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    Quote Originally Posted by stargate barbie
    this is one of my favourite episodes and i'm not sure why.
    other than the fact it's got jacob carter in it and the following lines:
    daniel: its gone green.
    sam: green is good?
    daniel: no
    sam: green is bad?
    daniel: yeah
    sam: DAD!

    i just love that.
    Green is always good.

    Quote Originally Posted by bcmilco
    I was a little disapointed that they killed off Heru'ur, he was a pretty good bad guy IMO. Otherwise it was good and had some great banter.

    I also really like the Teal'c torture stuff. Not that I like to see Teal'c get tortured, just that I thought they did it well. and Terok was just insane.

    No really I think he was insane
    I always thought of Her'ur as the punk kid. Since he was the son of Ra and his earing. His Jaffa were sweet though. I wish that there would be other Goa'uld with Jaffa with head thingys.

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    It would certainly be cool to see Anubis' Jaffa helmets. We got a taste of that in the movie, and to see thos things all the time? Talk about .
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    What an excellent episode!!!!
    love everything in it!!!

    the face that Jack did when he saw tortured Tea'lc was priceless!

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    My Fave bits (no particular order)

    1. The Briefing where Jacob needs Sam for the mechanics, Daniel for translation and Jack.... well he's always lot's of fun to have around! LOL!

    2. The elevator scene between Jack and Daniel where Jack lifts D's glasses back onto his nose and the whole Phoenican on CD Rom thing...

    3. The re-program the bomb scene, funny and shippy - note Jack leaning on Sam to look under, him saving her by pulling her out from underneath etc sigh!

    4. The Daniel/Jacob conversation regarding the Go'auld... Great and Powerful Oz! LOL The first time I saw that I spat my drink!!!

    5. Jack flying the ship and the whole waving the arm in the background thing. I love it when the show's writers do that sort of thing, its so clever !!
    I agree, these were great moments, well said!

    I personally quite liked Heru-ur (and I thought he was really hot ), so I was sad to see his demise. I like the idea someone proposed of having Apophis be killed off and Heru-ur become the new main villian. I'm so SICK of Apophis at this point. He's such a little priss (better now that he has the ugly scar, though). No offense to Peter Williams!

    The character interaction and humour in this episode was fantastic. I love Jacob so that was a huge bonus, especially since his presence in an ep usually gaurantees some good character development and humour.

    I would love to hear more about the Toban. Were they somehow Ancient descended or seeded? What caused their demise? How early on (or how long ago, in earth history) did they become so technologically advanced? I know that the Phoenicians were one of the most advanced ancient cultures, in particular good sailors/navigators. I wish we could see this entire culture explored more...

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    This was a great episode, seeing the fleet uncloak never gets old! and as for Terok, that guy was genuinely scary!!! just remembering his face when he used the hand device and was about to kill teal'c...... *shudders*
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    Loved this episode as well. Great how Daniel did the translations, but Sam interjected the math, to include zero. Jack'c comments about Jacob's flying were great too.

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    Really good episode, nice to have one with jacob in as well. Teal'cs torture was really well done, terok was very well acted. It was funny as well when jacob said he needed sam and daniel on board with him, and jack gave him a look (like please pick me) and jacob said something like *it's always interesting to have Col. O'neill come along as well*

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    This is an Stargate Episode that you can watch over and over and it never loses anyhting, it also keeps you guessing becuase you dont see something one time and then the next, Bye Bye Heru'er

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    I loved this episode....i think this is the last episode with "the serpent" at the beginning

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    A classic SG-1 Episode. This episode was sooooo great. Not only did it have the whole green is good/is bad thing but the emotion behind Teal'c and Raknor was so amazing. It also showed us that when fighting against Apophis. You always need an Ace up your sleeve. OR you will come to a very sticky end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metarock Sam
    A classic SG-1 Episode. This episode was sooooo great. Not only did it have the whole green is good/is bad thing but the emotion behind Teal'c and Raknor was so amazing. It also showed us that when fighting against Apophis. You always need an Ace up your sleeve. OR you will come to a very sticky end.
    Indeed this is another classic SG-1 ep. I guess we cant technically term it a team ep since poor old teal'c is off doing his "own" thing... but then he gets to do more in this ep then he does in lots of other team eps. This show really tells us a lot about teal'c and introduces us to the wonderful Raknor.

