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    Quote Originally Posted by Anubis
    I didn't know they used dogs. That dog must have felt so abused, but that's what these *evil* producers do to these poor little creatures.
    Nah, I'm sure the dog was fine. All he had to do was wonder around and look at everyone

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    It seems that most people liked this eps.


    For me it was just too strange, and wierd. The concept was good, but I think more work could have been done on the Indian part.

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    The "Indian" episode, it seems like every show has to do at least one, (see TOS "Paradise Syndrome" or TNG "Journey's End") I guess they want to appease the twinkie demographic

    Spirits is better than most "Indian" episodes. They give us a real tribe, with an actual defined culture as opposed to most Hollywood Indians. Tonane was cool and Rodney Grant is a great actor. I think it would have been more interesting if it was the Salish themselves were technologically advanced and not the aliens. They would have made an interesting recurring ally.

    I agree that the government's decision to screw the natives is a little heavy handed, it's not that surprising since it's an ongoing thing.

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    I found these guys a bit weird with their face?Did anybody think they were like the Nox a bit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Anubis
    I found these guys a bit weird with their face?Did anybody think they were like the Nox a bit?
    In what way? These aliens were violent and prepared to attack at short notice, something the Nox would never do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeaBee
    In what way? These aliens were violent and prepared to attack at short notice, something the Nox would never do.
    When Tonane kept referring to the superiority of the ways of the spirits over the ways of the Tau'ri, I was reminded a bit of the Nox who disapproved of "our ways".

    Quote Originally Posted by Lugal
    I agree that the government's decision to screw the natives is a little heavy handed, it's not that surprising since it's an ongoing thing.
    I don't know. They've got some pretty sweet casinos out where I live.

    The only bit of moralizing that really made me cringe was O'Neill's little speech to Hammond when the General suggested deceiving the Indians. SG-1 just seemed a little too quick to jump on good ol' George when they've overtly participated in some morally ambiguous activities during past episodes. Other than that, I thought the whole Native American theme was well realized and a nice departure from the totally evil and totally good gods represented by the Gou'ald and Asgard, respectively. The Spirits were neither. Just fiercely loyal to Tonane's people.

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    I generally found this episode very heavy handed, and somewhat reminded me of the most preachy of the Star Trek episodes dealing with Native Americans on other planets.

    Just made me want to change the channel.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Dick
    When Tonane kept referring to the superiority of the ways of the spirits over the ways of the Tau'ri, I was reminded a bit of the Nox who disapproved of "our ways".
    Ah, what once was clouded is now clear. Thank you for clearing that up for me.
    To me, the spirits reminded me more of the alien in Fire and Water, far more forceful than the Nox.
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    This one started a little wierd, but ended pretty well. The first half, while we're on the planet, the first time I watched it I got the same wierd feeling I got in the pit of my stomach every time I watch "Meridian". (it's gone away now, whereas Meridian's feeling hasn't) but after we came back to the SGC, it got better. Hated the nostrils on the spirits though. They were well-done and all, but I just mean I hate 'em because they're gross*shudders*
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    You don't like fish much, do you?

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    Actually no. I like learning about 'em, but I hate eating 'em. Didn't even like them when I was only a few months old in the womb. My mom ate some tuna, I made her sick. Big protest there.
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    [sigh] Poor thing. You have NO idea what you're missing...and incidentally, we're having salmon for dinner tonight.

    Just in case anyone's interested, it's awfully hard to eat tuna salad while watching this ep. Ewww.

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    not my favorite episode but my god where the indians funny, i loved tonane, hes so great, theyre so laid back and casual!

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    Caught this again last night, and I gotta say, this is still one of the eps that I truly don't like. The whole premise just seemed kinda stale. There's so many cool things you could do with Native American culture and this was the best they could come up with? And the whole clapping thing just looked stupid. The only useful thing that it did was introduce the concept of trinium.
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    I like how laid back Tonane was. A funny guy firm in his beliefs… I agree with the earlier poster; it was a nice change from the usual egotistical Goa’uld enemy of the week...
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    I like this ep especially Tonane. He had such a laid back attitude it was great.
    SG-1 "Can we have our Weapons?"
    Tonane "Sure."
    SG-1 "Can we see your spirits?"
    Tonane "Sure."

    The aliens were cool too. At first i was worried that the people they beemed away died. But then i realized this was S2 and that Hammond was still alive and it was S8 now. The aliens were really cool. They would be such a deadly enemy. Worse then the Ree'tou.

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    Did anyone notice something really weird about the very beginning? They said the SG team was overdue and they were talking about going in. Then they had an incoming wormhole, and before it even initialized(chevrons were going in one by one this time) the iris lady said, SG-(i think it was 8?) is coming back. They never closed the iris, and never mentioned recieving a GDO signal. Also, an arrow (later it was said shot by Tonane) shot through the super bullet proof glass but stopped halfway through O-Neill's arm. If it could go through the glass, I'm pretty sure it would go right through the arm too and probably embed itself in the wall. Also, don't you think they would have been a little worried about a team coming back a day late? You would expect the iris to be closed....Just kind of, a ridiculous beginning but I did love the rest of the show, especially the "Can we go now?" "Sure" part.

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    Arrows go through bullet-proof glass, it's not what the glass is designed to stop. However, they will lose energy in doing so, which is why it didn't go deeper into O'Neill's shoulder.

    The iris was open because they suffered from one of the SGC's periodic moments of plot-related intense stupidity.
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    The native showing SG-.75 around bugged me. He seemed too happy, preternaturally so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tibit
    Did anyone notice something really weird about the very beginning? They said the SG team was overdue and they were talking about going in. Then they had an incoming wormhole, and before it even initialized(chevrons were going in one by one this time) the iris lady said, SG-(i think it was 8?) is coming back. They never closed the iris, and never mentioned recieving a GDO signal. Also, an arrow (later it was said shot by Tonane) shot through the super bullet proof glass but stopped halfway through O-Neill's arm. If it could go through the glass, I'm pretty sure it would go right through the arm too and probably embed itself in the wall. Also, don't you think they would have been a little worried about a team coming back a day late? You would expect the iris to be closed....Just kind of, a ridiculous beginning but I did love the rest of the show, especially the "Can we go now?" "Sure" part.
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