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    Quote Originally Posted by escyos View Post
    Theres a part of the episode im kind of confused about. Maybe someone has a theory.
    How did Teal'c symbiote know of Teal'c fathers death, he would have had to have been the offsrping of a queen who witnessed the event (maybe that lady) but then how did Apophis's priests get the symbiote? (maybe they stole it, or that queen traded sides)
    The symbiote in Teal'c has all of the genetic memory of it's ancestors (not just the queen...but both parents...it has been speculated from comments on the show that Gou'ald can reproduce from queen only or from a combination). Since Teal'c's father was First Prime of Cronus when Teal'c was young, I can only assume that the first symbiote he received was decended from Cronus.

    The problem with this is that the symbiote would have matured and been replaced (usually takes @ 10 years) or have been killed and replaced by one of Apophos' symbiotes. I think that this can qualify as a writing inconsistency.

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    As if you could believe that a Goa'uld would be sorry for what it was and turn over a new leaf so to speak!!!
    Well...Egeria did, and the indication in 'The Tok'ra' ep seems to be that in the early days, there were those like Egeria that defected to their side...so they have grounds to believe it is possible, even though it hasn't happened in years (or centuries). I believe that they were still cautiously optimistic...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaraBahama View Post
    The symbiote in Teal'c has all of the genetic memory of it's ancestors (not just the queen...but both parents...it has been speculated from comments on the show that Gou'ald can reproduce from queen only or from a combination). Since Teal'c's father was First Prime of Cronus when Teal'c was young, I can only assume that the first symbiote he received was decended from Cronus.

    The problem with this is that the symbiote would have matured and been replaced (usually takes @ 10 years) or have been killed and replaced by one of Apophos' symbiotes. I think that this can qualify as a writing inconsistency.
    It takes 7-8 years for a symbiote to mature (inside a Jaffa, don't know about normal aquatic environment) and in one of the extra scenes of the pilot (Final Cut) Teal'c states this is his twelfth symbiote. It's unclear when Teal'c and his mother went over to Apophis' side but I also assume he'd already gotten his prim'ta (from Cronus) at the time.

    A lot is still unclear and never explained by the show about Queens and how Goa'uld reproduce. I too believe Queens can either fertilize their own eggs or use the sperm of a male (host). In reality the whole genetic memory thing is highly unlikely, but going with canon facts the fact is that two Goa'uld having an offspring can result in having a harsesis, who would have all the knowledge of the Goa'uld. So clearly there is such a thing as genetic memory from ancestors. Another thing we don't know is how one would get a Queen; it's possible that the System Lords keep and control the Queens somewhere and in effect control the Goa'uld population and decide who gets more prim'ta and who doesn't by distributing prim'ta (randomly) gathered from the Queens. After Egeria and Hathor it makes sense for the other Goa'uld to be wary of Queens and how much influence they have on their offspring. Using this theory, it's possible that the symbiote Daniel and Sam captured on Chulak and gave to Teal'c was related to Cronus or the Queen who was related to Cronus or one of his minions who witnessed what happened to Ronac.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaraBahama View Post
    The symbiote in Teal'c has all of the genetic memory of it's ancestors (not just the queen...but both parents...it has been speculated from comments on the show that Gou'ald can reproduce from queen only or from a combination). Since Teal'c's father was First Prime of Cronus when Teal'c was young, I can only assume that the first symbiote he received was decended from Cronus.

    The problem with this is that the symbiote would have matured and been replaced (usually takes @ 10 years) or have been killed and replaced by one of Apophos' symbiotes. I think that this can qualify as a writing inconsistency.



    Well...Egeria did, and the indication in 'The Tok'ra' ep seems to be that in the early days, there were those like Egeria that defected to their side...so they have grounds to believe it is possible, even though it hasn't happened in years (or centuries). I believe that they were still cautiously optimistic...
    My guess was that Teal'c must have originally witnessed his father's death and it was that memory that Junior dredged up.

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    It is always of interest to learn more of Teal'c's past. Given his age, it is no wonder he has associations and possibly even other wives that make up his history. So, to see such sparkage when the priestess walks down the ramp is not too surprising, though Daniel does have a point about the lack of dating opportunities. Bad boy?

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    Don't like those snakes :@@

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    Sucks for the host, getting trapped inside his own body with a psychotic mass murdering snake.

    The Tokra don't seem to mind letting that happen. Anise says the host knew the risks - seems she does a lot of apologizing after the fact, and making sincere claims about good intentions for really bad consequences. She doesn't tell the humans the Tokra won't be sharing information until after they secure Tanith, she doesn't tell the humans they suspected Tanith was lying until after they call her out on it (though Anise assures the humans she totally didn't suspect it when she told them he wasn't).

