The Ori, Worse than the Goa'uld

[LORD MONK]

This kicks but. I want to know what you all think? I am not much of a Bbrowder fan (as you all have read in my posts) But this sounds good. What a way to bring someone NEW in!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Amun]

Yeah it sounds great. It's a great idea having SG-1 dispanded at the beginning of the new season (explains where Carter as gone.) I really can't wait see how the new team dynamic works. And it seems that when Carter comes back to the SGC that Ben Browder will be in charge.

As for not being a fan of Mr Browder I really haven't seen him in anything other then The Charlie Angels Story which was a tv movie.

Time will tell if the Orii are worse then the Gou'uld because the writers have said this before and it's never happend. But ya never know.

[Falcon Zero]

Well, they'll be a force to be reckoned with if the Priors are as bad as they sound, what with forcing others to choose between death and 'worshipping' the Orii. Should be interesting to see how destructive they can be, especially as they don't sound like they're made up of huge armies and firepower much the Goa'uld's Jaffa.

Oh, and Browder's a champ. Great personality on Farscape, so I've no doubt he'll fit right in with SG-1.

[GateMan2000]

I wonder how the Jaffa are going to react to the Orii. They just got rid of the Goa'uld's being false gods. Now they have another race saying worship me or else. I think there is a great possibility that a lot of Jaffa are going to die because they would refuse to believe in anything forced upon them.

[Iguana775]

I wonder how the Jaffa are going to react to the Orii. They just got rid of the Goa'uld's being false gods. Now they have another race saying worship me or else. I think there is a great possibility that a lot of Jaffa are going to die because they would refuse to believe in anything forced upon them.

all the more reason to help the Tar'ri (sp?) fight them.

[Tok'Ra Hostess]

Warning, rant ahead....

I just hope that the PTB have given more thought to developing the Orii than they did the Goa'uld/Tok'Ra. The histories of - and between - those two groups remain largely unexploited simply because the writers didn't sit down and plot out their full stories. Sure, the Orii may be big, bad, HUGE bad at first, but if they haven't been completely sketched out, and I mean every detail, whether it makes it to the screen or not, then they will inevitably become as namby-pamby as the Goa'uld.

Writers, forget about whether or not you have a next season; write the new baddies as though you have five seasons to develop them in and you'll create sustainable characters.

[Oreo]

Yeah I agree. Everytime some bad guy comes they are like "ITS WORSE THAN THE LAST!!!!" It gets old because the gouald are a joke, and the Waith are supposed to be worse, but they also feellike a joke because the writers don't make us care.

I mean honestly are the writers gonig to say "They aren't that bad... bad... but maybe the Waith and Gauld beat them? No, so why is everyone acting like this is so shocking news.

[uknesvuinng]

I'm just annoyed that he used the phrase "bad Ancients". I much prefer the idea of a seperate race that ascended. I don't mind them being on par with the Ancients, but please don't make them Ancients-gone-bad.

[SGRanger06]

I though that was just used to draw a comparasion. Are they in fact ancients gone bad or are did he just say that to help us undestand?

[uknesvuinng]

I though that was just used to draw a comparasion. Are they in fact ancients gone bad or are did he just say that to help us undestand?

After a good re-read, I realize he's interchanging Ancients and ascended. He does refer to Anubis as half-ancient, even though it's well established that Anubis is a Goa'uld in a half-ascended state. What confused me was the last sentence of that paragraph when he refers to them as a load of bad ancients. Guess that's what I get for reading before I'm fully awake.

[MarshAngel]

I just read the spoilers and it sounds really great. But I am curious about one thing how is this "our fault"? What did we do?
We do have a record of making galactic sized messes (seewaking up the Wraith from their 10,000 year nap) I just don't rememeber what we did to piss off the Orii. Can someone clarify that for me?


I like the idea of the Orii. I think I can see where they're coming from with this one. Unlike other religious beliefs we've come across, the Orii's/Priors faith have a heavy basis in fact, which makes them even more powerful.
I also love the idea of SG1 having been disbanded. It makes the reorganization of the team much more palatable and plausible.

Can't wait to see it all.

[GeneralJackO'Neill]

I'm just annoyed that he used the phrase "bad Ancients". I much prefer the idea of a seperate race that ascended. I don't mind them being on par with the Ancients, but please don't make them Ancients-gone-bad.

Why not? The Ancients are a bunch of arrogant-superior-advanced aliens; the ascended Ancients. It's about time some ascended beings ignore the rules of 'enlightenment'. Thank god.

[SGRanger06]

I just read the spoilers and it sounds really great. But I am curious about one thing how is this "our fault"? What did we do?

"Daniel emphasizes to the Doci that he is an explorer and that he and his people wish to learn more about them and their culture. But the Doci tells him that it is the will of the Ori that they spread their religious message of the path to enlightenment ("Origin"). All who reject the path must be destroyed, by the will of the Ori."

Daniel makes contact with the Ori and their servants, therefore alerting them to the presence of Earth. Now their coming to "convert" Earth. That's how its "our fault".

[LORD MONK]

I just can't wait to see it!!!! The writers and directors have a way of making me happy. This hole twist on SC-1 not being active anymore and BB bringing them back together I tnink is going to work out better then if I wrote it. (well almost)

The hole Mythology surrounding King Aurther and the roung table is going to be cool to. I read a post awhile back that was pretty interesting. It stated that the Ancients wanted to go back to Atlantis and fight the Wraith but got caught up in ascention. Thus dividing the two.


You all have brought grate insight and thought to this thread and I thank you!!!

[MarshAngel]

"Daniel emphasizes to the Doci that he is an explorer and that he and his people wish to learn more about them and their culture. But the Doci tells him that it is the will of the Ori that they spread their religious message of the path to enlightenment ("Origin"). All who reject the path must be destroyed, by the will of the Ori."

Daniel makes contact with the Ori and their servants, therefore alerting them to the presence of Earth. Now their coming to "convert" Earth. That's how its "our fault".

Way to go Daniel! That was a real Sheppard moment he had there.