Att Lanteans: Lanteans from Att

[Wandering Tamer]

Ok, I have looked and haven't seen anything like this so...

I don't think this should go in Atlantis seasons because it's so general but...

This was an idea brought to me by my brother so here goes. The Wraith refer to the Ancients as Lanteans and not Atlanteans. Also, the symbol for Earth is Att. So... since sounds are gates or not, but what if they are the Att Lanteans. The Lanteans from Att.

Did anyone just follow that?

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What I mean is, what if that's the Ancients actual race name? We know the Ancients are not from the MW initially, so the ones in the MW would be <something> Lanteans.

[sgeureka]

I've been thinking the same thing since I watched Lost City for the first time. But so far there has never been proof for that.

When we were in like Season 6, someone had posted his idea that maybe
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Anubis was the reason why Oma Desala was outcast from the Ancients. Everyone, myself included, thought that would be just too weird. Now look at what happened.

The idea may be weird, but maybe it will turn out to be true in the end.

[Seastallion]

Ok, I have looked and haven't seen anything like this so...

I don't think this should go in Atlantis seasons because it's so general but...

This was an idea brought to me by my brother so here goes. The Wraith refer to the Ancients as Lanteans and not Atlanteans. Also, the symbol for Earth is Att. So... since sounds are gates or not, but what if they are the Att Lanteans. The Lanteans from Att.

Did anyone just follow that?

Spoiler:

What I mean is, what if that's the Ancients actual race name? We know the Ancients are from the MW initially, so the ones in the MW would be <something> Lanteans.

Except there is a slight problem with that theory... The original Earth Stargate had a different symbol than is currently used for Earth. So it wouldn't be 'At'. It would be something else. Ra brought the current Stargate to Earth... he didn't originally know about the one buried in Antartica for millions of years. Also, the Ancients had a word for Earth... Terra. Remember Jack in the 'Lost City'?... He said 'Terra Atlantis' reffering to Antartica.

Not neccesarily the 'south' pole... because in space there is no 'north' or 'south'... just up and down. Without reference, how do you figure out which is which?? It is only a fluke that we draw our maps the way we do... they would be just as valid if we turned the map or globe upside down, and flipped the names of the places over to be read properly. Compass directions only have meaning because we give them a name... but what we consider South, could easily be switched to being North..just on a whim. Then N. America would become S. America, and vice-versa.

...back to topic (sorry about my rant there... ). If your theory were correct...then it would indicate the Ancients are in fact from whatever planet Ra brought the Earth stargate from... which is possible, because we don't actually know where the Ancients were from originally.

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They weren't from Earth. So they could be from anywhere else...maybe even from another galaxy entirely.

The planet Atlantis is currently on, was named after Atlantis arrived. So its name Lantia, is more of an afterthought on the part of the Ancients, than the reason for the name of Atlantis its self. I think the City of Atlantis was named Atlantis, because that is likely what the Ancients called modern day 'Antartica'. I think Atlantis was actually built on Antartica... so they named the city after the continent on which it was built. Just my theory...

[Keffler]

In that case the Ancients coming back from Atlantis would infact be coming back into the outpost rather than in Egypt because they wouldnt know the other stargate was there.

[fraG_fesT]

an interesting theory.. i'd had thoughts along those lines for a little while actually!

[Seastallion]

In that case the Ancients coming back from Atlantis would infact be coming back into the outpost rather than in Egypt because they wouldnt know the other stargate was there.

Uh... nope... I'm afraid not. The Gate in Antartica was encased in Ice, so they couldn't go through that gate. The only option would've been to go through the Stargate in Egypt. The only reason O'Neill and Carter were able to go through that gate, was because it had only 'recently' (being a relative term) been freed from the ice it had been encased in. The Gate in Egypt was the one that was used all the time, so it had priority over the Antartic gate. Yah... I know...what about the Goa'uld?? Well, they were on Earth by then... but I imagine it would've been difficult for the Goa'uld to take the Atlanteans on. One would assume they took enough of their technology with them, to defend themselves and do whatever they needed to do to try and rebuild their civilization. If that is the case...then the Ancients could indeed be alive somewhere, as a civilization. That would be cool...!

[AzMcNeil]

Uh... nope... I'm afraid not. The Gate in Antartica was encased in Ice, so they couldn't go through that gate. The only option would've been to go through the Stargate in Egypt. The only reason O'Neill and Carter were able to go through that gate, was because it had only 'recently' (being a relative term) been freed from the ice it had been encased in. The Gate in Egypt was the one that was used all the time, so it had priority over the Antartic gate. Yah... I know...what about the Goa'uld?? Well, they were on Earth by then... but I imagine it would've been difficult for the Goa'uld to take the Atlanteans on. One would assume they took enough of their technology with them, to defend themselves and do whatever they needed to do to try and rebuild their civilization. If that is the case...then the Ancients could indeed be alive somewhere, as a civilization. That would be cool...!

Antarctica as we know it today is covered in ice, but how do you know if it was 10,000 years ago. Alot of things could have changed environmentally.
There was a detailed map of the Antarctic coast line, that was discovered in the past century. It was reportedly drafted in the 17th or 18th century. Now this may not seem unusual at all, but the fact of the matter is, the map clearly shows a coast line that is now covered by hundreds of meters of ice. It should have taken several thousands of years for that ice to for off the coast but apparently it did it in a little over 200 - 300 years.

