In the Line of Duty (202)

[Skydiver]

or mine are an offshoot of that
http://www.geocities.com/sky_diver119/aumain.htm

Changing Fate, Letting go of the Past

They're along the line of 'what if jols had stayed in sam'

I agree with you about the cpr. Sam's possession was probably just a case of misunderstanding.

I've always interpreted the 'of malkshur' or 'of beloit' to be 'i'm jolinar from the planet of malkshur'

That's one way people used to come up with last names way back when. sometimes it was because of thier trade. Hence Cooper, Porter, Carter.
Other times it's 'this is mark, steve's son.....so his name is mark steveson'

Other times, it's about where you're from

Any theory could work. It's possible that Jolinar was the child of Malkshur as well

[Dead Jawa]

It's never been clarified on the series. When SG-1 first meet the Tok'Ra, their local leader says that she is, "of Belote." My pet theory is that Tok'Ra who distinguish themselves thus are either, 1) not "of Egeria," making Malkshur and Belote Goa'uld queens(or, SLs?) of old(In Crossroads Anise said that a few Goa'uld joined the Tok'Ra movement, though none in recent centuries.) or, 2) they won some major, history making conflict and were awarded an honorific.

That makes since. I had forgot about Anise's comment in "Crossroads". She may well have been a defected Goa'uld. After all she did seem a little more arogant than the other Tok'Ra and it would also explane why she was so well known among the Jaffa. A Goa'uld who fought her own kind for a reason other than personal gain would be the stuff of legend.

Remember, Teal'c had only heard rumors of her and the Tok'Ra. Perhaps the story of Jolinar's defeat was handed down to the Jaffa from generation to generation. Jolinar might have engaged Apophis in battle centuries or even millenia ago, when there would have been many more Tok'Ra with the resources to do open battle with the Goa'uld. Perhaps it was this very defeat that forced the Tok'Ra to use covert tactics.

That's also possible. It does seem rather stupid to believe that a group like the Tok'Ra wouldn't have changed there tactics in the countless centuries that they've been fighting the Goa'uld.

Thanks

[Tauri]

Fabtabulous.
Loved it!
Loved AT's performance. One of her best ever. 10/10

[Tok'Ra Hostess]

A Goa'uld who fought her own kind for a reason other than personal gain would be the stuff of legend.

<snip>....
It does seem rather stupid to believe that a group like the Tok'Ra wouldn't have changed there tactics in the countless centuries that they've been fighting the Goa'uld.

To borrow from Daniel in Line of Duty: I think we have to assume the (Tok'Ra) are more complex as a society than we're giving them credit for.

[ShimmeringStar]

I liked the show, especially AT's acting in it and the overall story arc. I also liked the Teal’c/Jack scene where Jack was struggling with himself on how he was going to approach his conversation with Sam/Jolinar; he was having issues about seeing Sam as a host and not as his friend.

[SmartFox]

I really like this ep: great acting by everyone especially AT, also this is the beginning of what i think as a great story ark. I love all the eps with the Tok'ra in them, its an interaction between 2 races that is one of the most realistic in the whole series. "You scratch my back we scrath your back". Thats exactly how the world acts now and would if we met some aliens from another planet.

[astrogeologist]

I remember from way back that there was a behind the scenes thing that Showtime did for Stargate between seasons 1 and 2. In it, Amanda said (concerning what was coming up for Sam in season two) something like, 'And something happens to Sam that's really big. *she stares into the camera* 'Reeeally big'. That last part, with her saying 'really big' was so cute, because of the look on Amanda's face and the way she said that phrase. I can't remember exactly how she stated the first sentence, but the 'really big' thing I remember well. I wish I could find that segment (somewhere on the net) to keep. Sally

In The Line of Duty Sam getting Goa'ulded! Wow! What a scene when her eyes glowed at the beginning! And the ramifications for her character development after that... just wonderful.

Cassie senses the naquadah in Jolinar.

Jolinar tries to escape and Jack injects her with a sedative that doesn't even seem to slow her down.
Janet says that it was enough to knock down 'an elephant'.