    Worst of all, when she delivers the body of Shaunoc to the SGC, she implies to Teal'c that it's their fault for waiting too long before handing the Goauld over ("Shaunoc's death is simply the unfortunate result of waiting too long.")

    Which is a straight-up lie in two ways. First, the Tokra hadn't procured a replacement symbiote yet, so she'd be dead without it.

    But second, and more importantly, the Tokra already suspected that Tanith had murdered Shaunoc, if we're to believe Anise's little apology later on. So Anise already knew Shaunoc's death was suspicious, but chose to tell a grieving man that it's probably his fault and the fault of his friends that his girlfriend's dead. She didn't need to say that, and she definitely didn't need to say it at that moment, so the only explanation is that she wanted to remove any suspicion of blame from the Tokra preemptively by laying the blame at the foot of the SGC first.

    Manipulative little pixie, isn't she.

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    I was a bit confused in this episode, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Teal'c married? When he kissed her I was shocked, I didn't think Teal'c would cheat on his wife, just doesn't seem Teal'cish to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stargate Atlantis Girl View Post
    I was a bit confused in this episode, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Teal'c married? When he kissed her I was shocked, I didn't think Teal'c would cheat on his wife, just doesn't seem Teal'cish to me.
    In Season 2, we found out that Drey'auc had her marriage to Teal'c "removed" since she thought he was most likely dead. Then she married Frotac, much toTeal'c's dismay. Frotac wound up getting himself killed, so Drey'auc was a widow (for real). But she and Teal'c never remarried. At least, nothing was ever said about them getting remarried.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skim172 View Post
    Worst of all, when she delivers the body of Shaunoc to the SGC, she implies to Teal'c that it's their fault for waiting too long before handing the Goauld over ("Shaunoc's death is simply the unfortunate result of waiting too long.")

    Which is a straight-up lie in two ways. First, the Tokra hadn't procured a replacement symbiote yet, so she'd be dead without it.
    The Tok'ra did procure a replacement symbiote for Shaunac, because Tanith killed it when he killed Shaunac. He did it the same way that Cronus killed Teal'c's father, by reaching into the pouch and crushing the symbiote, which in turn caused the death of Shaunac.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hedwig View Post
    In Season 2, we found out that Drey'auc had her marriage to Teal'c "removed" since she thought he was most likely dead. Then she married Frotac, much toTeal'c's dismay. Frotac wound up getting himself killed, so Drey'auc was a widow (for real). But she and Teal'c never remarried. At least, nothing was ever said about them getting remarried.
    Ahhh yes, I remember that now. Thanks!

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    @Hedwig

    Shaunac and Teal'c have history, but perhaps that happened before he was married. Plus, jaffa have a long life span, who knows when those two were love birds. He's technically not married now, unless somewhere off screen his vows were renewed, but I doubt he would be adulterous so it's my believe this happened before he married. And Shaunac is simply an old love that sparked some old feelings.

    ...onwards...

    Anise's wardrobe left much to be desired in this episode. I prefer the brown leathery thing she wore in Upgrades. Though I have to say that the shoulder-pieces were cleverly done with the piece of skin-colored cloth between the beige to have the illusion there's no cloth at all keeping the two pieces together.

    Tanith... he's just pure evil. The way he looks. Anyone could see he's up to no good.

    Jack's comment to Freya's mixe-up of the handshake and the big kiss. I bet, she did it on purpose too.
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    Great episode to learn more about Teal'C and I am loving Freya.

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    No like here - could be foreseen.
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    Most episodes dealing with Teal'c/Chulack are pretty slow, this one isn't an exception.. But it's still a pretty solid episode, Tanith makes a really good villain and the conversation between him and Teal'c at the end made for some uncomfortable viewing (in a good way). It seemed obvious that Teal'c was making Tanith aware that he knows what's going on.. but I guess Tanith would always suspect Teal'c anyway. They should of settled it right there..

    "Bra'tac, you've done something with your hair!" was a nice line by Jack. The Jack/Bra'tac conversations are quite amusing, even when Bra'tac isn't there

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    I think O'Neill is a little pissed that Bra'tac helped somebody unknown to the SGC enter the SGC.
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    That's a good point, Anja.

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    Interesting episode. Tanith is just pure evil...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anja View Post
    I think O'Neill is a little pissed that Bra'tac helped somebody unknown to the SGC enter the SGC.
    Remind me who that unknown person was?

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    Shaun'ac. The priestess who had Tanith
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    I actually more felt sorry for Hebron than Shaun'ac. Here is a guy who volunteered to become a host in the knowledge he was going to get a new addition to the Tok'ra ranks.. and then he spends the next 2 years of his life murdering people and civilisations.

    Peter Wingfield did play Tanith well though.

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