another planet but then whats the point of a spaceship. as far as i kno u can't dial a gate from the middle of space

                        daniel jackson did this on apohis's ship when they carried a stargate and so did the new sg1 when they were stealing back stargates from ba'al and when o'neil and carter got stuck in the antartic

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                          #13
                          It seems like deathgliders are the guaoulds best attempt to ripoff a gateship, but without being able to initialize it, and then the f302 is based off the glider. Now that they have both id like to see some changes.

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                            #14
                            I think it'd be extremely hard to pilot any ship without advanced self-control like the PJ through something as (relatively) small as the stargate, crashing on the planet would make a reaaaal good impression on the locals

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                              #15
                              The Goa'uld Gate ship was an old technology which few knew about and even fewer could fly.

                              I am sure at one point the goa'uld used them. But not in hudge demand. They can only fit through a gate one at a time and so would be rubbish in a war. You you would need to do is fire at the gate as they came through. Also the Goa'uld like to scare, which is why they normally arrive in Ha'taks, There a gate ship would not be needed for that.

                              Maybe the one Bra'tac had was just a prototype, or was only used in specail occasions, MW space gates maybe?
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