Then one of the SFs shoots Jolinar in the leg with a tranquilizing dart... and Jack knocks the gun out of her hands while she is distracted with the dart. She whallops Jack across the room... and then pulls out a grenade...

ITLOD which is such a showcase for AT's talent

Jolinar gives Sam control and Sam says that the Goa'uld is telling the truth.

Sam pleads with Jack not to leave her alone in the brig with a Goa'uld in her.

Jack leaves and Jolinar retakes contol, saying "What will it take?" to the now empty cell.

The ashrak finds Jolinar.

After the ashrak leaves, Janet and Jack rush Sam to the infirmary.

My favorite "Sam" moments....In the Line of Duty. Maybe Sam's best episode (to me). I loved the Jolinar arc and thought it introduced a whole new layer to Sam's character. The scene at the end - when she's laying in bed after Jolinar has died to save her. Just fabulous work from AT.

In the Line of Duty, cause it is one of my favourite episodes ever, let alone my favourite ep for season2. I have to say AT’s acting for this one was so good, I think even better than that for RC, and that is brilliant! My favourite scene in it though is at the very end, when she tells them that it gave up it’s life to save her. I remember when I watched that for the first time, it was just so amazing for me.

I voted for "In the Line of Duty" as first choice. Lots of character development for Sam in this one, Amanda showed Jolinaar as haulty aloof but not brutal, she came across as a desperite freedom fighter that was sorry that she had to take Sam along with her.

The sceenes in the infirmary when Sam came round and said that Jolinar had gave her life for her was very intense and tptb did good imho
in following that up with Cassie gently touching her arm and forcing Sam to turn round and look at her, Sam looked so lost and so devestated that it was heartbreaking to watch.

For the second season poll I picked In The Line of Duty as my favourite episode. I chose this because I thought Amandas portrayl of Jolinar was amazing. The bit which clinched it for me was, like someone else here has mentioned, the part where Sam comes round in the infirmary and tells Jack that the symbiote gave its life so she could live. I just loved how Amanda delivered the line and the emotion in her eyes and on her face was heartbreaking. I loved the Infirmary scene at the end too with Cassie. Amanda didn't have to say anything but you could just feel the turmoil that Sam was going through as she dealt with everything that had happened to her. When actors dont need to say a word but so much is still conveyed to the audience that's an amazing display of talent and Amanda really shone in this episode. Lucy

I loved In the Line of Duty and the whole Tok'ra arc which brought Jacob in as her dad ... wish we could have more of that again. Sigh!

[PugGate]

Why didn't Jolinar fight the ashrak? She just stood their like she didn't care that she was about to die.

And Sam knew that Cassie had naquada in her blood, so wouldn't Jolinar have avoided her?

[Tok'Ra Hostess]

Why didn't Jolinar fight the ashrak? She just stood their like she didn't care that she was about to die.

And Sam knew that Cassie had naquada in her blood, so wouldn't Jolinar have avoided her?

Given what we learn in season eight about what happens when a symbiote makes the effort to die without killing the host, I think Jolinar was probably too weak to do anything - not that her options were many, faced as she was with an armed, highly trained assassin.

As to Cassie, good question.

Perhaps since Sam herself didn't know that Cassie would be sensitive to the naq in a Goa'uld's system, she simply didn't have that thought in her mind.

Makes you wonder just how hard a Goa'uld would have to dig to get secrets from a strong mind; Shar'e was able to blind her Goa'uld from seeing SG-1 at the exit scene in Secrets, and Kinthia was able to hide her true intentions from her demon when she lured her to Cimmeria(Thor's Hammer).

Sam would've been fighting Jolinar, but also, Jolinar might have kept her brain scans surface only, to minimize the damage she'd already caused by blending with an unwilling host.

[Chaka's_Mum]

I agree that this was a stunning episode. AT's acting was fantastic (but then, when isn't it?).

