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    Question The Rail Gun Questions

    Who made them? On one hand they seem really advanced like an energy weapon, and I just might remember someone saying the Asgard gave them to us for the Prommie but yet when col. Everett was talking about them it seemed like they were just regular old projectile guns that just went faster. He was talking about them so fast that I didn't even get what they were(I might not be up on the military ammunition lingo, but I do know what mach is and what rounds are). So what makes a rail gun a rail gun? Are they like half energy weapon/ half projectile? Did you see those fancy plastic or glass discs (I really don't know what their called, they kind of looked Asgard-ish) they put in the guns when they were setting them up? What were they? I know somebody knows. Right?!
    Oh! and how do they work?!

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    Simple, we made them. Even today in real life we have rail guns. The rail gun is not an energy weapon, they give that illusion, but they are not. The reason they look like they fire energy is because they launch the projectiles at Mach five, they are moving incredibly fast, and in an atmosphere, they would superheat the gas around them, converting it to plasma, which would help with the illusion. As well, they move incredibly fast, so they could be moving fast enough to blur the image to apear stretched, so the plasma, making it apear as energy, and the fast speeds bluring the image, and stretching it would create the illusion of an energy burst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Owen Macri
    Simple, we made them. Even today in real life we have rail guns. The rail gun is not an energy weapon, they give that illusion, but they are not. The reason they look like they fire energy is because they launch the projectiles at Mach five, they are moving incredibly fast, and in an atmosphere, they would superheat the gas around them, converting it to plasma, which would help with the illusion. As well, they move incredibly fast, so they could be moving fast enough to blur the image to apear stretched, so the plasma, making it apear as energy, and the fast speeds bluring the image, and stretching it would create the illusion of an energy burst.

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    they have tracers duh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Owen Macri
    Simple, we made them. Even today in real life we have rail guns.
    Owen Macri
    WoW! So are some of them being used in the military today or are they just tied up in a lab somewhere?
    Do you know what those plastic Asgard-ish things were or are you thinking?
    Or you have NO idea what I'm talking about. That's always a possibility
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    Quote Originally Posted by Owen Macri
    Even today in real life we have rail guns.
    i didn't think we do, though i know the U.S. Navy is working on them i didn't think they had a working prototype yet

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    To tell you the truth, I can only assume that the military is using them, but I can't be sure, all I know is, they exist.

    As for the plastic asgardish things, I have no idea what you are talking about, were they inserted into the rail gun? If so, they probably contained the ammunition. If you could give me a scene when they were shown, I can go and quickly run through the episode to look, they were in "The Seige Part II" right? I just happend to watch that episode today, but I will go check it out, if you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by !Dorentus!
    WoW! so are some of them being used in the military today or are they just tied up in a lab somewhere?
    Do you know what those plastic Asgard-ish things were or are you thinking?
    Or you have NO idea what I'm talking about. That's always a possibility
    I think he is talking about the magazines, they are just ammo magazines and we made them duh

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    Default Re: The Rail Gun Questions

    the military isn't using them yet. It's sweet technology, but the only place you could employ one would be on a ship because of the power requirements and what would the targets be then (figuring that missiles would take out enemy fighters/bombers). The Navy has employed a rocket-assisted cannon on their new destroyers that has a 60+ mile range.

    a rail gun would be good for a sniper (as seen in Eraser), or for some sort of another infantry weapon....but the power required to generate the magnetic fields is simply too much to carry on the field in batteries or to make with a chemical reaction or portable generator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Owen Macri
    As for the plastic asgardish things, I have no idea what you are talking about, were they inserted into the rail gun? If so, they probably contained the ammunition. If you could give me a scene when they were shown, I can go and quickly run through the episode to look, they were in "The Seige Part II" right? I just happend to watch that episode today, but I will go check it out, if you want.

    Owen Macri
    Again thx for the help, I'm a curious guy. Well, yes they were in Part II, and I'm pretty sure they weren't ammo; they only stuck them in once b4 the battle ever started they didn't feed them in like a 50 cal. machine gun or whatever but the seen was I think just after Everett was showing Ford the specs of the city and then it goes into all these clips of them preparing for battle and that's where it is. It could be just before the first fight at night w/ the wraith.
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    Ok, I will check it out, I can't right now, because it is almost 2:00 in the morning here, but I will try to check it tommorow... or today.

    I believe I know the device you are typing of, but I am not sure, so I'll check it out.

    No problem, I am happy to help, any time, just ask!

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    To be precise, a rail gun is a gun that uses a very different type of propulsion. Where a normal gun or rocket uses a chemical charge behind the projectile, a rail gun simply takes a magnetic projectile, and uses alternating charges along the barrel to launch and spin it. The main difference is that there is no friction, since the projectile doesn't even touch the barrel.

    The main researcher of this technology I have heard of is the US Navy, trying to create a new type of ship-based artillery. NASA has also been rumored to be working on a large-scale rail gun sytem as a new launcher for orbiters.
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    Jarnin's Law of StarGate:

    1. As a StarGate discussion grows longer, the probability of someone mentioning the Furlings approaches one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Col. Newman
    I think he is talking about the magazines, they are just ammo magazines and we made them duh
    Could you describe what these magazines would look like so I can rest assured that that is what I saw? PLZ, THX
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    Quote Originally Posted by !Dorentus!
    Could you describe what these magazines would look like so I can rest assured that that is what I saw? PLZ, THX
    FYI: The round goes in the clip. The clip goes in the magazine. The magazine feeds the weapon.



    That is a clip of railgun ammo from The Seige II. Not the best picture, but it's the best I could conjure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Col. Newman
    they have tracers duh
    no they dont...the slug just moves so fast it generates a purple color...

    anyway these days electromagnetic railguns are in development. they fire a slug like mach 6 or 7 i think that can destroy a target without explosive aid.

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    Sorry, I can't see the picture, could you post a link?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Owen Macri
    Sorry, I can't see the picture, could you post a link?

    Owen Macri
    I think the picture is on his computer ROFL

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    WoW! so are some of them being used in the military today or are they just tied up in a lab somewhere?
    Do you know what those plastic Asgard-ish things were or are you thinking?
    Or you have NO idea what I'm talking about. That's always a possibility

    They're not in use but the physical principles behind their operation are incredibly simple (I studied them in the first year of high school physics). You have a pair of conductive metal rails between which sits a conductive projectile. The Lorentz force felt is responsible for accelerating the projectile out of the barrel. The electricity supplied need be of extremely high current.

    a rail gun simply takes a magnetic projectile, and uses alternating charges along the barrel to launch and spin it.
    That's incorrect. THe projectile does not spin and it specifically must contact the barrel. You're referring to a coil gun, see above.

    no they dont...the slug just moves so fast it generates a purple color...
    Explain to me why fast motion would create a purple colour.

    FYI: if you can see them moving they're going no where near fast enough to glow.
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    here's a thought; they should put rail guns on 302's and let em tear up darts and w/e else anyone has t throw against us. this is one of the best ways to maximize the 302's potency, along with shield generators... that would be one mean fighter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Sokar
    Explain to me why fast motion would create a purple colour.
    It doesn't necesarily have to be purple, I thought it looked blue, but whatever. Anyways, the immense speeds of the projectiles within an oxygen rich atmosphere would convert the surrounding gas to plasma.

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