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    Visit the Episode GuideGALACTICA SEASON TWO
    FLIGHT OF THE PHOENIX
    EPISODE NUMBER - 209

    The Galactica is struck with a Cylon computer virus that threatens to kill the crew, forcing Adama to go to their Cylon prisoner. Chief Tyrol throws himself into the impossible task of building a Viper from scratch.

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    One of the second best episodes of the season (Home, Part 2 is the best this season). Loved the new viper.

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    i thought it was great too, i hope they build more of the new vipers, though coming up with parts could be hard. cant wait for next weeks episode

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    Default Re: Flight of the Phoenix (209)

    I missed the first airing (will catch it in the next 30 minutes), but is it really the end of the season after pegasus or is it still season 2 in January?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bl4de
    I missed the first airing (will catch it in the next 30 minutes), but is it really the end of the season after pegasus or is it still season 2 in January?
    no pegasus is the mid-season finale, should be back for the second half in january with sg1 and atlantis

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    I loved this episode. BSG is getting better with time. High notes to me:

    *Roslin and Adama's talk in the middle and at the end
    *Chief naming the ship "Laura"...that was awesome!
    *The new ships rocks! Damn, it is fast too!
    *The scene where the Vipers tore up the Raiders...awesome

    I can't believe Roslin only has a couple of week to a month top. AHH! I really like Laura Roslin.

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    I have a feeling that whole thing was a ploy in order for Sharon to gain more trust. Other possibility could have been that the Cylons were going to board Galactica and take Sharon by force and then destroy Galactica, but I still donít think that was the plan. I think the Cylons want her aboard Galactica for a reason.

    Sharon. Fiber optic cable. Hand. Any ideas how she transmits a command by doing that.

    Okay I just really had to suspend my disbelief about the Chief building a Viper from scratch in what two, three weeks tops and only working when off-duty. Iím not saying he couldnít build one from scratch, I just find that time period a little impossible. Heck it might have been even less than that. I know others were helping but he had to be there to supervise, and heís still got a day job.

    And Helo coming up with the idea to use that material for the skin. Okay I know they were looking for a way to ender him to the crew, but that?

    Explosive rounds in the shooting range? Didnít think we wanted to waste those. Never mind how close Kara and Lee were to the door that got blown of its hingesÖ.

    Okay. I guess they arenít as low on Vipers as I thought they were. When they were facing off with the Cylons, I counted at least 39 Vipers, maybe give or take a few.

    I wonder if Adama has an inkling about what is going on with Roslin. I know everybody knows she is dying but as far as they know thatís a couple of months away.

    Good episode nonetheless. Didnít really advance any plot (other than dealing with the Cylon virus from ďScatteredĒ), but as usual some nice character moments. All the scenes with Roslin were great. I was thinking to myself that there was no way these people were going to waste a bottle of champagne on a ship, and then Roslin fakes them out. LOL! Probably about giving Tigh a heart attack.
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    IMO always implied.

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    That was a great episode! For some reason based upon the description I was not expecting much from this episode, I was pleasently suprised.

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    Wow...just....wow

    That was a true experience

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    Good episode.

    It seemed to me that Adama suspected the truth about Roslin not having much longer but was afraid to say something.

    As far as how long it took to build the new ship it's not as far fetched as one might think. There is a show called Junkyard Wars on the "Science Channel" and one episode had teams building airplanes for the Anniversary of the Wright Brother's Flight.

    They had 20 hours to build them using only tools and parts available at the turn of the Century. The parts all had to be found in the junkyard. All three actually got into the air and flew short distances.

    The Chief on the show was doing basically the same thing using existing parts and technology. And as an engineer he might have had ideas for years on how to build a better Viper and finally had his chance. (notice it didn't actually show him drawing up those blue prints!)

    And yes I wondered where all those Vipers came from too. My understanding was that there were only a dozen still flyable with a bunch out of commission.

    Another thing since the Pegasus appears in the next episode I wonder if Admiral Cain picks up the Cylon transmissions and is coming to investigate or will they meet some other way?

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    That just seemed like an awful lot of fabrication that was being done for such a complex machine. All the cutting and welding and grinding of the frame alone has to be time consuming. Tyrol had an awful lot of the frame constructed before anyone finally decided to help him. That seemed like a lot of work for one man to have done in any short period of time. Then later with all the cutting and fitting of the carbon fiber skin. The wiring was probably the easiest part of the whole project.

