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    Quote Originally Posted by Martina Magnus View Post
    I hate Kinsey ... But Jack and Harry ... They were hilarious
    haha, Starsky and Hutch were great! and Kinsey's wife just didn't get it
    I agree that there was too much Kinsey, but Oskar (Zoe?) was soo cute.
    And I really liked the SG-1-Hammond parts.. You see that not only he is concerned for the team, but also vise versa.

    Especially when Jack visits him home. Too bad we didn't see more of Hammond off duty

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    Loved Teal'c's comment about how on Chulak they'd sing a lament in the honor of a great warrior who retired from the battlefield, and how fortunate it was that they weren't on Chulak. This one featured two of my favorite villains, Kinsey and Maybourne.
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    what did Jack mean by "buy back my soul?"

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    I'd forgotten how great this episode was, a really enjoyable and fun little outing with tons of intrigue. Episodes like this often click with me, it's in the same vein as Secrets and Touchstone which I love. I'm so happy that Kinsey was brought back for this, he's such a good bad guy, and Maybourne is always fun.

    It's interesting, though, the character of Maybourne has really gone through some changes to fit the stories which the writers need him for. The super-secret black-ops intelligence man he becomes was not the same character we were originally introduced to (back in 'Bane'?), and even last season in 'Foothold' he wasn't at all like he is presented here, but it's a change for the better. He's very entertaining when he shows up.

    I also love it when we get to see the other side of General Hammond, he's a great character which Don Davis played perfectly. Carter, Daniel and Teal'c are really overshadowed by everything else going on in this episode despite the fact that they are get to deal with an ENTIRE PLANET blowing up - which really speaks to how good Hammond, O'Neill, Kinsey and Maybourne are to watch.

    RATING: 8.5 out of 10

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeftHandedGuitarist View Post
    It's interesting, though, the character of Maybourne has really gone through some changes to fit the stories which the writers need him for. The super-secret black-ops intelligence man he becomes was not the same character we were originally introduced to (back in 'Bane'?), and even last season in 'Foothold' he wasn't at all like he is presented here, but it's a change for the better. He's very entertaining when he shows up.
    Maybourne was introduced in Season 1, "Enigma" when he tried to appropriate the Tollan refugees and then would have them all shot in the gateroom for trying to leave with Lya (of the Nox). His next appearance was in "Bane", then "Touchstone", and so on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lt.Colonel John Sheppard View Post
    what did Jack mean by "buy back my soul?"
    Because he made a deal with the devil (i.e., Maybourne) to get Hammond reinstated.

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    How long was Bauer actually in charge of SGC and how long was Sam working on that fancy lethal machine?
    After dismantling SG1, what was the official position of O'Neil?
    I didn't exactly get what got Maybourne out of jail to the Caribbean. Did he receive a presidential pardon for exposing the shenanigans of the NID? And how did it happen if the NID was above the law?
    Why are most of the office rooms in Cheyenne Mountain so dark even when lights are on?
    Since Hammond's granddaughters were playing and returned to his house it would appear they had no parents and that he was now taking care of the kids. Yet when he talked to one of them in a previous episode when she invited to a performance or something, it appeared as if they were living somewhere else.
    Why does Maybourne feel so secure in his tropical paradise, with no fear that someone is going to finish him off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave2 View Post
    How long was Bauer actually in charge of SGC and how long was Sam working on that fancy lethal machine?
    Probably no more than a few days; maybe a week?

    After dismantling SG1, what was the official position of O'Neil?
    It was not explained. However, Jack probably took Bauer at his suggestion of taking some time off to decide whether and where he wanted to fit in at the SGC. So he took off to investigate and see what he could come up with about the whole situation.

    I didn't exactly get what got Maybourne out of jail to the Caribbean. Did he receive a presidential pardon for exposing the shenanigans of the NID?
    Jack got Maybourne out of jail by asking for a favor from the President, who he apparently knows from some point in the past (which was never explained). Then at some point after they left Kinsey's mansion, Maybourne managed to disappear and wind up in the Caribbean. He didn't get a Presidential Pardon, since he's still looking for one at the beginning of "Paradise Lost" in Season 6.

    Since Hammond's granddaughters were playing and returned to his house it would appear they had no parents and that he was now taking care of the kids. Yet when he talked to one of them in a previous episode when she invited him to a performance or something, it appeared as if they were living somewhere else.
    Hammond has at least one daughter. Since she probably works somewhere, her children maybe stay with Hammond, or they might all live with him. Hammond is a widower, so maybe he likes having them with him. It was really never explained.

    Why does Maybourne feel so secure in his tropical paradise, with no fear that someone is going to finish him off?
    If you're referring to the Caribbean, there is no reason to think he's going to stay there for very long. He's likely to move around a lot since he's still a wanted person. He seems to have a great deal of knowledge somehow as to what's going on all the time, so he's likely one step ahead of anyone that's looking for him.

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    The destruction of the planet was all because of Samantha Carter who was simply "following orders." But presumably it was well within her ability to sabotage the device so it wouldn't create the chain reaction of the nuclear/naquadah device. Alternatively she could have risked court marshal for refusing to obey Bauer. But she have still come out of it OK and not destroy the planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave2 View Post
    The destruction of the planet was all because of Samantha Carter who was simply "following orders."
    While there was clearly a lot of destruction, we don't know that the entire planet was destroyed. In fact, it probably wasn't because if it had been, its gate would also be destroyed. At which point the wormhole would disconnect and the SGC wouldn't have a problem.

