I'm not sure if this has been posted before, since I couldn't find anything on it. If the Asgards, Furlings, and Ancidents were all working together at one point... shouldn't the Asgard have ZPM technology? I know the Asgards can activate gate addresses that are further away. How come SG1 has only received little to zero help from the Asgard regarding Atlantis. You'd think the Asgard would be very interested in this finding. Sure SG1 had problems making it to Atlantis with the hijacking and such. How come the freaking Asgard didn't help us. Shoot, they may be even able to take out the wraith!
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Originally posted by Oma DesalaI'm not sure if this has been posted before, since I couldn't find anything on it. If the Asgards, Furlings, and Ancidents were all working together at one point... shouldn't the Asgard have ZPM technology? I know the Asgards can activate gate addresses that are further away. How come SG1 has only received little to zero help from the Asgard regarding Atlantis. You'd think the Asgard would be very interested in this finding. Sure SG1 had problems making it to Atlantis with the hijacking and such. How come the freaking Asgard didn't help us. Shoot, they may be even able to take out the wraith!
As for the ZPM technology, it would seem they dont have or utilise ZPE technology. when they were trying to blow up the Beliskner, the briefing Thor had recorded said that the Ship was powered by four neutrino ion engines, and judging by the scale on the display, each one was bigger than the prometheus, so it would seem they dont have ZPM technology, otherwise why wast so much space on massive generators like that?
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Well, the ancients developed ZPM tech well before the other 3 races evolved. When the great alliance happened, the ancinets were on their way down, and i think they knew it.
But just because you are allied with someone doesnt mean you give them everything. Also, although the asgard are WELL beyond us and super cool, they were still millions of years behind the ancients.
Maybe the asgard just didnt NEED zpm. They had their own power sources and im sure they are working fine.
Also, IMO, a ZPM is overkill in opening a wormhole to another galaxy. It just so happens that we have no ther way. The one we had was so close to depleation that opening to pegasis just killed it off. The asgard must have something that allows them to reach that level of power. It might not be as compact or long lasting, but it gets the job done.
As for Atlantis, i'm positive the asgard would be interested. for now, they might want to keep the shows apart. Or even might have a legal issue (i know, crazy, but possibly true). the writers have hinted that the asgard could show up eventually. For an IN SHOW answer. the asgard have their own problems. They pop in once in a while to help us a bit, but they are very busy and few in number. With the events that season 8 ended on, i wouldn be suprised if they show up and help more. They knew atlantis could be usefull, but that was more of a long term thing. they needed to stop the replicators NOW.
Also, if they gave us everything we wanted, it would be a pretty boring show.
I kind of ranted off there... again, so if any of my comments are scattered or unclear, ask me and ill make it better.
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Originally posted by GaterholicWell, the ancients developed ZPM tech well before the other 3 races evolved. When the great alliance happened, the ancinets were on their way down, and i think they knew it.
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Yea, most of it is just guess work, but there is a fairly stable timeline going.
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Ancients leave a few million years ago. in that time, the Asgard and other species evolve.
They come back about 10,000 years ago, have a nice allience, and then die off or ascend. We know the alliance had to be then because 100,000 years ago they barely had space travel.
Soon after the goa'uld come to power.
As for ZPMs, Not sure when they were made, but seeing how they are scattered all over, i would like to guess sometime before they left for Pegasis, seeing how the entire city is designed for their use.
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Originally posted by GaterholicYea, most of it is just guess work, but there is a fairly stable timeline going.
In breif,
Ancients leave a few million years ago. in that time, the Asgard and other species evolve.
They come back about 10,000 years ago, have a nice allience, and then die off or ascend. We know the alliance had to be then because 100,000 years ago they barely had space travel.
Soon after the goa'uld come to power.
As for ZPMs, Not sure when they were made, but seeing how they are scattered all over, i would like to guess sometime before they left for Pegasis, seeing how the entire city is designed for their use.
So here's a question... if they Ascended or died off before the Goa'uld came into power, how could they have programmed the machines that held the knowledge of the ancients (their databases) to ignore the Goa'uld and not give them the knowledge?
I think that there must have been some contact between the Ancients and the Goa'uld at some point....Oh Furlings oh Furlings... wherefore art thou Furlings???
... Anyone seen them?
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Originally posted by Rogue5So here's a question... if they Ascended or died off before the Goa'uld came into power, how could they have programmed the machines that held the knowledge of the ancients (their databases) to ignore the Goa'uld and not give them the knowledge?
I think that there must have been some contact between the Ancients and the Goa'uld at some point....
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Yea, until S8, we had just assumed that it was anti goa'uld. Now we dont know if it was that or the gene, and the writers havent told us yet. I'm sure they will just tell it inb some dialouge next year.
I dont think any goa'uld would have the gene, but the host might. So would it react to symbiots thoughts, or the host?
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Originally posted by GaterholicYea, until S8, we had just assumed that it was anti goa'uld. Now we dont know if it was that or the gene, and the writers havent told us yet. I'm sure they will just tell it inb some dialouge next year.
I dont think any goa'uld would have the gene, but the host might. So would it react to symbiots thoughts, or the host?
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Without more info it's impossible to determine exactly when the ancient's developed ZPM technology. You'll notice earlier in the series that the ancient tech we came across looked similar to Goa'uld tech and nothing like what we see in SGA. We also have to distinguish between Alteran and Lantian. We have to assume that the ancients weren't totally unified for millions of years. In the grand scheme of things we are all Tau'ri but there's differences between American, Chinese, etc.
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