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    First time watcher!

    I'm so glad they killed Rothman, he was good for nothing. This ep was very good in terms of showing us some history of the Goa'uld. I hope they return to this planet to uncover things about their past...

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    I love this episode!!!
    we really get to see how caring Daniel is, and I love how he keeps trying to comunicate! so cute!
    I loved when they played catch with the symbiote head!
    and i love how Daniel wrote "<---This Way!" on the wall.
    it just cracks me up for some reason!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. Daniel Jackson View Post
    I love this episode!!!
    we really get to see how caring Daniel is, and I love how he keeps trying to comunicate! so cute!
    I loved when they played catch with the symbiote head!
    and i love how Daniel wrote "<---This Way!" on the wall.
    it just cracks me up for some reason!

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    Not only the way he wrote "this way" but Teal'c and Jack's exchange when they discover it. LOL!

    Interesting twist with the non-naquada symbiotes. Other than the lack of naquada, how exactly are they different? They don't use Jaffa so how do the incubate their young? Just in the lake? Is that a trick the naquada-bearing Goa'uld have lost the ability to do and they need Jaffa or something?

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    This was a good episode for Daniel, back to the language thing he is so good at. I kind of like the Unas in a way.

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    um, am i the only one who has noticed that the unas never designed some kind of simple helmet or mask to prevent symbiote attacks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by asdf1239 View Post
    um, am i the only one who has noticed that the unas never designed some kind of simple helmet or mask to prevent symbiote attacks?
    They did have bone necklaces in the neck, so why do they need more protection? They seem to be doing pretty fine.
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    Loved it, and of course with lots of Daniel how could it be any other way? I'm glad they got rid of Rothman too, he was just too hopeless for the missions...
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    Just watched this one on my DVDs, I'm very slowly going through my DVDs.....it kinda stinks I don't have seasons 6-9. But anyways I love this one because it is a Daniel episode, I thought the "tossing the symbiote head" part was pretty funny! I love it when Jack says to Teal'c "What if I'm not O"Neill?!" and Teal'c replies "Then I was not talking to you." They had me smiling, I think at times Teal'c can be the funniest character on the show. Even if I had see this episode before, it had been a quite awhile as I was surprised (once again!) that Rothman was a Goa'uld! He was kinda a interesting fellow but oh well I suppose he was slightly useless as a character. I liked Chaka or Chaaka or however it is spelled, . The Unas are a pretty interesting aliens, too bad they are pretty nonexistent in the final seasons of SG1 as well as SGA.

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    Daniel and his charismatic personality... even the language barrier is no match for it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pic View Post
    Interesting twist with the non-naquada symbiotes. Other than the lack of naquada, how exactly are they different? They don't use Jaffa so how do the incubate their young? Just in the lake? Is that a trick the naquada-bearing Goa'uld have lost the ability to do and they need Jaffa or something?
    These are very good questions. It's too bad they didn't go back and explore these later. I kinda wondered if the Goa'uld wouldn't have evolved even farther from the off-planet Goa'ulds considering they had been gone for several thousand years. I got the impression that the naquada increases the Goa'uld's ability to control its hosts, or it might have been the lack of a genetic memory of interaction with humans that made the Goa'uld in this episode incapable of full control over their hosts. Also it seems like this planet would have been ideal for capturing replacement symbiotes for rebel Jaffa.

    On another topic, I wanted to point out that Daniel removed the tape recorder from a plastic bag when he first started using it, then after he jumped in the pond it still worked. I assume the water was to keep it dry. I have to commend his anthropological dedication though.

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    O'Neill fills Rothman with lead. Buh bye, Dr. Rothman.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pic View Post
    Interesting twist with the non-naquada symbiotes. Other than the lack of naquada, how exactly are they different? They don't use Jaffa so how do the incubate their young? Just in the lake? Is that a trick the naquada-bearing Goa'uld have lost the ability to do and they need Jaffa or something?
    Goa'uld don't actually require incubation. Presumably, the evil goa'uld we've come to know could live their entire life cycle in the right water environment, same as these lake snakes. Of course, they'd never willingly do so. It would be mental/emotional torture.

    One of the episodes explains that the blending process was often unsuccessful before Jaffa were created. Young goa'uld were introduced to soon, and both the host and young goa-uld died. Success was assured by incubating the young to maturity before blending. The key, however, seems not to be incubation but rather waiting until maturity. A goa'uld can grow to maturity in a water environment.

    So, why were the Jaffa created? Why not leave the young in a water environment until maturity? The reason has less to do with biological need than with pursuit of power: a way to create strong, long-lived warrior-servants.

    At least, that's my understanding after watching way too much Stargate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brother Freyr View Post
    At least, that's my understanding after watching way too much Stargate.
    Is that even possible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by asdf1239 View Post
    um, am i the only one who has noticed that the unas never designed some kind of simple helmet or mask to prevent symbiote attacks?
    yes and odd that the SG teams don't add gorgets (neck armour) to the neck to stop that avenue of attack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mjwalshe View Post
    yes and odd that the SG teams don't add gorgets (neck armour) to the neck to stop that avenue of attack.
    Well, the SGC usually doesn't have to worry about flying symbiotes. This was the one and only time they encountered the primordial Goa'uld. Ever since Kawalsky and Sam fell victim to the Goa'uld/Tok'ra I think they've been a lot more careful and keeping an eye out off-world as well as in post mission exams. Overall they're only confronted with being snaked by an enemy and I doubt gorgets would stop them.
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    Tuesday night and another ep of SG1...

    1. As soon as I realised Daniel had been grabbed by an Unas well...I thought it was a straight rescue job. Let's face it(and I think Darren and David mentioned it in their S4 review) at this point Unas were beastly aliens alligned with the Goa'uld, end of.

    2. Chaka bopping about in front of the lake, what exactly was he doing? Confused the hell out of me.

    3. Don't remember seeing that brief Hawkins eye glow first time round.

    4. Interesting seeing the relationship between Daniel and Chaka go back and forth.

    5. Rothman as Goa'uld - didn't see that one coming, certainly wasn't a redshirt.

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    A pretty cool ep. The start of the friendship between Daniel and Chaka. The primordial Goa'uld made things interesting.

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    The episode was good indeed. I liked that we got the chance to see the Goa'uld's homeworld.
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    This was a good episode, season four seems to be full of them. Daniel and Chaka scenes were great, Daniels personality really shines here - his thirst at interacting with new cultures eventually comes out - we finally get a Daniel-centric episode where he doesn't either die or fall in love with some psychotic alien women.

    I always wondered about the naquada-goa'ulds versus the non-naquada ones. I wonder if something else set them apart and why it was introduced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fems View Post
    Well, the SGC usually doesn't have to worry about flying symbiotes. This was the one and only time they encountered the primordial Goa'uld. Ever since Kawalsky and Sam fell victim to the Goa'uld/Tok'ra I think they've been a lot more careful and keeping an eye out off-world as well as in post mission exams. Overall they're only confronted with being snaked by an enemy and I doubt gorgets would stop them.
    true - I suppose full face helmet and plate protecting the spinal cord would be better (but would mess up the acting) but after id posted I did some checking and the current body us Armour (interceptor) in use does have neck armour.

    Of topic but in Atlantis I always wondered why they did not have bobby trapped chest plates the wraith whacks you to feed and a hidden barb injects him with the poison.
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    Only Daniel would make friends with an Unas while its intentions were to feed him to his leader. Dr. Rothman becoming a Gou'ald didn't really bother me he was kind of annoying. In all this wasn't a bad episode.
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