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    yeah i thought their way of making the people dissapear was cool i think it just put them into a alternate reality but we never got the answer for that i think?

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    I was just watching it again this morning, and a thought occured to me...

    What if the 'Spirits' are the Furlings? Like the Asgard, Ancients, and Nox, they are extremely powerful (enough to drive them from their world). They seem to live in relative communion with nature like the Nox. They look like they could also be techno savvy like the Asgard too. Also like the Ancients and the Nox they got crazy powers. They seem to be a very old race. So... why not? I'd say they're at least in the running of potential candidates. My only other one is the 'giant aliens' seen by Daniel's grandfather, Nick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seastallion
    I was just watching it again this morning, and a thought occured to me...

    What if the 'Spirits' are the Furlings? Like the Asgard, Ancients, and Nox, they are extremely powerful (enough to drive them from their world). They seem to live in relative communion with nature like the Nox. They look like they could also be techno savvy like the Asgard too. Also like the Ancients and the Nox they got crazy powers. They seem to be a very old race. So... why not? I'd say they're at least in the running of potential candidates. My only other one is the 'giant aliens' seen by Daniel's grandfather, Nick.
    Sorry to disappoint you, but this is not a new theory. Any race basically that seems a mystery is usually branded as "possible Furlings." The fact is, we're probably never going to find out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel's_twin
    Sorry to disappoint you, but this is not a new theory. Any race basically that seems a mystery is usually branded as "possible Furlings." The fact is, we're probably never going to find out.
    Your right, that they may not be at all. However my only point was that they are advanced and evolved enough as a species that they could certainly be considered on par with the races of the Ancient Alliance. They made it clear in the episode that they had abandoned space travel, but it seems that at one time they had it. They just no longer have any interest in it for some reason.
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    I liked Tonane, but he did bug me a bit after a while; he just seemed too cheerful and laid back.

    Sam's line "What big eyes you have?" to the wolf was great.

    I always wonder about the use of animals in tv/film. I'm not entirely comfortable with the idea that they tied the dog's tail down to make it look more wolf-like. Dogs are pack animals though and most love pleasing people. I have two dogs with fantastic natures; as docile and gentle as anything but protective over my family too (no, they've never bitten - their bark has proved sufficient deterrent thus far). They really seem to enjoy pleasing us and actually get quite upset if they don't understand what we're asking them to do, like posing for a photo, for example.

    This was an ok episode, not one of my favourites so far. Is it just me, or did the aliens seem to be persuaded a little too easily at the end?
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    You could tell from the dog's body language that he was not at all stressed by the whole movie making ordeal. His trainer would've been just a few feet out of the shot at all times, so he'd be happy.

    The alien gills looked great and was a nice touch. Creepy, but well done. I'd like to know more about the aliens. They're obviously very advanced, perhaps more than any other we've encountered.
    They can make things disappear at will (transported to some other stasis realm?) and shapeshift into anything, any size too, and gain the abilities of what they shapeshift into. eg change into a bird and fly away, change into a dog and run fast etc. It may have all been done with holograms and transporter beams, but if not, they are seriously well evolved, perhaps even ascended to some degree?
    What motivates them to a contented life of watching over their Indian tribe? For such a peaceful and advanced race, they seem quick to anger (we deserved a kick in the backside, but being "disappeared" seemed harsh).

    One of those encounters that you really wish went better. They could've been powerful friends.

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    Something that brought the spirits down to size was when Teal'c zatted Zaels. I cheered, I laughed. It showed that they are mortal after all. It really knocked him about too, more than most others. They can dish it out, but they can't take it.

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    In the past I've wondered why they picked the Salish as the Native American tribe living on the planet. (I don't know anything about Native Americans.) Well, last week I was at the British Museum. In the Americas gallery they have two carved red cedar doorposts that came from a Coast Salish house. The Salish lived in British Columbia and the item description mentioned Vancouver Island. So now I know.
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    I liked a few elements of this episode, after rewatching the discs...

    1) the spirits reminded me of the nox. particularly with the 'making people disappear' thing but also in the way they all gathered in order to heal the zatted spirit guy in the infirmary

    2) doctor whatever his name was, before he was zatted to reveal Zales ... his head movements were very animalistic to me and i thoguht that was interesting

    i'm a little peeved we never get to talk to them in terms of some sort of 'hey we don't like the goauld either' thing.