    But then what do I know since Iíve never done anything like that before. Closest Iíve ever come is watching those automotive shows where the guys build/remodel a vehicle from the ground up. And thatís usually with pre-fabbed pieces.
    IMO always implied.

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    When they launched the new fighter did Starbuck lose control of it or was she intending to fly like that?

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    That wasn't too bad an episode... I'm really liking Chief a lot more as the storyline progresses. He's a man who has lost everything but that which is innately his. I have a lot of sympathy for him. Great to see his project become such a symbol of hope for all the crew.
    Helo, on the other hand,... not so much... I'm not sure where they're going with him, quite frankly. On Caprica, he was this resourceful, thoughtful soldier and now, he's turning into a namby pamby...

    BSG's strength really lies with its characterization and this is one episode which really proves it in that the parts are better than the whole. As a whole, the story feels derivative but the little moments between people is what makes it better than the overall story.
    Quote Originally Posted by LoneStar1836
    I have a feeling that whole thing was a ploy in order for Sharon to gain more trust. Other possibility could have been that the Cylons were going to board Galactica and take Sharon by force and then destroy Galactica, but I still donít think that was the plan. I think the Cylons want her aboard Galactica for a reason.
    I share similar suspicions... Poor SharonCylon... she is going to have to work hard to prove where her loyalties really lie. But perhaps she isn't ultimately the problem and that she's just as much a pawn in the cylon scheme of things.

    But the best moments in this episodes are undoubtedly between Adama and Roslin. One can't help but feel that they communicate on so many different levels and that in another time and place they would've been more than colleagues. Each seems to be able to match the other's intensity and both carry an inner strength that drives them to survive. They are both survivors and that's why they are a great team, when they're not doing things behind one another's back.

    "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth"

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    Smile A Marine Sharon?

    It lasts about 2 seconds: another Sharon in Marine gear. And the camera focus is on her, not the prisoner Sharon in background.
    I wonder how could she hide for so long since most people should have recognized her by now.
    Or it's because I am so into Grace?

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    Quote Originally Posted by busuan
    It lasts about 2 seconds: another Sharon in Marine gear. And the camera focus is on her, not the prisoner Sharon in background.
    I wonder how could she hide for so long since most people should have recognized her by now.
    Or it's because I am so into Grace?
    How far into the episode did you see this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoneStar1836
    I have a feeling that whole thing was a ploy in order for Sharon to gain more trust. Other possibility could have been that the Cylons were going to board Galactica and take Sharon by force and then destroy Galactica, but I still donít think that was the plan. I think the Cylons want her aboard Galactica for a reason.

    Sharon. Fiber optic cable. Hand. Any ideas how she transmits a command by doing that.

    Okay I just really had to suspend my disbelief about the Chief building a Viper from scratch in what two, three weeks tops and only working when off-duty. Iím not saying he couldnít build one from scratch, I just find that time period a little impossible. Heck it might have been even less than that. I know others were helping but he had to be there to supervise, and heís still got a day job.

    And Helo coming up with the idea to use that material for the skin. Okay I know they were looking for a way to ender him to the crew, but that?

    Explosive rounds in the shooting range? Didnít think we wanted to waste those. Never mind how close Kara and Lee were to the door that got blown of its hingesÖ.

    Okay. I guess they arenít as low on Vipers as I thought they were. When they were facing off with the Cylons, I counted at least 39 Vipers, maybe give or take a few.

    I wonder if Adama has an inkling about what is going on with Roslin. I know everybody knows she is dying but as far as they know thatís a couple of months away.

    Good episode nonetheless. Didnít really advance any plot (other than dealing with the Cylon virus from ďScatteredĒ), but as usual some nice character moments. All the scenes with Roslin were great. I was thinking to myself that there was no way these people were going to waste a bottle of champagne on a ship, and then Roslin fakes them out. LOL! Probably about giving Tigh a heart attack.

    I'd have to go with the Cyclons doing a boarding and breaking her out. There were quite a few boarding ships in the fleet they sent. Also, she's the only one with a successful pregnancy. The cyclons have a MASSIVE fleet and can afford the combat losses necessary to break her out. Whereas Galactica can't even resupply (not until they get to the clone planet).

    Sharon would have to have some kind of laser in her arm, probably in her nervous system. Don't forget the mini-series when Six's spine glowed when she and Baltar were having sex. The interesting part is how the Humanoid Cylons can still pass for human during a body scan but be able to directly interface with a fiber optic cable.