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    Tuesday night...and another ep of SG1...by this point I was certainly checking out this site called "Starguide" though whether I'd posted on the forum there or not I'm not sure...

    1. The SGC certainly took some damage here...

    2. Hammond quitting...sort of been spoiled for this part but...

    3. Certainly our biggest delve into Stargate politics yet though...

    4. Bauer...stuffed shirt and complete moron.

    5. That last scene in Kinsey's study...can play it again and again...awesome!

    Certainly the best Earthbound ep of SG1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seaboe Muffinchucker View Post
    While there was clearly a lot of destruction, we don't know that the entire planet was destroyed. In fact, it probably wasn't because if it had been, its gate would also be destroyed. At which point the wormhole would disconnect and the SGC wouldn't have a problem.
    Seaboe
    Well the planet may still be physically there, judging by the amount of radiation that was pouring through the gate, even with the iris closed, any plant life, animal life etc would have likely been destroyed by the radiation. If the amount coming through the iris was concerning Sam, imagine what it did to the planet. IMO the planet is technically destroyed, if all life ceases to exist. Can't be 100% sure, but I assume everything on that planet that was once living, is dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bookwormjules View Post
    IMO the planet is technically destroyed, if all life ceases to exist.
    Taking our own as an example, planets (and the life on them) are extremely resilient. While 99% of the life might be gone for now, I don't consider the planet destroyed unless it's broken up into little bits and strewn through space. Clearly, this is an issue where we'll have to agree to disagree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bookwormjules View Post
    Well the planet may still be physically there, judging by the amount of radiation that was pouring through the gate, even with the iris closed, any plant life, animal life etc would have likely been destroyed by the radiation. If the amount coming through the iris was concerning Sam, imagine what it did to the planet. IMO the planet is technically destroyed, if all life ceases to exist. Can't be 100% sure, but I assume everything on that planet that was once living, is dead.
    It depends on how destructive that weapon actually was. While it could have caused catastrophic damage to the atmosphere, and maybe taken a good chunk of the planet out, there would likely still be remnants of life, even at the tiny level that would have started life again, though it would have taken hundreds or thousands of years to amount to anything. The only way your scenario would be true is if the atmosphere was destroyed completely or if the planet had been blown to bits. And I really don't think that happened.

    And life does survive radiation.

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    Not the most entertaining ep. But still has some good parts. Would have been a shocker for first time viewers when Hammond retired. So glad he sticks around for a bit longer.

    Jack and Maybourne working together is great to watch.

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    A pretty good Jack/Maybourne episode.

    So Hammond was forced to retire by the NID, and replaced by a dick of a commander who disbanded.

    Stuff from the commentary:
    • When Gen Bauer enter the gate room for the first time, the female extra winked at RDA (causing this reaction)
    • Kinsey & Hammond's house was the same location (the back for Hammond's house, the front for Kinsey's house)
    • Tom McBeath doesn't know who to use a computer
    • The guys in the background are German reporters. They became famous when they got back to Germany, and when the commentary was recorded they were back:
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    • RDA's actual Dog (Zooey) is Kinsey's dog. Oscar is the name of Robert Cooper's dog.


    Tomorrow, SG-1 goes back to a year ago.

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    My LiveJournal post

    Poor Hammond.
    "Thanks to denial, I'm immortal."
    "A big 'Hello' to all intelligent life out there, and for everyone else, the secret is to bang the rocks together, guys!"
    "Excuse me, barmaid? You seem to have brought me the wrong offspring. I ordered an extra large boy with beefy arms, extra guts and glory on the side. This here, this is a talking fishbone!"
    "I'm Jack. It means... what's in the box?"


    >-- Czechs Rock! >--

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    Any episode with that lovable rogue Maybourne is a good one for me. The interaction between him and Jack is always fun to watch.

    I guess Jack will step into that shade of grey area when things that matter to him are threatened. Selling his soul to the devil is an apt phrase here, guess he still can't believe he worked with Maybourne, but they did help eachother. Maybourne seems to have a conscience buried deep somewhere. I think this is what made their interaction so much fun, Jack had to do more distasteful things, Maybourne actually began to think about doing the right thing and they sort of met in the middle.

    Hammond was great in this too. For all that he was in it for the shortest time, it was his moments with Jack and SG-1, telling them that he'd had enough and then the real reason he stepped down that were the most memorable.

    When it comes to prize 'patsies' General Bauer was a real piece of work, an attitude that clearly invited disaster at every turn! He was a wonderful example of everything that Hammond was not! Nicely played out.

    The place where Jack and Maybourne sat and ate their hot dogs was filmed in Sunset Beach Park, in the False Creek area of Vancouver. That was the same place as the scene with Sheppard in SGA's 'Rising' when he was sitting in the park contemplating whether to go to Atlantis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krisz View Post
    Maybourne seems to have a conscience buried deep somewhere.
    Maybourne said once that he and Jack have the same goals; they just don't have the same methods. I believe Maybourne has always had a conscience, because he has the same goals.

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    I enjoyed how Maybourne became a spy/black ops guy. And his interactions with Jack were always good. I did question why O'Neill, as a special forces colonel, would be uncomfortable doing some of the things Maybourne did.

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