Here's my thought: what do you think the chances are that Jolinar had ever encountered mouth-to-mouth resuscitation before? Probably not good. It was only developed in the last century here on earth; while it might have been developed independantly on other worlds, I'd say that there's still a very good chance she'd never encountered it, before. And the Tok'ra take hosts by entering through their mouth.

So. Jo's been on the run for some time, and is under direct assault as we speak. Her host is dying, there's nothing she can do for him. Suddenly, a completely unknown person has her mouth, open, over Jo's host's mouth, exactly if she were offering to be the next host. Jo doesn't wait for a second invitation; she takes the host ... only to discover with some shock that the new host was not in fact offering to be a host, and (assuming that Jo's a Goa'uld) is quite panicked. Jo needs a host, or she'll die; under the chaos of the attack, she doesn't have time to stop and think or talk with her new host before O'Neill drags her back through the stargate.

That's something that's always bothered me, too; though I love the shock of the moment when we all think 'Oh my sausages! Sam's been taken as a host by a Goa'uld!'. What we later learn about the Tok'ra seems to utterly contradict Jolinar's behaviour. It's reasonable to assume that Jolinar is left with no alternative - but that in itself doesn't explain why she's done something that the Tok'ra recoil from. The suggestion that there's a misconception about Sam's willingness to be a host explains that nagging discrepancy. I like it.

One other nitpick (and a silly, continuity one at that). I note that, after interviewing Jolinar in her cell, Teal'c was so stunned at the sight of a Tok'ra that when he put his swipe card through the reader to exit the brig, he put the card through upside down (it's really obvious too - the black strip is still facing outwards). Fortunately, they seem to have very intelligent doors at the SGC, because the door realised he was distracted, and that it was Teal'c - so it opened anyway...

[Beatrice Otter]

I agree that this was a stunning episode. AT's acting was fantastic (but then, when isn't it?).



That's something that's always bothered me, too; though I love the shock of the moment when we all think 'Oh my sausages! Sam's been taken as a host by a Goa'uld!'. What we later learn about the Tok'ra seems to utterly contradict Jolinar's behaviour. It's reasonable to assume that Jolinar is left with no alternative - but that in itself doesn't explain why she's done something that the Tok'ra recoil from. The suggestion that there's a misconception about Sam's willingness to be a host explains that nagging discrepancy. I like it.

One other nitpick (and a silly, continuity one at that). I note that, after interviewing Jolinar in her cell, Teal'c was so stunned at the sight of a Tok'ra that when he put his swipe card through the reader to exit the brig, he put the card through upside down (it's really obvious too - the black strip is still facing outwards). Fortunately, they seem to have very intelligent doors at the SGC, because the door realised he was distracted, and that it was Teal'c - so it opened anyway...

While that is the most famous instance in which the card was backwards ... it's not the only one. I'll leave the fun of finding them all to you.

[Chaka's_Mum]

While that is the most famous instance in which the card was backwards ... it's not the only one

That doesn't surprise me in the slightest. I'm surprised I actually spotted that one - probably only because you really couldn't miss it.

Normally, that sort of thing has to be VERY OBVIOUS INDEED for me to spot it. I'm not the world's best spotter of nit-picks.

Which means that finding the others is going to require the careful watching of lots and lots episodes over and over again...

Good.

[Beatrice Otter]

That doesn't surprise me in the slightest. I'm surprised I actually spotted that one - probably only because you really couldn't miss it.

Normally, that sort of thing has to be VERY OBVIOUS INDEED for me to spot it. I'm not the world's best spotter of nit-picks.

Which means that finding the others is going to require the careful watching of lots and lots episodes over and over again...

Good.

Well, I don't know if they're getting more careless or I'm getting more observant (or both), but they seem to do it more these days than they used to.

[Chaka's_Mum]

Well, I don't know if they're getting more careless or I'm getting more observant (or both), but they seem to do it more these days than they used to.

Either that or the swipe-card readers are telepathic...

[shipper hannah]

Either that or the swipe-card readers are telepathic...

in which case, why bother with the cards in the first place?