    Sadly Heurur meets his end. I always thought he "looked" cool even if he may not have technically been cool. He was also the last that had Horus Gaurd and I liked their helmuts.

    This ep Apophis becomes the big threat that he was always destined to become.

    But the best part in this ep is the 1/3 team plus Jacob. Jacob what a great guest character. I always really liked him. His humor combined with Jack and Daniel and Carter. It was great. Lots of good lines, lots of good character looks. Just lots and lots of what made SG-1 the best scifi show for the last 9 years.

    I love this ep.
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    Jack trying to wave the mine out of the way was the highlight of the episode for me in terms of humor. Teal'c's torture session really let Judge show his acting skills in a different way than he usually has up to this point. Great episode.
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    yeah this was a great episode and it was brilliant if i had to give it a rating out of 10 i would give it a 8

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    Brillant episode! I love the Daniel-Jack-Sam-Jacob scenes and the the Teal'c scenes.

    Fantastic acting on CJ's part. He was so passionite(sp), so strong and prideful. I love how he turned that other Jaffa and that we heard more of his good deeds from his villien days.

    Daniel was so funny in this episode; elevator scene, telling Sam to touch and not to touch the casing, almost touching the casing with his papers.

    I love the scenes with Sam and her Dad, she looked pretty annoyed with him in some of the scenes but it was so dunny.

    Jack was a hoot as always; feeling left out on the mission (making a sound so Jacob would remember him and take him along, trying to fly the ship later on "this isn't as easy as it looked" waving his arm in the back ground.

    And there was shippiness Jack leaning on Sam to look under, him saving her by pulling her out from underneath, standing super close.

    Never really cared for Heru-ur that mcuh so I was glad he's out of the picture, made room for more interesting villien in the future like Bal'al(sp)

    All in all this is one of my favorite episodes of season 4.
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    Just an awesome ep.
    Jacob is really on his game in this ep.
    This is how to do a Teal'c torture ep. CJ plays this amazingly.
    Rak'nor is introduced. The Carter\Daniel\Jacob\Jack banter is perfect.

    The only bad thing is that herur gets the ax but hey he goes out in a blaze of glory so you cant ask for better.
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    ^^^ Kinda sounds like seasons 9 and 10 of SG-1 to me. Thor, ya got Aspirin?

    AGateFan has officially Gone Fishin (with Jack, Sam, Daniel, Teal'c) and is hoping Atlantis does not take that same hairpin turn.

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    Yea I just saw it today as well. Only thing was that SciFi messed up the schedule. The episode that was supposed to be on today was "Jolinar's Memories" but for some reason they showed this episode.
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    Apophis is so surprising, isn't he? You see him talking to Haeuer with all these slaves stroking his shoulders, so that he does look prissy and useless, then then he just comes up with something brilliant, like the uncloaked ships.

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    One thing I don't get with this episode is that the Cargo ship didn't decloak to ring the mine back into the minefield. When it was established in Tangent that use of the rings required the ship to decloak?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Carpenter View Post
    One thing I don't get with this episode is that the Cargo ship didn't decloak to ring the mine back into the minefield. When it was established in Tangent that use of the rings required the ship to decloak?
    Its like if I wanted to fire the weapons. To fire the weapons of say a Puddle Jumper requires you to decloak. It works the same way with the rings. Bascially to use anything besides the sublight engines require you to decloak your weapons
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    Quote Originally Posted by jelgate View Post
    Its like if I wanted to fire the weapons. To fire the weapons of say a Puddle Jumper requires you to decloak. It works the same way with the rings. Bascially to use anything besides the sublight engines require you to decloak your weapons
    I think you may have missed the question, when they ringed the mine off the ship after reprogramming it, they were cloaked as Pops had already shown up and they didn't decloak to ring the mine off. So I was wondering if there was a reason for this or if it was just a gaff by the writers?
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