What I'm trying to state is that 10,000 years ago, the world was a very different place. And whether it be reality or StarGate, I think the same would have to apply....well unless TPTB screw it up

[Seastallion]

Antarctica as we know it today is covered in ice, but how do you know if it was 10,000 years ago. Alot of things could have changed environmentally.
There was a detailed map of the Antarctic coast line, that was discovered in the past century. It was reportedly drafted in the 17th or 18th century. Now this may not seem unusual at all, but the fact of the matter is, the map clearly shows a coast line that is now covered by hundreds of meters of ice. It should have taken several thousands of years for that ice to for off the coast but apparently it did it in a little over 200 - 300 years.

What I'm trying to state is that 10,000 years ago, the world was a very different place. And whether it be reality or StarGate, I think the same would have to apply....well unless TPTB screw it up

I agree. You are referring to the Piri Reis map. That map was made from other, much older maps...thus it was actually a compilation of maps. (sort of like the Bible is a compilation of literary documents, rather than a 'book' in the traditional sense) It was Professor Charles Hapgood who re-discovered the map, and then sent a copy to the U.S. Air Force for a detailed examination. They agreed, that was indeed a map of the Antartic coast line which (the currently accepted idea) had not yet been discovered. *wink, wink* It is known for a fact, that Antartica was not always completely frozen. There have been petrified trees found (the only ones ever discovered south of the Antartic circle), and underwater sediment buildups along the Antartic coast from flowing rivers spilling sediment into the ocean. However, that was about 10,000 years ago. The Piri Reis map was made from other older maps, some of which were likely copied from even earlier maps. (that was how they made copies back then) So there is no way to know just how old the original map of the Antartic coastline was.

It also shows some of the South American coastline. Also not believed to have been discovered at the time. However, we know that the Egyptians used Tobacco and Cocaine in their mummification process. The problem is... those substances are indigineous to the America's. How did the Egyptians get them, and in such regular quantities?? There is an Ancient city in S. America called Tiahuanaco that was larger than ancient Rome, used a metallurigical process in its construction that wasn't discovered until the 1930's, and has carvings of animals that haven't existed in 10,000 years. There are elephants (there aren't any in S. America), and other pre-historic animals (from around the same time as the Mammoths). The city was also built along celestial alignments.

There is much about our past we know nothing of. Charles Hapgood believed that Antartica was in fact, the lost continent of Atlantis. It is buried in water... (ice) So, who knows? The ice over Antartica is a mile thick in at least one spot. What is buried beneath that ice, is still a great unkown mystery.

[Wandering Tamer]

Uh... nope... I'm afraid not. The Gate in Antartica was encased in Ice, so they couldn't go through that gate. The only option would've been to go through the Stargate in Egypt. The only reason O'Neill and Carter were able to go through that gate, was because it had only 'recently' (being a relative term) been freed from the ice it had been encased in. The Gate in Egypt was the one that was used all the time, so it had priority over the Antartic gate. Yah... I know...what about the Goa'uld?? Well, they were on Earth by then... but I imagine it would've been difficult for the Goa'uld to take the Atlanteans on. One would assume they took enough of their technology with them, to defend themselves and do whatever they needed to do to try and rebuild their civilization. If that is the case...then the Ancients could indeed be alive somewhere, as a civilization. That would be cool...!

Actually, we don't know how long that gate was encased in ice. We know those Ancients returned around 10,000 years ago but that ice could have formed in the last 2 thousand years and we wouldn't know it, because it's never been touched by us. Plus, we don't know which gate was on Earth first or used by the Ancients, we can only speculate because of the one the Go'auld used.

Ok, back to my point, it also helps that the Att symbol is the Pegasus' link to Earth because that symbol is on the Atlantis gate. Wish I had a picture.

[Seastallion]

Actually, we don't know how long that gate was encased in ice. We know those Ancients returned around 10,000 years ago but that ice could have formed in the last 2 thousand years and we wouldn't know it, because it's never been touched by us. Plus, we don't know which gate was on Earth first or used by the Ancients, we can only speculate because of the one the Go'auld used.

Ok, back to my point, it also helps that the Att symbol is the Pegasus' link to Earth because that symbol is on the Atlantis gate. Wish I had a picture.

Actually... It has been stated many times that the Antartic Gate is the oldest stargate to have been examined by the SGC. The Stargate that the Ancients would have travelled through to get back to Earth would've been the one that Ra brought with him to Earth, because it had priority over the Antartic gate by virtue of the fact it was the most recently used. The Antartic stargate was unkown to the Goa'uld, otherwise Ra wouldn't have brought another one to Earth. The Goa'uld first came to Earth over 10,000 years ago (or right at), so the Atlanteans would've come to Earth to find it over-run with Goa'uld. We do, in fact, know which gate was first (the Antartic gate was dated as being millions of years old, older than the Ra stargate used in the SGC)

That is interesting about the Att symbol (Earth P'of'Origin symbol). I'd like to see that. I'll try to see if I can't recognise it on my TV. (I'll pause the show... )