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    In the Unanswered questions section of the analysis for this episode, it asks: "Why did the SGC never attempt to use quantum mirror after Daniel returned from the alternate reality? " Listen my subjects for I hold the answer.

    In the episode which the quantum mirror was discovered ("There But For The Grace Of God"), Danial found the controlling device next to the mirror. When he took it with him, he left it in the SGC in his rush to get to the gate because of the Goa'uld attack. He was able to return beause, as Kawolski explains in "Point of View", the mirror will keep two alternate realities connected until the device severs the connection, which Danial never did on his first trip.

    Obviously, we can't even begin to try to make our own controlling device for the quantum mirror, so that may be why it was kept in Area 51.

    Also in the Unanswered Questions section, it asks about the device Jack made. He made it using parts he found around the base and it was declared dead after O'Neill used it to go to the Asgard's homeworld. With two Carters open to build a copy of it, they could easily figure it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lordvader
    Here's something that troubles me. In "The Fifth Race", O'Neil built a power source to gate to the Asgards galaxy. In this episode, Carter and Carter were able to get it working again. Now that inter-galactic gate travel is going to be occuring more and more, why hasn't this tech been considered?
    Yeah I was wondering that too. Spoilers for later seasons:
    Spoiler:
    After all this thing is basicly a homemade Z.P.M. right? So why couldn't they build more so they could gate back and forth from Atlantis or make the weapons in the Ancient outpost in Anactica active again? Or make the shields and weapons on Atlantis active again. Although granted if they did they would miss out on several cool stories.

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    Wow, this is cool ! I chose this ep as my first FULL episode to analyse from my "Directing Notes for the Insane". I actually started the thread on other web sites summer '04 and just now on Gate World and then I saw YOUR post!
    VERY Interesting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dead Jawa
    Yeah I was wondering that too. Spoilers for later seasons:
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    After all this thing is basicly a homemade Z.P.M. right? So why couldn't they build more so they could gate back and forth from Atlantis or make the weapons in the Ancient outpost in Anactica active again? Or make the shields and weapons on Atlantis active again. Although granted if they did they would miss out on several cool stories.
    I'm pretty sure it's not a homemade ZPM, it rather just uses all the energy from a staff-weapon in a flash, rather than a shot at the time.

    What energy was used in seconds to open the stargate to Ida, might have been enough to power the staff-weapon for eons...

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    Look I;ve said in muerouis threads: I've said in the 5th race thread:

    THAT DEVICE IS NOT A ZPM

    Clear? It a naquadah generator supped up to use all it's energy in to short powerful bursts.

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    Eeeeasy there, Mr. Wraith. Calm down big fella.
    Yes, I really do look like (a younger) Daniel. Don't believe me? Look for yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel's_twin
    Eeeeasy there, Mr. Wraith. Calm down big fella.
    I'm calm. I just get a little annoyed when people make silly assumptions that BLATANTLY CONTRADICT what we see on screen.

    Seriously folks do you think STAFF WEAPONS are powered by ZERO POINT MODULES?!?!?!?
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    This ranks as one of my favourite episodes. The sheer poignancy of AlternateSam's relationship with AlternateJack - and how it affects her when she finds herself in a world where RealJack is both alive and well, the Goa'uld aren't taking over, but he's not her Jack. (*sniffles*)

    Agree about the syrup, though. It's not as good as the one in 'There but for the Grace of God'!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazedwraith
    I'm calm. I just get a little annoyed when people make silly assumptions that BLATANTLY CONTRADICT what we see on screen.

    Seriously folks do you think STAFF WEAPONS are powered by ZERO POINT MODULES?!?!?!?

    I think they do. Just kidding, trying to see if i can't get you to type a post in frustration again.

    Anyways loved this ep. Got to see Kwalsky again and i love every ep with him. Also loved Teal'c killing him self and SG-1 gets to bring about the defeat of Apophis again. Do you think though that the Asgard just killed him? Doesn't seem like their style.

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    Also loved Teal'c killing him self and SG-1 gets to bring about the defeat of Apophis again. Do you think though that the Asgard just killed him? Doesn't seem like their style.
    Nah. They probably bunged him back onto the Mothership while it was retreating ('Run away! Run away!'). That seems a bit more Asgard-ish. Particularly as they were nice enough to resurrect AlternateHammond like that.

    As Jack said 'You gotta love those guys!'

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    Hey, i watching PoV on Sci-Fi monday, and they Quantum mirror makes a very simlar sound to the Atlantis gate's dialing sound in one of the scenes. More evidance that the mirror was a product of Ancient tech?

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    This episode gave me the willis. it actually kind of scare me. oh my god. it's a great episode but to see how General Hammond was being torture and seen the sgc so destroy and know that all the humans are being enslave by the ghoa'uld it just i can't even imagine what that must feel like. it makes me think of this reallity and i would never want something like this to happend to us. i'm probably going crazy since i'm talking like this realities are real.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazedwraith
    I'm calm. I just get a little annoyed when people make silly assumptions that BLATANTLY CONTRADICT what we see on screen.

    Seriously folks do you think STAFF WEAPONS are powered by ZERO POINT MODULES?!?!?!?
    Yeah, and besides, those things were just as one-time-use as the "homemade gate" from Ascension, so trying to build 'em again just wouldn't be at all helpful for the Atlantis crew.

    "Alright, we got power to the shield! Now... [email protected]#, the thing just lost power!" Also, since it's not a ZPM, there's no way it'd plug into any of the slots that real ZPMs go in.

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    ("There But For The Grace Of God"), and ("Point of View"),

    Who opened the stargate in these two universes. Jackson is not known to SCG, in either is universes.

    It seems in the "Point of View reality," SCG is more reliant of the quantum mirror than the stargate. The Hammond in THIS universe seemed to think the quantum mirror is a good thing. The quantum mirror saved their world.

    In a reality without Neill and Teal'c, I wonder what happens now?
    Who will be THEIR SG-1?

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    Quote Originally Posted by line17
    Who will be THEIR SG-1?
    Kawalsky gets my vote. He deserves the opportunity to serve his country properly and not get a junior symbiote through the ear.

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    What Sam was hotter?
    Did the alt. Sam call the SGC, SGA (Stargate Atlantis)

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    I think SGA in her reality would have been 'Stargate Area'(or something. I'm not sure how well developed Atlantis was in the writers minds circa S3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major Fischer
    Better, but still not very good. This one rates as the worst one she's had though.
    Really not that good....lol the one in New Order made me laugh!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thorshammer
    What Sam was hotter?
    Did the alt. Sam call the SGC, SGA (Stargate Atlantis)
    Yeah,I thought that too?Were the hinting to Atlantis

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    No, they just had a slightly different name, instead of StarGate Command, it was probably like StarGate Administration.

    I really liked this episode. I usually always enjoy alternate reality stories.

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