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    Lightbulb Wow, Inconsistencies (All spoilers)

    Well, I just watched the first episode of Season 2, and what I can say it that I found so many inconsistencies that it is becoming hard to describe. It's almost an inconsistencies show now.

    Ok here's the first one I'm thinking about:

    McKay goes placing the ZPM with two soldiers. The soldiers shoot at wraiths, it doesn't work and they get shot. Teyla arrives and shoots at the same wraiths, it works and they can go on safely.

    Uh?
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    Default Re: Wow, Inconsistencies (All spoilers)

    As the wraith have already been shot at they are weakened by the time Teyla gets there
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    Default Re: Wow, Inconsistencies (All spoilers)

    I wouldn't call that an inconsistency. For example if someone ran you over in say a VW beetle but you didn't die instantly and then someone else came along and ran you over with another beetle and you died would that be an inconsistency, no it would mean your injuries were sufficient enough that when hit again you died.

    Thats not a very good analogy but it's what could have happened. Two soldiers shoot at wraith, wraith seem unaffected but in reality they have taken internal injuries that they don't heal in time to make them insignificant when teyla shoots them.

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    Default Re: Wow, Inconsistencies (All spoilers)

    I thought it was 4 wraith. IE 2 wraith go down, and then 2 more take out the Soldiers.
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    Default Re: Wow, Inconsistencies (All spoilers)

    So I shoot you three times and you survive because I didn't hit you in vital organs and you haven't lost enough blood... but my friend comes along and shoots you once in the head... are you any less dead?



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    Default Re: Wow, Inconsistencies (All spoilers)

    Yah. I agree with macktheknife. I thought it was something like that.

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    Default Re: Wow, Inconsistencies (All spoilers)

    Mmmmhh, maybe... so why don't soldiers shoot twice more if one try + Teyla's try work? Why didn't the wraiths rise again after more seconds, and didn't trouble McKay and Teyla during all the time it took them to get the zpm running? Seems pretty lame to me, these wraiths sometimes dying quickly and sometimes recovering quicly...

    But here is another inconsistency:

    Why don't soilders hurry to cut the heads of the wraiths who fall. Why do they wait for them to recover?
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    Default Re: Wow, Inconsistencies (All spoilers)

    I take it this is no longer a WOW thread!!
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    Default Re: Wow, Inconsistencies (All spoilers)

    Quote Originally Posted by Major Fischer
    So I shoot you three times and you survive because I didn't hit you in vital organs and you haven't lost enough blood... but my friend comes along and shoots you once in the head... are you any less dead?
    What vital organs? Wraith tissues are supposed to regenerate anyway. And they're always shot in vital organs (if we assume there are in their chests).
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    Quote Originally Posted by macktheknife
    I thought it was 4 wraith. IE 2 wraith go down, and then 2 more take out the Soldiers.
    So why didn't the two first wraiths stand up again after a few seconds?
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    So far there has been no evidence that cutting off the wraith's head would kill them, this is not Highlander. This is, however a television show and they also can't be too gory.

    Secondly, there is no way for the soldiers to know that they were close to killing the wraiths. After all, Teyla might have hit some part of them herself that killed them instantly. I go back to my first statement. If you recieve three non-leathel wounds, and than one leathel wound, are you no less dead?

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    Default Re: Wow, Inconsistencies (All spoilers)

    How come that McKay and Zelenka alone, with Ancient tools, were able to fiddle a quick and dirty solution that the Ancients themselves had not implemented during years of siege?
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    Default Re: Wow, Inconsistencies (All spoilers)

    Quote Originally Posted by Major Fischer
    So far there has been no evidence that cutting off the wraith's head would kill them, this is not Highlander.
    I would. Seems to me useful even if not conclusive. Plus a good dose of water hozing

    Quote Originally Posted by Major Fischer
    This is, however a television show and they also can't be too gory.
    SGA seems to me gory and sinister enough already. Heroes constantly in a hopeless context and constantly causing trouble, doesn't look like a children show to me
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    Default Re: Wow, Inconsistencies (All spoilers)

    I don't see how there's an inconsistency. The soldiers take out the two Wraith ahead of them. Those Wraith are dead (or at the very least unconsicous) on the floor in front of them. They start walking forward when they're shot by two more Wraith that are behind them. Those Wraith very slowly take aim at Rodney, thereby ensuring he can do the ejecting the clip thing with the gun (this is a t.v. show afterall), then the Wraith are killed by Teyla, who pulled the old switcheroo and came up behind them. No inconsistencies.
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    Default Re: Wow, Inconsistencies (All spoilers)

    Perhaps because I've been watching Law and Order DVDs and Paul Verheoven moves, but Atlantis is not a gory show. It is a dark(er) show than SG1, but it's not gory. When there are pools of blood and regular dismembered bodies than I'll call it gory. Even the suicide in The Defiant One and Sumner's death in Rising involved very little blood or screen time. Cutting off the heads of the bad guys would be a departure from the style.



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    Default Re: Wow, Inconsistencies (All spoilers)

    No inconsistency at all. It was simply 4 Wraith grunts, The Marines took out the first 2. When all looked clear McKay got up & came over to them, then suddenly another 2 Wraith grunts appear behind them & take out the soldiers from the back. They are pointing the weapons at McKay when Teyla appears behind them & takes them out.

    The only inconsistency here is why they didn't take care of McKay. They should have taken him out when they took the 2 soldiers out. Never mind standing doing nothing & letting him raise a weapon up towards them & let him rant for a few secs before the clip ejected. That spoiled that part for me. To make it more realistic all they had to do was have them shoot at McKay & pin him down behind some supplies. This having him trapped, he realises that time is running out & jumps out & fires at them (He did fire in 'The Defiant One') the clip ejects & the grunt holsters his weapon & starts clenching his hand, Letting McKay know that it's about to feed upon him. (This way it allows the audience to know exactly why they haven't taken him out like the other soldiers.) Teyla comes to the rescue.....Situation resolved.

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    I have to agree with Major Fischer, on all of her points. While I haven't gotten to see any of this just yet and only half of the first season, from what I have seen it would be a departure from the flair of the show. While darker in theme, its not openly gory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Furling God
    How come that McKay and Zelenka alone, with Ancient tools, were able to fiddle a quick and dirty solution that the Ancients themselves had not implemented during years of siege?
    The ancients did not have teyla to communicate with the wraith and could not be sure if the wraith would stop firing - when the cloak is on the shields are off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Major Fischer
    It is a dark(er) show than SG1, but it's not gory. When there are pools of blood and regular dismembered bodies than I'll call it gory.
    Yes excuse me the proper word is not Gory, it's Dark. You were right on that point.
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    The Wraith Grunts can detect who is a threat. the last two marines were taken out by the last 2 wraith grunts. The only reason why the Grunts want mckay is to feed on him since mckay is not a threat.

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