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    i'm a little peeved we never get to talk to them in terms of some sort of 'hey we don't like the goauld either' thing.
    Yea I was wondering about that too. The aliens obviously didn't like the Goauld - they would have made powerful allies. And too bad they're burying their stargate. In some ways, the alien planet would make a perfect trap: lure the Goauld to travel to the planet, the aliens zap them into nothingness, and voila, no more problem!

    The aliens also reminded me of the Nox. If not for their aggressive nature, I'd say they're close to ascension.

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    I wonder what exactly happens to them when they get 'zapped..

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    I wondered that myself. The Wikipedia article for this episode states that zap victims go to "a place of nothingness".

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    I loved Sam's smile when she realized she was taking her first command.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tjackson80 View Post
    I liked a few elements of this episode, after rewatching the discs...

    1) the spirits reminded me of the nox. particularly with the 'making people disappear' thing but also in the way they all gathered in order to heal the zatted spirit guy in the infirmary

    2) doctor whatever his name was, before he was zatted to reveal Zales ... his head movements were very animalistic to me and i thoguht that was
    interesting

    i'm a little peeved we never get to talk to them in terms of some sort of 'hey we don't like the goauld either' thing.
    Well they probably have gained their power in a way very similar to that of the Nox. Look at the Asgard and the Goa'uld, they are very different kinds of species. However, they were developing on a very similar path. Completely different cultures but for example they both use spaceships with similar types of weapons systems.

    Quote Originally Posted by RobertF
    Yea I was wondering about that too. The aliens obviously didn't like the Goauld - they would have made powerful allies. And too bad they're burying their stargate. In some ways, the alien planet would make a perfect trap: lure the Goauld to travel to the planet, the aliens zap them into nothingness, and voila, no more problem!

    The aliens also reminded me of the Nox. If not for their aggressive nature, I'd say they're close to ascension.
    Much like the Nox these people aren't the kind of people who go to war. They saved the Salish from the Goa'uld, but that doesn't mean they are going to go around the galaxy hunting more Goa'uld's. To tell you the truth I don't think ascension is the goal of every species. The Nox obviously don't believe it is worth it or they would have already ascended.

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    the best and only part i liked was when the aliens showed their true forms.

    as a whole, the native american theme did not really excite me.

    jack is like a bullseye target for sharp metals. poor guy.

    i am happy to see that conners have been promoted and is now leading his own sg team.

    question: is sg1 the only team with a civilian culture expert like daniel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by L E E View Post
    the best and only part i liked was when the aliens showed their true forms.

    as a whole, the native american theme did not really excite me.

    jack is like a bullseye target for sharp metals. poor guy.

    i am happy to see that conners have been promoted and is now leading his own sg team.

    question: is sg1 the only team with a civilian culture expert like daniel?
    In these early episodes it is clear that Daniel is one of the only civilians who goes of world. However, in later episodes I am not so sure, we see many other civilian scientists.

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    An interesting mission for Sam to have her first command position on.

    Before the arrow came through the gate and hit Jack, they received SG-11's iris code, but the Stargate had not yet opened. I guess I'm not the only one to notice that as it was mentioned in the trivia on TV.com, I guess a problem with editing there.

    I liked the character of Tonane a very happy go lucky guy, funny how he called everyone by their first name even General Hammond.

    The sprits looked cool the way their gills was breathing was pretty good.

    The native/north American thing I thought was cool, something very different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L E E View Post
    the best and only part i liked was when the aliens showed their true forms.

    as a whole, the native american theme did not really excite me.

    jack is like a bullseye target for sharp metals. poor guy.

    i am happy to see that conners have been promoted and is now leading his own sg team.

    question: is sg1 the only team with a civilian culture expert like daniel?
    He seems to take it all in stride.
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    Good ep, But this Ep also gets boring after you watch it a few times.
    Tonane is waay laid back which is cool, Sam "Can we have our weapons back?", Tonane : "Sure", Lol thats a 1 in a million.
    Gotta love those Native Americans

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    The aliens were part fish or something? (they had... gills? on their faces?) I don't get it.

    I like that Sam had her first command! Go Sam!

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