The Ultimate Earth Ship Discussion Thread #SPOILERS#

[Seastallion]

smaller?? *winces* Who wants a Carrier to be small???

When I think of Carrier's, I think of very large and impressive ships. smaller...

I like the other improvements though...

[Avatar28]

smaller?? *winces* Who wants a Carrier to be small???

When I think of Carrier's, I think of very large and impressive ships. smaller...

I like the other improvements though...

Well, smaller doesn't necessarily mean small. They're still likely to be quite large. But smaller does mean they'll cost less (compared to what they would if they weren't smaller) to operate and build. It also allows them to be faster and more manuverable (or shall we say, less UNmanuverable), definitely a plus (not that 50 mph for something that large is slow).

They also are looking at cutting the crew down from 3500+ on the Nimitz class to 2500 or so (both numbers don't count the air wing).

Um, the island and control towers are being replaced with two smaller buildings that don't have as much of a radar signature which makes it stand out less on radar. The windows that were in the control tower would be replaced with large displays.

Oh yeah, and one of the biggest changes will be the electrical system being rebuilt with a much higher capacity one that can handle all the modern electronics that the older ships can't. Also there's talk I think of wiring them with fiber optics through the ship as well.

I think that covers most of it, or at least what's set and determined. The first ship should start production next year, but it's really still going to be something of a hybrid. The first TRUE next gen carrier won't be purchased until probably around 2009 and will enter service I think around 2018. :-(

Lots of cool stuff.

[!Dorentus!]

An asgard on every ship sounds like one of the best rules I've ever heard of, but I have doubts that a race like the asgard are going to 'baby-sit' us when it comes to the stuff on Daedalus that is out of our mental range on every ship. Why is the Asgard coming on Daedalus to Atlantis? Well, who wouldn't? there's no race that we know of that matches the Ancients tech and Hermiod probably thinks he can find a solution to the asgard's reproductive problems and a whole lot more. And he's probably a nice guy willing to help us out like most of the Asgard are.

-I think it would be cool if the wraith somehow find out about the Asgard (maybe when we hail a hive ship, they see Hermy) and really don't like the Asgard since without there tech they would have won and we have an episode where Hermy finds a solution to his reproductive problems in the Ancient database and the wraith try to sabotage the progress of his research or maybe destroy his research on his way back to Ida to try it out.
Who knows? maybe we see a little asgard emotion from Hermy?
One more thing, maybe someone could help me out is there a Hermiod in Norse mythology somewhere?

[tony]

yah but you see something just doesnt play out right in my mind for why Hermiod would just hitch a ride to atlantis on the Daedalus when the asgard could just send one of there ships to atlantis is probley shorter time than the Daedalus is taking to get there. so thats why i was thinking maybe they will place a asgard on all the Daedalus class ships till we get things down on our own but who knows...

[DAL SHAKKA MEL]

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In seige three Col. Cadwell told Mjr. Sheppard that the asguard had refused to give us wepons for the dedalus because they could be used against them, but I seam to remember in SG-1 it being said that the promie was outfited with asguard wepons. Was I wrong or was this a major plot hole?

[briguy213]

maybe you miss understood and they actually said shields.

[Wass]

I can’t recall exactly what was mention in SG-1 if the asgard do provide us with weapons they would quite old by asgard standards.

[greytop]

I recall that in S6, Disclosure; Thor said that he was there supervising the installation of Asgard shields and weapons on the Promtheus. The Asgard hyperdrive and beam came later.

[Giantevilhead]

Thor said that he was going to install Asgard designed weapons and shields so for all we know those railguns are the weapons the Asgard gave to the Daedalus.

[Qasim]

The daedalus has asgard weapons but they arent fully functional so that we dont use them against the asgard

Spoiler:

in the siege pt 3 originally we couldnt beam bombs onto other ships

[Ohper]

I'm pretty sure I remember it being said that the Prometheus was given Asgard-designed weapons systems. Two possibilities I can think of:

1. The railguns are "Asgard-designed weapons", but still not powerful enough to hurt the Asgard.
2. The weapons given to the Prommie aren't good enough to hurt the Asgard, and wouldn't be good enough to hurt the Wraith, but can still whoop on Anubis's fleet.

[jmoore032000]

Possible spoilers for seige 3








From what I have seen of the weapon systems they are not good enough to stay in a prolonged conflict because they are not strong enough power wise and not enough ammo can be provided for them. To become better ships a weapon system is needed that can do damage without requiring special delivery systems.

[Crazy Dino]

Which one would you rather have?

[Lord §okar]

Daedelus since it's somewhat capable whereas Prometheus... isn't.

[_Owen_]

Yes, I would probably take the Daedalus as well, it isn't perfect but it has more functionality.

Owen Macri