    Chief didn't build a viper from scratch in 3 weeks, Chief Tyro started the project and everyone pitched in with their specialty. A lot of the larger parts were pre-fabbed. Engines were taken as scrap, joystick probably from a scrapped Viper, etc...

    Did the door get blown off its hinges or just swing open quickly? I don't have an Xvid of it. I know Lee couldn't open it because of the pressure difference.

    There were also several newer Vipers in the mix. Guess they finally made them virus proof or loaded the 20 yr old Viper code onto them.

    I can't believe Sharon didn't cut a better deal for herself. Like a TV set or human contact visits.

    Another thing, if I was Adama I would of asked Sharon how long the Virus would last for. The Cylon boarding ships would have to be destroyed since they would have Centurions on them, but the raiders could be used. If not as an entire ship like Starbuck used it then they could use them for parts and learn more about the Cylons and potential weaknesses.

    I don't get why everyone doesn't like Helo. Let's be real here. Everyone loved Sharon until she put 2 rounds in the Commander. Helo was stuck ALONE on Caprica for months with what he thought was a human but was actually a Cylon that saved his life repeatedly. And what's more, she is pregnant. Men protect their children, it's genetically programmed into us else the human species would be defunct (and possible wiped out) in a few generations. Also, its not like Helo is a newcomer to the Galactica. He did serve on it before he stranded himself on Caprica.

    Now I wonder, will Doctor Baltar go over to the cylon warship side and start pursuing the Fleet?
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    One thing I don't get is why they haven't done an autopsy on the dead Boomer model they have in the morgue (or if they have, they haven't mentioned it in the episodes yet). They could learn a wealth of biological knowledge from that.

    As to the sudden hatred everyone has for Sharon and Helo, I'm of the opinion that it harks back to Colonial society. The little glimpses we get now and then of what life was life before the Cylon attack seems to imply that the Colonies didn't have the same sense of basic human rights and due process that we have. Everyone is so quick to fight amongst themselves and resort to violence. And while I'm willing to admit that a large chunk of that has to do with the stress of being on the run, violence and in-fighting seem to be ingrained within Colonial culture. I'm beginning to wonder if the Cylons may have had the right idea.

    In other news, seeing Gaeta finally lose his cool was a bit unsettling. The rock, the iceman of the fleet reaches the end of his rope at last. And why oh why are they apparently setting up a Dualla-Billy-Apollo love triangle? Please don't, guys...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thermonuclearboy
    One thing I don't get is why they haven't done an autopsy on the dead Boomer model they have in the morgue (or if they have, they haven't mentioned it in the episodes yet). They could learn a wealth of biological knowledge from that.
    Don't forget they already autopsied the Cylon that was on Ragnarok station. The one from the mini-series. I forget the name.

    Also, was it me or did they make her (Boomer #2) out to be Hannibal Lecter?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carbito
    How far into the episode did you see this?
    I'm sorry I can't get a screen cap, but it's just as the marines are leading Sharon into the CIC, the camera focuses in on a marine as Sharon is being lead by in the background. I downloaded the episode off of Bittorrent, and by that clock, it's about 28 minutes into the episode.

    Looking closely at the image, there is a resemblance to Grace Park. Unless this cylon is hiding herself very well, I highly doubt she would be able to stay on Galacitca for long. She did shoot the commander, after all.

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    Another great episode! I'm not sure how I'm gonna handle the season break!

    Some things I noticed...

    We don't see Six appear the entire episode and Baltar seems rather jumpy (even for him) when he and Felix Gaeta are explaining the possible ramifications of the Cylon virus.

    Also, did anyone notice Gaeta rolling his eyes at Baltar a couple of times during that scene? It was when Baltar was interupting, wonder if Gaeta's former admiration for the good doctor is starting to wear thin?

    They are definitely setting up some sort of attraction between Dee and Apollo. One of the funniest parts of the ep to me was when Apollo was chatting with Starbuck next to the under-construction viper and Dee slides out from beneath. Apollo's reaction, his tone of voice really, just screamed "Ummm, this is awkward."

    Maybe Billy really is a Cylon as others have proposed. Then Apollo could end up with Dee and Starbuck could be re-united with cute boyfriend still back on Caprica? Just a thought...

    Another thought - if Laura Roslin is really going to succomb to cancer in a few short weeks (although I'm praying for a miracle) won't that leave Baltar as the President by default? That can't be a good thing for the fleet!

    By far my favorite scene was when they christened the new viper. When I saw the name, I teared up - yes I'm a big sap, but there it is. It was just such a great moment. You could see how much it meant to Roslin.

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